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Pantherina, in It does Sound stupid

I use GNU is not Unix is not Linux + Linux in a distributed form called Fedora using a display protocol called wayland on a Desktop called KDE btw.

metaStatic,

or as I've come to call it Arch

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Umm ackwschually the DE is called Plasma

Pantherina,

K Desktop Environment

I dont get this Plasma thing

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

It used to be K Desktop Environment, but it’s called Plasma since KDE became the organization behind KDE Plasma. This is because they make things other than the desktop environment, like apps such as Krita or Kdenlive, which aren’t DE specific.

Klear,

So GNUNUNL+L?

PlasticExistence, in They will all become Linux users one way or another

Your friend: “I don’t think my system works”

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“Be patient. It’s compiling.”

“Well, when can I use my computer?”

“…Tomorrow.”

SomeBoyo,

If you’re lucky

Im_old,

Gather around kids, I’ll tell you a story of the olden days. Back when it first came out I installed gentoo, and at the time the recommended process was to start from stage1. And of course I was a true believer and spent a lot of time optimizing cflags. I could get the base system running in maybe half a day, on the third try on average (I was distro hopping a lot). I used gnome at the time, and it wasn’t that bad to bring it up. Less than 24 hours. But if you wanted openoffice (there was no libreoffice at the time), oh boy, you could say goodbye to your system for a good day and then some. Assuming that it didn’t fail and then you had to change cflags, recompile half the system and try again. But man, when it finished the system would fly sooo smooth.

Flyswat,

Meanwhile enjoy your improvised heater

Octopus1348, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

macOS: Noo we broke compatibility with 64-bit and with Intel

MashedTech,

Or simply just: Too old version not supporting latest macos version.

THEY BREAK SHIT WHEN THEY RELEASE A NEW MACOS HOLY FUCK.

redcalcium,

Meanwhile, Torvalds: We do not break userspace, motherfucker!

MashedTech,

The love of Linux is great and ever expanding.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

The cookie banner was really good.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

My company is currently working through this.

The entire dev team has Macs. Most have Intels. Many are on M1. Some are on M2.

Security/IT teams feel the pain, dealing with all sorts of weird things. And their solution lately is saying “fuck it” and giving the dev a M2. Which is a bandaid as what if M3 and onwards continues to break something?

Fortunately, my team builds software and runs everything through docker.

MashedTech,

I do the same. Docker buildx to the rescue.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not like this came out of the blue. The PowerPC to Intel transition was recent enough that it’s still fully documented on the web with forum posts by frustrated users. It’s Apple. Their attitude has always been that users have to deal with it.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

And yet they have a reputation for being easy to use.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

And yet they have a reputation for being easy to use.

That’s Apple brainwashing. Anyone who ever tried to offer remote support via TeamViewer probably knows how Mac users then fail to grant screen recording and input permissions to TeamViewer. Before they do that on their own, they can get any remote support.

nixcamic,

Mac: can you install this 10 year old program: no.

bingbong,

Me: can you…

Mac: No

Crack0n7uesday,

Are they doing full blown ARM processor’s now? I thought they still had enough devices less than three years old that still used Intel because of the COVID manufacturing delays.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

The last Intel device was the MacPro, last year. Otherwise, they basically went 100% Arm within a year or so. A very quick and complete changeover.

Not just cpu, but 100% Apple. I think there was a singular, last Intel modem?usb? chip leftover that’s been replaced now.

ahornsirup, (edited )
@ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz avatar

As far as I know they still support some of their old Intel lineup, but it’s all ARM for new devices now.

charliespider, (edited )

More like:

Can you install this 25 year old program?

Mac OS: LOL! Buy a new laptop!

Somewhereunknown7351,
@Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

Me: can you run this cool game I found

Mac: no

fl42v, (edited ) in Wine being great
  • Word? Markdown/((Xe)La)TeX!
  • PowerPoint? Beamer!
  • Excel? Well, fuck this; any proper programming language does the job waaaaay better;
  • Whatever their crappy attempt at db-s was called? Literally any non-crappy dbms.
BeigeAgenda, (edited )
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

The (libre) office suite is geared towards business and school stuff, they are far from perfect but does 90% of what people need.

