NoFun4You,

Friend: *has computer problems

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

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NoFun4You,

A lot of my friends are idiots lol

gorkur,

All of my computer problems went away after switching to Linux, so I’d say it’s solid advice.

Granted, I do have computer problems, they’re just different 🐧

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

The difference is that with Linux, it’s possible to become smart enough to fix all the issues. Windows is designed in such a way that there usually isn’t a way to fix its problems to avoid format and reinstalls no matter how much you know.

systemglitch,

Lol, Linux users are funny.

Anticorp,

I do use Linux, and I’m usually glad about it, but I wasted an hour last night trying to figure out how to change my microphone port to a subwoofer port, and never did solve the problem. Linux is awesome, but sometimes basic stuff is ridiculously difficult or impossible.

deadly4u,

Does the physical port actually have that capability? My motherboard has a lot of audio ports but inputs cannot be outputs and vice versa

Crashumbc,

Probably not. Unless it’s bi directional combined port. But remapping audio ports like that seems like an extremely niche case I find support for it very rare in any case.

Anticorp,

Yes, and it’s trivial to retask with the AC97 HD Audio program in Windows, but I couldn’t find an equivalent program for Linux.

moomoomoo309,
@moomoomoo309@programming.dev avatar

If you’re using pipewire, try XDAJackRetask, I use it for that purpose.

Anticorp,

Thanks, I’ll give it a shot.

valveman,

Well, as a Linux user myself, I used to do this kind of thing when I was getting started and was too damn hyped about FOSS and everything. Now, I simply ask people what they want from a computer and how much are they invested into tech.

Do you want things to be as simple as possible? Use Mac or Windows.

Do you want to learn more about how things work under the hood? Use Linux.

Gaming? Use Windows (and yes, although I’m a proud Proton user, some games just won’t work, like Valorant and PUBG).

Flying_Hellfish, (edited )

Gaming? Use Windows (and yes, although I’m a proud Proton user, some games just won’t work, like Valorant and PUBG).

I love proton on my steamdeck, and I’d like to try to go linux vs having to stay on win10 with no updates on my gaming computer. But outside of some games not working, a lot of hardware/accessories don’t have official support either. As far as I can tell, goxlr, streamdeck, and other hardware/software I use daily, have no official support, which for items I use that often makes it pretty much a non-starter on migrating.

Huschke,
Flying_Hellfish,

Thank you. I saw there is a community goxlr project on github as well. For me, not having the official support is frustrating. I spend a lot of time messing around with community projects for my homelab. I don’t want that effort transferred over to my daily driver.

What I’m really waiting for is a decent/cost effective AMD laptop I can scoop up to put linux on.

Million,

Yeah linux handles many games fine with proton and stuff, but there are too much things you give up.

Razer mouse with multiple side buttons? No GUI for setting that up, download some other hotkey software and make a custom profile on that. Open razer for RGB control.

Corsair headphones? No software, not able to get task bar icon about battery level.

Sometimes play racing games? Too bad there is no drivers for your wheel, except one that was made by some guy 5 years ago that got 60% of the features working, and to change settings you have to edit text files.

A new multiplayer game comes out that doesnt work on linux and all your friends are playing? Soon you find yourself just booting straight to windows instead of sometimes hopping on windows to play some game.

Connect a ps4 controller and linux sets it as default audio device and there is no GUI option to disable that, just gotta switch back when connecting the controller.

Boot to OS and open steam, no games are installed? Oh right you need to go mount the drive first. Watch a 10 minute youtube video where some dude explains how to auto mount drives.

Want to create a bootable windows USB and the tool that came with the OS tells you the usb stick is in use and that it needs to be unmounted, do that and then it tells you there is no usb there, because ya unmount it. Try another software but it wont select the iso file. Try google for help, top answer is “borrow your friends windows computer”

I like linux and learned a lot when using it, and will use it in the future on machines that dont need anything extra. But for my habits it just felt silly to be there, and constantly switch back to play games, or stay on linux and have a worse experience doing something, like driving games.

I am also real tech savy person and can overcome most of these hurdles, but most of my friends would never be able to overcome some of these things. I also found that many questions about linux on some forums are answered with stuff like “why on earth do you want that? Just dont do that or do something else” and that was kind of a bummer as well.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

I think that your priorities are horrible. If the things you listed are enough to get you to abandon GNU/Linux, then FOSS might really not be for you. Also, you describe yourself as tech savvy, but I find that doubtful judging from the experiences you recounted and the non-technical way in which you write.

dotMonkey,

Those sound like real problems anyone could experience to me whether you’re tech savvy or not. Unsupported devices and software

Million,

I dont really understand what you mean about my priorities being horrible. My priority is for my PC to do what i then and there need it to do, if it is to display my headset battery lever or create bootable usb media.

