dream_weasel, (edited )

“from scratch”

It’s like a page worth of instructions you can follow verbatim excluding bootloader and network. If you watch one video of someone doing it to fill those gaps there is nothing to it.

Source: I watched Kai Hendry speed install arch, bookmarked the video and all my machines are now arch “from scratch” in 10 minutes or less of actual keyboard time.

Sanyanov,

Mental Outlaw also has the great guide explaining the install step-by-step in a great detail

Jumuta,

except he doesn’t talk about the difference in bootloader installation for uefi

Sanyanov, (edited )

Touche

exu,

I don’t remember the channel anymore, but there’s one guy constantly updating various setups. Like Arch with encryption, Arch with BTRFS, etc. I started with one of those videos and wrote my own step by step guide. Now I’m just following my own guide whenever I install Arch.

victorz,

I wouldn’t dare do that. If my own guide becomes outdated I’d have wasted time and effort. But to each their own. 👍

kuberoot,

I think calling it “a page worth” is understating it somewhat, especially if you want a full install to actually use stuff. In reality, when installing at first, you’ll be finding stuff you missed for a while, like hardware video decoding.

Also, are you referring to just the direct instructions for one choice? Because to me, the point of installing manually is educating yourself on the choices, choosing one that suits you, and understanding what you’re doing to set it up. Of course, when you’re doing subsequent installs, you already know that stuff - but at that point you might just want to write an install script instead of running them manually.

768,

Trve Arch users don’t remember their install process.

zurchpet,
@zurchpet@lemmy.ml avatar

I even ported an install once from one device to another just by copying the data and installing the bootloader.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I only remember how long it takes

victorz,

Can confirm. Install once and it lives forever until the hardware dies or is replaced.

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??

NegativeInf,

The room is in shambles.

BloodSlut,

The room full of vampires?

Squid,

I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

One of many. Merobiba is still one of my faves.

Bad_Rats,

Sorry

growsomethinggood,

SORRY

Timecircleline,

And everytime we kiss

11181514,

They’re just like us

SpaceNoodle,

We’ve all got 'em

Tangent5280,

I get this feeling

Tangent5280,

And everytime we touch

TimeSquirrel, (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Yo Arch users. Try daily driving Linux From Scratch. I dare ya. Let's see what you're really made of.

DocMcStuffin,
@DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world avatar
NominatedNemesis,

Endeavour Os was the best thing I ever used. Easy to install, out of box is minimal but sufficient. I traded my Linux Mint to be able to customize my workflow, look and feel.

yamapikariya,
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

I used it for a while too before I learned about archinstall. eOS has a great community though. I use their forum to look for answers often

xenoclast,

Is that Bobby Hill?!

yamapikariya,
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

Yes

wunami,
@wunami@lemmy.world avatar
kpw,

Thank you I tried to figure out how one could recognize Bobby Hill in this drawing.

xenoclast,

Seeing that face “in the wild” blew my damn mind.

eruchitanda,
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

I never had success with archinstall, just the regular installation.

It’s kinda weird, actually.

resketreke,
@resketreke@kbin.social avatar

I use EndeavourOS and it works without issues.

NominatedNemesis,

Jeee EOS gang!

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

I was going through some stuff and installing Arch from scratch was the only way I could feel anything at all.

Every now and then I see that laptop and think "I should keep going and install those power management scripts ". Then I think “nah”.

xarexyouxmadx,

I don’t use Arch but if I did id probably go with archinstall. I don’t see the point in going from scratch unless you absolutely need to. I could care less about bragging rights for installing an operating system lol.

Sanyanov, (edited )

I just don’t bother going for archinstall when regular installation “from scratch” takes 5 minutes (or 15, if you do it the first time). It is not scary and extremely simple, contrary to memes. Besides, it makes you understand the processes involved.

Archinstall is just a little, nice helper to shorten and simplify installation even more.

traches,

It’s not about bragging rights, all you do is follow instructions. I just do it that way because I can set everything up exactly how I like it

people_are_cute, (edited )
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You mean “couldn’t care less”. The way you’ve written it means that you do care a bit since you “could care less”.

hswolf,
@hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

built as in “made the os”? If so, then yes they probably cried a lot those damn wizards

CCF_100,

I still install manually just out of habit

MalReynolds,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

NixOS is the new Arch… (cat, meet pigeons) Unfortunately It doesn’t have as much basic training as Arch did (which archinstall obviates, not that I think this is a bad thing, it’s time is here), which did so much to improve community. Unfortunately NixOS’s doco is woeful, while ArchWiki is gold standard.

I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily (although I do have a T440p with 3 boot drives not doing much, hmm)…

Shareni,

NixOS is the new Arch…

Yeah nah, arch has an actual use case for normal users - it’s just the same old Linux with the most recent packages.

Nix and guix simply don’t work as distros for regular people. They’re made for scientific and corporate applications. They add a huge amount of complexity in order to solve problems you don’t have.

Nixos is like rust: hyped into the stratosphere by people who don’t use it

I say this as an ex Arch type who moved to Fedora, now ublue-kinoite, waiting for Nix to mature enough to daily

I’m running guix in fedora as a PM. You get most of the benefits, and can still use other PM’s like npm without crying for a week first. Although imo guix works better in that scenario since you can just “guix install X” and then use X like any other binary.

PumpkinEscobar,

The new / rewritten arch install is fantastic. The btrfs layout, with encryption, really nice experience and end result.

Tesla,

You are becoming one punch man??

Twelve20two,
AVincentInSpace, (edited )

All that and we don’t find out who she was drawing?

EDIT: i might be dumb

Twelve20two,
AVincentInSpace,

I misinterpreted the “IT’S NOT” at the very end to be coming from the artist :P

Twelve20two,

Oh, I think that’s one of the other artists who was incredulous that his partner managed to draw Bobby so poorly 😅

Meatballs,

Why are you commenting on 4 week old posts

Twelve20two,

I realized I missed replying to them and the comment was just hanging there in my inbox

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