Word/LibreOffice Writer

Have their uses, just keep the document below like 50 pages.
LaTeX is great for academic papers and when you need the document to look crisp!
And you are right about Markdown it’s great for many documents.

Excel/Calc

Spreadsheets are great for data entry and some calculations especially financial stuff. You can’t do that as easily inside a source file.

PowerPoint, you are probably right about beamer?

Access

Utter garbage “database” maybe if you need something to keep your record collection? If you know the basics of relational databases and a bit of SQL any proper DB is soo much better.

fl42v,

So, regarding md & beamer: I’m kinda into that “less is more” mindset when it comes to every day -ish writing. Like yeah, you can spend a few hrs formatting the info a certain way, but if that’s not a typography thingy - who’s really going to care how the stuff is aligned or whether it’s divided into 100500 columns?

Md has just enough features to structure the text, and when you need to share, you just compile the doc into PDF which is at least supposed to look the same everywhere. Basically the same for beamer, although you can shove animations in there (right, cause why tf shouldn’t PDF support animations after all)

Rant over 🤣

desconectado,

Beamer has a very high steep learning curve, especially when you just want a few slides to show preliminary results. In PowerPoint you literally drag the image, resize, and that’s it.

Also I feel that beamer pushes the user towards the “bullet point” presentation, which sometimes can be very boring.

For documents, I love latex, but I actually prefer LibreOffice or onlyoffice when it comes to presentations.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

LaTeX is shit at this point. Check out github.com/typst/typst. I cannot go back to the awful syntax in a powerful LuaLaTeX.

wieson,

Do you pronounce it “typist”, “typeset” or “type es ti”?

crystal,

Why not just pronounce it “typst”? (like “types” with a “t” at the end)

wieson,

Yay English got its second person singular conjugation back :)

I type Thou typst She typeth

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

Typ as in type and st as in street. One syllable with many consonants.

It’s still new and I didn’t ask authors this question and doc doesn’t talk about it either.

fl42v,

Hm, looks somewhat less painful to type. Otherwise, needs further investigation; tnx!

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

It’s in the beta, but actively being developed. You can do a lot of stuff already, but a lot of stuff is either not implemented or janky. Overall I can cope with that. If you want to add something, just know how to write in Rust.

Pantherina,

Excel, not true. I mean libreoffice calc just works for a lot but not for easy basic graphs. And it does not do the job better at graphically ebabling users to do data analysis

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Wait what’s the problem with graphs? I use it for basic graphs all the time.

Pantherina,

Weird. For me some graphs didnt work and manipulating variables was veeery unintuitive (like “this is x” “this is y” “this is the scale”

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

My use cases were pretty simple so maybe you ran into issues with using more features idk.

fl42v,

Python and matplotlib aren’t hard… Plus you get pandas, numpy, and so on. Alternatively, R studio does such stuff ootb, as far as I remember

Idk, excel always seemed unnecessarily limiting and complicated to me compared to proper programming languages. Although that may be because I was taught cpp before this crap.

Pantherina, in They’re in no position to complain

People telling you “I would like to use a Mac so much but I need Windows”. Well fuck you Tiffany I dont care

Octopus1348, (edited ) in So sad when it happens

I have a pretty good streak without Windows, I use macOS and Linux, and everything I need is available. If not, I can use Wine, and it works. And Proton is just amazing, the number of games you can play with it without ONE SINGLE PROBLEM is just insane.

nogrub,

sadly my count will stay at zero because my work laoptop has windows 10 on it

Pantherina, in Unix < GNULinux < GNUHurd

Could someone explain hurd to me? Who develops it, what makes it different? Is it a microkernel or unikernel?

BigBlackCockroach, (edited )
@BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world avatar
ichmagrum, in Distros bad

Couldn’t be more wrong for me, lol

Also, I feel like instant coffee should be represented - it’s one of the most common preparation methods and it’s easy to dunk on.