And I didnt say abandon, I said i like linux and will use it.

I told you that i am tech savvy, but instead of taking my word you decipher my message and say it is the opposite?

I am not the god of tech, but if a person who writes their own wifi drivers is 10 on the scale, and my father who can barely use a non smart phone is 1, i am a solid 8 on the tech savvy scale.

Slay queen.

JCreazy,

I saw the thumbnail and thought the image was of a transistor.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Same! Thought of some kind of SMD chip!

DudeDudenson,

It’s all fun and games until you try to use Linux and spend 3 months trying to figure out how to do something like setting up digital 5.1 audio or how to get your graphics drivers to actually work properly

ganoo,
@ganoo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Took you 3 months to type “sudo apt install nvidia”?

LordKitsuna, (edited )

I think you mean sudo pacman -Syu mesa

Zeroxxx,

And this is why average joes hates Linux and its communities.

Your elitist attitude is off the chart dude.

ulterno, (edited )
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

It’s only natural, really. When you get used to putting the brainpower into learning it as if it were breakfast, you feel frustrated when someone comes around putting a tenth of the effort and acting like the world is weighing on them. Then you tend to forget that most people choose something else to put that effort into, same as they forget that you chose this.

DudeDudenson,

Yeah because the Nvidia drivers work totally fine and have no issues whatsoever

grue,

Tell me you haven’t tried to use Linux in a decade without telling me you haven’t tried to use Linux in a decade.

DudeDudenson,

I use it both for my home teather PC and for my work PC and I consistently run into those kind of issues

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Not plausible. You are either lying or lack the skill and experience for handling your system, the latter of which would be okay if you were to admit it.

DudeDudenson, (edited )

“git gud”, the exact rhetoric that causes people to stay away from Linux and in the hands of Microsoft despite them making their products worse year over year

chicken,

“My Linux computer has problems!”

“Just compile from source”

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

It failed compiling

“Just make your own OS”

stark,

I use Arch by the way

greenmarty,

😅 That’s what i thought as well but it also depends on distro and their community. I’ve never got such a support from MS or Google as i did from these non payer dudes who do it in their free time.

HRDS_654,

Not to be that guy, but this is actually the most useless advice ever for someone who genuinely has a computer problem. Like, I like Linux as much as the next person, but asking someone to learn a whole ass OS from scratch on the OFF CHANCE it will fix their issue is not great.

lseif,

i agree, but when they keep complaining about ‘file explorer is too slow’, ‘popups/ads are so annoying’, ‘cant open .tar.gz’, you can see that this all comes from the same underlying outdated system. i know all these problems can be solved in windows, but more will always appear

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

But in reality, you really only recommend it to strangers. If you recommend any piece of tech to someone you know, you iust changed your status to tech support.

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

Tech support has been my status since I was 12. Honestly, I enjoy being able to explain stuff like this.

Evil_Shrubbery,

Yeah, same, stuff like why is Linux on my computer now, why are ads blocked, where is Chrome, etc - listen, I’m the only tech support you have, you get what you get, and you get FOSS.

Honestly it worked fairly perfectly for me over the decades.

butt_mountain_69420,

Exactly. If someone recommends Linux to a person in real life, they deserve what’s coming to them.

“IF I’M ALREADY DOING SUDO WHY IS IT PROHIBITED?” “THE ETC FOLDER? WHICH ONE?”

LordKitsuna,

Me being tech support is WHY i said that. I told my family either use Linux or leave me alone. Half of them let me install Linux and I’ve not needed to do anything in years. They are basic users aka open chrome and nothing else and unlike windows Linux doesn’t constantly kill itself over time.

I occasionally ssh in to make sure updates are still working and once to setup a new printer remotely but that’s it

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

“Now I have 99 problems.”

Tischkante,

This is just anecdotal, but if they’re normal users and have a bit of money, advise them to get a mac. If not, they don’t need your help.

Adalast,

My wife was telling me that she saw an article about Microsoft supposedly planning to add a “small” banner for advertisements to the desktop on Windows and the essence of this meme was my precise response.

Treczoks,

Just today, just today…

My daughter wanted to do something trivial with windows, but did not know how. Online help referred to a button that did not exist in the application. I know at least three ways to accomplish the same action on Linux, and I know they just work.

AlmightySnoo,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Me when someone’s Ubuntu install reaches EOL: just install Arch

Mandy,

*99% of Lemmy

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