ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

And I still using email

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

very unsecure mostly

pizzawithdirt,

It’s a web app, you don’t really need a native application for it.

InFerNo,

I just use discord via the browser. Why would I allow it to harvest my data as an app?

Chewy7324,

Because the desktop app works without having your phone around, if I remember correctly. It’s a relatively recent feature.

InFerNo,

Why do you need your phone around for the web version?

Chewy7324,

The web version isn’t a standalone client like Signal, which registers as an additional device with e2e. WhatsApp web communicates with the WhatsApp app, so it doesn’t work if the phone isn’t connected to the internet (in early versions it had to be the same network, if I remember correctly).

I believe WA introduced a feature which allowed the desktop app to function standalone like Signal. Signal Desktop adds a second device with it’s own keys, so contacts send automatically messages to two devices. I’m not sure if it works the same for WA, and if they even have the feature. I don’t have a compatible desktop.

InFerNo,

I never mentioned whatsapp, I don’t use it

Chewy7324,

Oopsie. Seems like I missed discord in your comment. I thought you were talking about WhatsApp.

Flax_vert,

Push to talk… And I think that’s literally it 😂

Amends1782,

They have to do it on fucking purpose right? Only allow keybinds so you have to get the client so they can collect user data

Flax_vert,

No, it’s probably because websites running in Chrome might lack the ability to detect keystrokes in the background. If they did, that’s a very very concerning security risk.

If they wanted to force you, they’d just disable the web app lmao

Amends1782,

Fair enough

shea,

i bet you could find some little tool to replace that easily. sucks though

Flax_vert,

It makes sense. Websites in a browser shouldn’t be able to detect keystrokes outside of the tab

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

If you use JACK audio, then you can make it Unix-way. Or use hardware PTT.

EDIT: or just mute/unmute mic system-wide

lastweakness,

The Windows-only app is way better. You can make calls for example.

Mio,

Even if it exists, then it does not have to be good. Look at Microsoft Teams.

WindowsEnjoyer,
gunpachi,

I also hate it but unfortunately have to use it for work.

somenonewho,

It’s a stopgap but Teams for Linux at least gives you Wayland support, choice of seperate window sharing and background filters

WindowsEnjoyer,

Even if you look at Windows native version - it’s still trash. The chat client is disgusting bad.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I used browser when I had to use it

camelbeard,

They made it basically unusable with Firefox, so unless you also want to install Edge it really sucks

euphoric_cat,
@euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

forgive my ignorance, I also hated teams when I had to first use it, but now other than it being a microsoft and probably data hungry app, what’s bad about it?

saze,

It has indeed improved a lot over the last 2 years or so and is now actually quite a mature product, as much as I hate to admit that about an MS product. My biggest gripes with it are its refusal to acknowledge you may be using multiple devices (to this day) and MS’s insistence that a person only do one thing at one time (can’t edit calendar items while checking a chat, for example). Their Linux app is a joke and I’m better off running it from Chrome. The phone app makes the WiFi interface crash constantly and I have to run it off 4G; it is the only app I have this issue with.

Which brings me to another gripe. Teams documentation insists that screen sharing on Linux is not supported, and sure enough you cannot see the option for it while on a call with someone. However if you are in a meeting (with however many people), the option magically appears and works absolutely perfectly.

euphoric_cat, (edited )
@euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

finally, a decent response.

what do you mean by the multiple devices thing? also my experience has been mostly fine on the linux app, granted I’ve never been in a teams call, so it makes sense.

saze,

Apologies for the late reply, still getting a hang of this!

By multiple devices issues I meant the following. Sometimes for example, I am on a Teams call on my phone but want to use my laptop to view screensharing stuff and join the call there too (without hanging up the phone). Teams will insist that my audio switch over to the laptop too and I have to manually disable the audio on the laptop and re-enable it on the phone. It shocks me that such a mature offering from a massive corporation still cannot figure out that I may want a screenshare/audio split onto two devices and ask me at least. Another smaller nag, if I want audio only on the phone, it will constantly bug me to tell me the incoming video is switched off. I kind of understand this however, I get that they want to let the average user know why there is no incoming video, but surely there ought to be a “leave me alone” setting for this.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

skype > teams

dan,
@dan@sffa.community avatar

Every damn thing?

Im_old,

It’s so horribly slow and resource hungry. It sucks a ton of memory, a lot of cpu. Every time I start a video call the cpu fan goes brrrr

lastweakness,

That’s just Teams on every platform though?

Im_old,

Absolutely!

mayonaise_met, (edited )

No separate tabs to do various things at once. You can pop out chats and calls, but that’s about it.

It also struggles to connect with the right audio device everytime.

euphoric_cat,
@euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

theres the open in app button I guess. I wouldn’t want to open any kind of document in the built in one because its so slow to load

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“best i can do is a chromium only web app”

Dfy, (edited )

Works in Firefox for me

Desistance,

Stop using Facebook products

RealPuyo,

I’m tired of seeing it

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

VIBER HAS A LINUX VERSION?!?!

also android is kinda linux

Ziglin,

But also arm

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

And leg

mightyfoolish,

Facebook couldn’t bother making a proper Android app for years. Now you want them to make Linux apps? The likelihood is small…

dan,
@dan@sffa.community avatar

Who uses WhatsApp anyway?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Teachers and parents in Russia

Echrichor,

Most people?

Ziglin,

Unfortunately many of my friends that don’t use Signal.

flying_sheep,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

Basically everyone in Germany.

ADTJ,

Most people in Europe

clot27,
@clot27@lemm.ee avatar

telegram GOAT

JCreazy,

Why are we installing Whatsapp to begin with?

nixcamic,

Where I live everything is on WhatsApp. You want to get ahold of a business: WhatsApp, friends organizing a party: WhatsApp, want to check the traffic: WhatsApp.

MareOfNights,

Same here. Just check out of society and you’re good (:

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Discord on Linux kinda sucks, though. It’s more resource demanding than the Windows version and I can’t even stream with audio.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

I just use Discord from my browser where it’s at least sandboxed and doesn’t have access to my filesystem.

Since it’s an electron app anyway it’s basically the same as the app.

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

I use it in the browser on Linux and it works fine. Everything works. They’re electron app is poorly deployed.

lastweakness,

Nope, you still can’t stream a window with audio

Amends1782,

I honeslty haven’t had any issues with it. But I’m sire others are. I feel like that’s the biggest challenge since there’s a ton of distros and architectures

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