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arandomthought, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

It’s all there, just RTFM!

MacNCheezus, in Just a PSA
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

“I use Arch Linux btw”

*doesn’t know how to use vim

Pottery

ILikeBoobies,

Hey!

FQQD, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Metal Garden sounds like a 2000s metal news website

kuneho,
@kuneho@lemmy.world avatar

Metal Garden Arch - strangely works as a distro name as well I think

yournamehere,

i think it is the wrong one. it should say mental garden arch linux manual.

jaybone,

Sounds like a 90s grunge band.

Or rather a really shitty ripoff of one.

lseif, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

i assemble arch, btw

IrateAnteater, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Buffalox, (edited )

Exactly, so why are some people complaining Arch is hard?

jaybone,

There’s a pill for that.

Kusimulkku,

Should be piss easy if you followed the instructions, but people will just start connecting parts because “how hard can it be”. Then they’ll complain about how it’s broken and how the instructions were bad lol.

Ithi,

I was thinking the same thing and assumed it was a serious post until I looked at the community name.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It doesn’t look straight at all, there is a large bend.

robdor,

It is straight. There’s just a big ol mass somewhere between the paper and us causing some gravitational lensing.

confusedwiseman, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Read’s instructions: “Doesn’t seem that bad, what’s the issue?”

Sees: ‘Arch User Manual’

Notices community…

D’Oh!

palordrolap, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Makes sense to me.

My only concern is that pipe c is shown as having two different shapes: straight and slightly curved.

Based on the fact that the design requires that a and b be different, there would undoubtedly be the same situation for the four slightly curved c pipes. That is, there would need to be two "c2" pipes and two "c3" pipes in the set rather than just four more of the same c pipe.

That makes me think the diagram at the bottom was made before a decision to cut costs and/or simplify. Four regular c pipes will undoubtedly be cheaper and logistically simpler to manage for both shipping and user construction than having those two extra pipe types.

It was, of course, relabelled to match the supplied parts, but the hints of the original design still remain.

Buffalox,

Wow you are too hardcore Linux user for me to grasp what you mean. I suppose pipe is the new sound system though. But why the need for so many?
I wasn’t even aware that level of abstraction was possible when talking about Linux, not even Arch.

palordrolap, (edited )

Pipewire? It's very new to me and can't say I know much about it, not that I knew much about its predecessors either.

::: spoiler ...
(But putting the silliness hat on...)
:::

The pipes in the diagram are obviously named pipes, but they're not Linux pipes. There seems to be not only multiple types (which is disturbingly Microsoft), but often multiple by the same name (which would confuse most sane OSes, if not the insane ones too.)

It's almost like they're instances of a subroutine object all running in parallel...

KISSmyOS, (edited ) in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Just read the Wiki!

Buffalox,

Not the Wiki I expected. ;)

KISSmyOS,

Wait, which Wiki did you expect?

Public_Tumbleweed, (edited )
Buffalox, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Hopefully this simplified manual will end all complaints that Arch is too complicated.

KISSmyOS, (edited )

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Arch is in fact GNU Arch.

jaybone,

I use arch-0.0.17b-x86-amd64-noarch.rpm from the snap store.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

amd64-noarch

ಠ_ಠ

xlash123,
@xlash123@sh.itjust.works avatar

Most likely this is Aluminum+Arch

Norgur, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Idk what the issue is:

  1. Unpack
  2. Install
  3. ?
  4. It just works
TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar
  1. Magic happens
jaybone,

This used to involve profit.

whereisk, in Alpine Linux is just Busybox in a Linux Distro trenchcoat

I’ve only installed it a couple of days ago in a vm and It’s pretty good but a couple of things are a bit startling if you’re coming from debian.

Eg. The lack of niceties like the ll alias. Or The config you have to go through to allow SSH Some utils I’m used to like broot refuse to install properly even though the apk exists. Fz-find doesn’t exist in the community repository.

But you can’t argue with apk - so much better than apt or how frugal it is re resources.

Looking forward to getting stuck into it a bit more.

extant,

Have you checked your bashrc file to see if the aliases are just commented out? I feel like it comes standard with bash but not every distro enables it by default.

whereisk,

That’s the point! It doesn’t come with bash as a shell, it comes with ash - even if you install bash and switch to it, bashrc is empty. It’s a bit bare bones, which is kind of charming, until it’s annoying. Haha!

foyrkopp, in usb formatting

Anyone who hits enter on a dd command without triple-checking it gets exactly what they deserve.

key, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...
@key@lemmy.keychat.org avatar

I know the straight pipes move data between processes and curved pipes go to or from files depending on direction, but what do bolts do?

Nilz,

The bolts are libraries, if you remove them everything will collapse.

h0rnman, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

I know this is a meme /c, but for real, I bought this exact same product a while back. If this is your photo, just be careful about what you put on it. Mine lasted 2 months with a grape vine on it before it collapsed.

Source: Arch user

Patches, (edited )

I can’t think of a more appropriate time for

You had one job…

When a grape trellis collapses due to the weight of… checks notes grapes.

Lorindol,

Mine lasted a year with grape vine before catastrophic structural collapse.

deadsenator,
@deadsenator@lemmy.ca avatar

Just wanted to say we have one in our yard that has been there for almost 20-years. Previous owner left it to rot. I moved it close to some wild hops and they are covering it completely after two years. Still standing!

jaybone,

I’m really not sure how much of this thread is a joke. Wouldn’t you just use solid slats of wood?

h0rnman,

Lol. The wife wanted something decorative and liked how it looked. Caveat Emptor, and all that I suppose. I knew I was buying from a less-than-quality source

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Too many points of failure too. A solid arch or a lattice would’ve worked better.

h0rnman,

Oh for sure. I wanted to make sure OP didn’t repeat my mistake

Lorindol, (edited )

One definitely should use solid structures, metal or wooden. The damned thing cost ~10$ and I didn’t have time to build a proper support structure at the moment. I meant to use it only as a temporary solution, which I forgot when everything was fine.

The design of the arch itself wasn’t the problem. The interconnecting pipes were only 1-2mm thick, so there was no way it could possibly support the weight of a flourishing grape vine.

It was marketed as a “rose arch”. I guess it could’ve handled this purpose without any problems.

Buy wrong stuff, suffer the consequences.

48954246,

Ha, great tip. I’ll keep an eye on it

Resol, in Repurposing your laptop trans rights style 😎🏳️‍⚧️
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Mandatory programming socks

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