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shalva97, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Mac is worse than Windows

ddkman,

From the standpoint of linux that is true.

Tillman,

Linux distros aren’t unix. Common misconception. Mac OS is certified in fact.

rottingleaf,

There have been Linux distributions certified as Unix in the past.

When people say “Unix”, they usually could care less about certification.

I’d still say that BSDs are Unix and Linux isn’t due to, say, kernels of Solaris and FreeBSD having some traces of similar architecture, while Linux is a completely different thing.

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least it’s unix

Syldon,
@Syldon@feddit.uk avatar

Mainly because Windows has more support. Software availability is the biggest draw to Windows. I would quite happily drop it in a heartbeat if Linux came close.

Hasuris,

MacOS has no proper UI scaling for example. Something windows had for… I don’t know, ever? It was never an issue for me.

For MacOS you need a little extra tool you stumble upon after hours of debugging that teels your MacOS what resolutions your display actually supports so MacOS grants you the option of your desired HiDPI resolution.

It’s stuff like this that drives me mad when dealing with the fucking Mac I am forced to use at work.

Syldon,
@Syldon@feddit.uk avatar

There is always going to be pros and cons when it comes to UI. Since Mac comes with a set size monitor, I can understand why there is little support for it. Although, as someone who needs PC glasses, it is a big remiss to not cater for disabilities.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

As in my other comment, the display menu in settings has options titled more/less space which increase or decrease the size of text and windows on screen, this is accounted for.

mac, (edited )
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

These features are for consistent stability. The more space/less space option under display is more than enough for most use cases.

Hasuris, (edited )

So trash UI scaling is a feature? Try changing your display to a non-HiDPI one. Does this look good to you?

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I’ve connected my Mac to 4k and 1440p displays and had no issues, in fact it was a pleasant experience.

Hasuris,

“I’ve had no issues therefore the issue doesn’t exist.”

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Well no I mean I’ve tried the exact issue you were complaining about and it looked great

qyron, in the main differences!!

I’ve run MATE for nearly a decade and am now running XFCE, preparing to jump into a window manager as soon as I get a machine for my exclusive use.

What does that make me?

bpcomp,

You’ve got to XFCE it MATE. It makes you a nerd like the rest of us.

riodoro1, in Cmake me!

CMake has been around forever and is flexible enough to build really complex software. You just need to pull out enough hair when you want it to do something.

Parastie, in the main differences!!
@Parastie@lemmy.world avatar

Listen, we have all moved to hyprland for the pretty animations.

covert_czar, in the main differences!!
@covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is more like desktop enviromment vs window manager users

Abnorc,

Are there people that use window managers without using desktop environments? I thought that one is a component of the other.

brisk,

Absolutely, there are a good few window managers designed to be standalone. I use AwesomeWM and i3 is very popular.

If you don’t need a full desktop environment it’s nice to have something that mostly stays out of the way.

prunerye,

I don’t think you need to go full WM-onlyism to find yourself unable to relate to Gnome users. There are probably a handful of KDE users who still use Chrome, but we usually have some shame. We’re not, like, trying to form HOAs in our neighborhoods like Gnome users are, probably.

Diplomjodler, in the main differences!!

I use Cinnamon. What does that make me?

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

It makes you spicy.

nitefox, in the main differences!!

It is accurate as you need to waste copius amount of time to get KDE to work without stutter

azerial,

Not my experience.

nitefox,

it is mine though

librechad,

We’re you using the correct drivers for your graphics card?

nitefox,

yes, I was. Also yes, it was a flagship gpu - the 6900 XT. KDE never worked for me, neither with the 1080ti nor the 6900xt… maybe it’s the AMD cpus, idk. Gnome has always been a stable experience though

pewgar_seemsimandroid, in Cmake me!

i thought this was a fortnight meme XD

vegantomato, (edited ) in No tearing support discussions for me
@vegantomato@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t have to decide between riding a car or riding a bicycle to work

black guy thinking meme

when all you use are your feet

mojo, in the main differences!!

KDE is not complicated

01adrianrdgz,
@01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

I once installed Kubuntu on my laptop and when I booted it, it was very overwhelming to see so many options, I realized it would take me two or more days, and it feels extreme, and you also need the terminal a lot. That’s why I love Ubuntu GNOME, but it’s ok if you like KDE Plasma.

azerial,

I installed a Fedora KDE Plasma spin and it enabled features on my laptop i didn’t know existed. It was nice. Windows 11 sucks. I’m happy to get rid of it.

fl42v,

Kinda depends: for me pretty much all de-s are complicated. I mean what happens when you want a de to do X? I used to go to settings/whatever, then google the problem in like 10 different ways when I inevitably don’t find it. And with wm-s you just search the wiki

Aasikki,

I thought kde users were windows users who are afraid of change.

kubica, in the main differences!!
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

Is the gnome we are talking about that one that for reaching the taskbar you have to move the mouse to the top of the screen and then immediately to the bottom every time?