Katzastrophe,
@Katzastrophe@feddit.de avatar

Instant Coffee is Windows

Late2TheParty,
@Late2TheParty@lemmy.world avatar

🤣🤣🤣

Kusimulkku,

instant coffee

Eww

ichmagrum, (edited )

Some instant coffee is just fine if you add milk. IMO it’s better than the cheap filter coffee that a lot of people I know drink.

Kusimulkku,

I’m gonna report this as hate speech

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

And what would that be? A live usb?

ichmagrum,

Good idea! Maybe more specifically a live usb distro, like Puppy, Knoppix etc?

Pantherina,

ChromeOS is coffee from Starbucks or something bad

onion, (edited )
Pantherina, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

<span style="color:#323232;">archinstall
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># btrfs
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># user account in wheel
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># install plasma-meta flatpak podman distrobox fish tmux konsole 
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># I guess thats it?
</span><span style="color:#323232;">su $USERNAME &amp;&amp; systemctl enable --now sddm
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sudo sddm
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># login
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># Open Discover, install apps from Flathub
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># install stuff from Arch repos
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># install Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora packages with a fitting Distrobox, maybe root, to avoid weird AUR stuff breaking your system
</span>

I literally never used Arch and install took not very long after finding out what a chroot is and how to reboot from that.

_cnt0,

archinstall

“It wasn’t hard in easy mode!”

joyjoy, in They will all become Linux users one way or another

I’m a sneaky fox. sneaked in your house, sat on your couch, ate your pasta, installed Gentoo.

pat277,

OK, thanks. Can you do it to my intel atom tablet too? I have mac & cheese

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just how long were you there?

hansl,

You’re assuming he installed Gentoo successfully.

rostby,

You think he’s done?

Octopus1348, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

As a macOS user I don’t agree.

Centaur,
bfg9k,
@bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

As a carrot I half-agree.

xia,

Me: “ls ~/Downloads”, mac-gui: Would you like to give “Terminal” access to the “Downloads” folder?

adrian783,

click yes when this happens. this one is a freebie.

custard_swollower,

I really like it, and I miss it on Linux. On Linux, I have to trust that each and every sh/bash script, package install script, or some stuff you download from internet are actually safe and don’t access your private stuff. On mac I get the prompt when some software needs to access a specific folder.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

Ok, it’s true that you have to spend 15 mins after setting up to “install developer tools”, and remove some safety rails. However, the mac doesn’t prevent you from doing that, and doesn’t really even try to make it hard (if you’ve ever touched a terminal before). Once it’s set up, you’re good to go…

GeniusIsme,

Depends on what you are doing. My company was using clang for c++ compilation and it was a drag to make all this clicks for each .so every is update. And there is no way to automate the process. And those occasional compatibility breaks didn’t help either.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

what do you mean? clang is a command line tool, can’t you write some cmake and a bash script to automate the build process? That’s what I always do when I writing any C++ that needs to be compiled/updated fairly regularly.

GeniusIsme,

It has nothing to do with clang being command line. It consists of many binaries, all of them untrusted. Any time new dynamic lib is loaded Mac stops the process and complains. Then you need to do manual stuff, as you can’t automatically trust a binary, for obvious reasons. This happened almost two years ago, maybe clang got apple certificates or some shit to combat the issue. But my point was that every OS update on Mac brings annoying issues for developers.

CapeWearingAeroplane, (edited )

I have to admit, I’ve never touched the kind of issue where I need to load a bunch of binaries I can’t automatically trust as part of a build process, so I won’t speak on that.

On the part about OS updates being a PITA, yes: I’ll admit that I offset updating the macOS major version for as long as possible. As long as my major version is maintained/get’s security updates, and the newer versions are backwards compatible enough that I can compile stuff for them without any hassle, I’ll stay on macOS 13. Judging by historical data, that means I have about two more years before I might need to spend an hour or two fixing up stuff that bugs out with the eventual major update.

rtxn, (edited ) in Distros bad

Windows user: a stovetop percolator because they’ve had it forever and the coffee it makes is perfectly fine!

(Narrator voice: it’s not perfectly fine, the coffee is bitter and burned).

zacher_glachl, in Distros bad

Arch user should be an aeropress: people can’t seem to shut the hell up about how great it supposedly is

Pantherina,

I think it is pretty great tbh, just havent tried it yet as it is very manual

Prunebutt,

Just pretend it’s a V60.

I brew with a V60, btw.

TheGrandNagus,

I don’t know shit about coffee, so I’m assuming you mean you make your coffee with a mid-size Volvo estate car. Pretty impressive.

Prunebutt,

Most people can’t appreciate the faint aroma of gasoline. ☕

manwichmakesameal,

As a Volvo fan, that was my first thought too.

prettybunnys, (edited )

V60 user here.

MBP user tho

ccdfa,

V60 user here

On arch btw

OKRainbowKid,

I use both Aeropress and an arch based distro, btw.

SexualPolytope, (edited )
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Lol. Checks out for me. Have an Aeropress, and use Arch (btw). I also have an espresso machine though, but never really touched Gentoo.

Amaltheamannen,

I have an aeropress and run arch haha

badbytes,

I use Arch, and let me tell you it’s great.

dalekcaan,

I have an aeropress. I have yet to take the time to figure out how to use my aeropress.

barsoap,

Well it says 80C water up to IIRC the first line but are you really sure about that? Also what about your grind settings?

gondezee,

I refuse to accept the 80c recommendation from the manual

Cowbee,

100c water, 12g coffee per 200g water, pour 50g water into press then wait 30sec, stir, add the rest, add the press so the water doesnt flow, wait 2 more minutes then press down until hiss.

Easy peasy.

laurelraven,

Stopping when you hear the hiss is important, if you don’t you’ll press the bitter nasty part into your coffee

barsoap,

That’s a myth watch some James Hoffmann.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@lemmy.world avatar

The true arch experience.

andrew,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I use areopress btw

cm0002,

It’s aeropress, did you even read the wiki???

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I use areolapress btw ouch

cypherpunks, in Distros bad
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
aniki,

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  • SexualPolytope, (edited )
    @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It’s very easy to clean and travel with, though. But yeah, it’s very close. Especially if you use a metallic mesh.

    Kusimulkku,

    Indeed

    barsoap,

    Not even close. French presses are way larger, holding a can instead of a mug, generally glass, and are pure immersion brewers while aeropresses are immersion/infusion hybrids, giving you way more options. The grind sizes you use are also vastly different: French press grind is coarse to survive the long immersion, while people generally grind for aeropress in between filter coffee and espresso fineness – roughly what supermarkets sell as espresso fine (which it isn’t, espresso fine grind is basically the consistency of talcum powder and spoils within minutes).

    And while it wouldn’t be right to claim that you can use them to make actual espresso you can use them to make concentrates that come darn close, definitely appropriate for a cappuccino, or tiramisu. You really don’t want to make concentrates with immersion.

    Oh and by default aeropresses use paper filters, while French presses use sieves. Preferences differ but as you can get sieves for the aeropress again you have more options.

    In short, it’s the brewer for someone who cares about coffee, probably has a (hand) grinder (and a mere chestnut at that), avoids buying any supermarket coffee and knows a source of proper but non-fancy beans, but doesn’t really want to go full nerd about it. Also, isn’t a hipster paying through their nose to get a Hario filter holder and papers in a Melitta region (or the opposite), or gets a ceramic filter holder which only means you have to heat it up… no upsides. Speaking of nerds.

    In even shorter, it’s at a very very solid performance vs. fuss sweetspot. At least if you’re making a mug of coffee, if you need to supply a table full of guests… honestly if I had to do it right now I’d throw grinds and water into a pot, wait a bit, then filter the whole thing through an ordinary kitchen sieve followed by an ordinary paper filter holder, and hope for the best.

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  • barsoap,

    Tea is way more complicated. Wanna hear about my Yixing pot?

    andrew, (edited ) in Distros bad
    @andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

    I feel like arch is the espresso machine and Gentoo is a pile of espresso machine parts.

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