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

I genuinely don’t know the last time I used the activities button, or the taskbar. To open activity view, I press super. To open programs, I search. To switch programs, I click on them in activity view

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I'm new to linux. Having things at hand is useful because I don't know the names to search or what keys to press.

omnissiah,
@omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

You do you! It’s about what works for YOU, not what others think is best.

If you’ll keep using you will cross a point where you can make your own choice anyway (and that might be sticking by to what you’ve been using)

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, the one with great score when it comes to Fitt’s law which plays a huge role in UI design. When you put it that way it seems stupid to go from one edge to the other to reach an option. In reality it’s an easiest target to hit since it’s huge and requires no precision, edge to edge scroll.

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I don't know if my screen is too big or my mouse is at a different speed. But for me it takes a lot of effort to do those big movements.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

For me as well, as I keep very low sensitivity. Am not even sure they imagined it being used like that most of the times. Am suspecting idea is to use Super key to open window preview and options are access from there. In that case it’s on average half of screen away.

But idea is there. Pretty much all OS designers implement this law in some way. Mac does it with their task bar and application menu. KDE, Windows and similar do it with theirs. However I understand your complaint that you’d have to scroll to the top then bottom, but doing so is easy.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

If you aren’t using the super key to access that menu you are using gnome wrong imo. Three finger swipe on track pad is also a great way to access the same menu.

KDE is fuckin fantastic, but it aims to replicate the windows ui and workflow. If that’s what you want then I highly recommend it over gnome. But personally I don’t think that desktop UX should be stuck in the early 2000s Redmond style. Once I changed my habits to use my windows button on the keyboard instead of moving my mouse all over hell to access the menu it’s all I ever use. Mouse is just a fallback when the other hand is busy. I try every new KDE version because I kind of hate how the gnome devs act sometimes, but I can’t get used to that workflow anymore.

I hope cosmic is great.

reflex, (edited )
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

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  • jodanlime,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    Agree to disagree I guess. I’ve tried changing the workflow in KDE to even resemble gnome and it just feels like you have to have a start menu with a taskbar. Sure, you could put that taskbar anywhere but it still operates the same as a windows 98 taskbar.

    Maybe I’m just not used to the KDE way of doing things but next year will be my 20th anniversary of using Linux. I’ve tried every desktop environment and window manager. All of them.

    I respect the KDE project but KDE makes me feel like I’m using a windows gui on top of Linux.

    hperrin, in the main differences!!

    GUIs are for the weak. Monitors are for the weak. My PC is connected to a keyboard and a printer. Hackerman

    malockin,
    @malockin@lemmy.world avatar

    You use a keyboard and a peinter? weak! I throw magnets over the memory chips and use a multi-meter. /l334

    HauntedCupcake,

    Ughhh! Filthy casuals like you using the screen on a multimeter! I bet you don’t even staple the electrodes to your nipples! Probably use clamps instead 🙄

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

    I just do the calculations in my head.

    Pantherina,

    I eat nuts and sleep in a cave

    ikidd,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    I flick toggle switches and read the buffer LEDs.

    Murdoc,
    HiddenLayer5,
    @HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Enjoy your bloat, I directly put my finger on the CPU pins to feel the electrical signals.

    uis, in Cmake me!
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Why you compile build system with build file generators?

    lolcatnip,

    If you’re compiling something huge like Chrome, having a separate compilation stage for the build files makes sense. For a normal sized project it’s overkill.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Meson does the same…

    Tillman, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

    Surprised about the comments. Mac OS is actually certified Unix whereas Linux distros, while wonderful, aren’t. I’ve never had to use windows for anything other than games in the 90’s so I can’t speak to it now. I’ve used Irix, then Linux, and now Mac professionally. I find Mac to be meh after Mojave. Perhaps BSD was the answer all along.

    bruhduh,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    If you pay enough money to people in important positions then even windows will be UNIX certified) nowadays everything is for sale

    kttnpunk, (edited ) in the main differences!!
    @kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Instant upvote because KDE is stupid underrated

    FMEEE,

    I don’t think it’s that underrated. But yah it’s a little underrated.

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