CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Aren’t we all tired of this meme by now? Especially in this new age of Steam deck?

Seems a bit like trolling at this point.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Anti cheat is the biggest obstacle now, can’t overcome that and if you and your friends enjoy playing together on a game that doesn’t support it then you’re SoL. Unfortunately only 75% or so of the games my friend group plays are compatible.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Anti cheat is the biggest obstacle now, can’t overcome that and if you and your friends enjoy playing together on a game that doesn’t support it then you’re SoL.

The EAS anti-cheat is on Linux now too, so the small minority of games that require anti-cheat tech on Linux is getting even smaller; it’s heading in the right direction.

But my point is more towards the fact that we’re trying to apply memes to cover 100% of something when it’s really covering 1% of something.

It gets tiring/trolling after a while, especially with it’s repetitiveness.

scrub,

Same thing for me on Windows. Technology is just angering.

Dave,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Now you mention it, I have spend so many hours on Windows trying to get the damn game to work. Trying to hide run Windows games on Linux, if it doesn’t work immedietly and I can’t find easy tweaks to fix it then I just assume it doesn’t work on Linux. But when a Windows game doesn’t work on Windows, I will spent hours making it work because I know it should!

rbits,

Everyone in the comments: “Actually I don’t have the same problems so this is wrong”

asexualchangeling,

“I don’t have the same problems anymore so this is outdated”

Ftfy

rbits, (edited )

Still applies though. “Oh but it used to be worse”

asexualchangeling,

Obviously I can’t speak for everyone, but personally speaking I’ve had no issues playing the multiplayer games I play, which (in my particular situation) puts me above at least one of the windows users in my group

Installing things not through steam can take longer sometimes, but I always made sure to do that ahead of time anyway

rbits,

Yeah, I mean, the best thing to do is to get it working ahead of time.

asexualchangeling,

The same is true no matter the OS, It’s always good to be prepared ahead of time

thezeesystem,

Wish I could play games on Linux, but for some fucking reason I can’t figure out my gaming laptop with Nvidia 1660ti will not work properly with most games. If I ever can afford a new computer I’m probably going with AMD instead tbh.

Commiunism,

I know this is quite unprompted, but did you install correct video drivers? You gotta install proprietary nvidia drivers and its 32-bit libraries instead of nouveau

redcalcium,

If your game run terribly on Wayland, try running in on X11, and vice-versa.

Caboose12000,

what distro are you using? I never had any issues on my nvidia build with nobara

abraxas,

Optimus? Because Optimus is an absolute bastard. It’s improved and I’ve had some luck, but it’s painful.

TunaCowboy, (edited )

What’s the output of nvidia-smi? If it’s a newer laptop you might need to add a machine owner key so that secureboot will allow the required dynamic kernel modules to load. In debian the module will be signed with the dkms signing key, adding it as a MOK is fairly simple. wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#Making_DKMS_modules_si…

*Try disabling secureboot first, if things start working re-enable it and follow the advice above.

Crashumbc,

While it’s great that your helping them …

This answer is exactly WHY Linux isn’t desktop/gamer ready yet. At least for the masses.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Good advice? In a meme thread? It’s more likely than you think.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Steam Deck time

doingless,

I’m too blind for a tiny screen.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Nintendo 3DS XL time then

user224, (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Reading this on smartphone in browser with desktop mode permanently enabled (and increased dp beyond smallest display size limit in dev settings).

I just wish it was 16:9. These ultrawide aspect ratios are terrible for a phone. Hell, I just want something like those old phablets.
My first “smartphone” was a 7" tablet with SIM card. Perhaps I should just try something like that, but tablets tend to be underpowered.

Unyieldingly,

Found the Nvidia user.

kittenzrulz123,

laughs in AMD

BoastfulDaedra,

Must be a by-distro thing. On KUbuntu and Pop! I’ve never had any issues with Nvidia, though I know that they’re a pain in the ass to work with.

CleanDefinition,

Same with Mint and LMDE, it just works.

BoastfulDaedra,

Mint is remarkably stable. They even seem to put a barrier up against Canonical’s questionable decisions.

That distro needs more funding and more shout-outs.

Macropolis,

It’s such a pain in the ass. Every time I have a kernal update it’s time to go into single user mode and hit up lynx for the new graphics driver.

Unyieldingly,

My issues have been proton with Nvidia, versions that work fine with AMD don’t work with Nvidia i can’t wait for NVK to be a thing.

For people who don’t know what NVK is.

www.collabora.com/…/introducing-nvk.html

bitwolf,

Will you’re almost free from that. I saw 6.7 uses the GSP firmware, so if you have a newer Turing card noveou (can never spell it) will be able to run games.

onlinepersona,

Fuck NVIDIA

tubaruco,

do you mean their graphics cards or everything they make?

onlinepersona,

No idea what else they make, but my experience with theirs graphics cards is enough to dissuade a purchase of any of their other products.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

MonkeMischief,

What distro? Running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed here and used to have to do that too. It was awful.

They have an official Nvidia repo that works pretty great now though, and works between kernel updates.

…now if only updates would stop randomly deciding my computer can’t wake up from sleep anymore, that’d be lovely…

JackbyDev,

Why can/is openSUSE do/doing it but not others?

sleep_walker,

Steam with Proton made this way more easier than in the past. OTOH, yeah, sometimes I feel like this when tuning CS2 on Wayland.

A_Random_Idiot, (edited )

biggest ongoing issue i’ve had is getting Vortex working for Bethesda games.

but I just found a linux installer for Mo2, and while I dont like having to launch Mo2 to launch my modded game… its fucking ecstasy island compared to the horrific jank of dealing with Vortex.

Cethin,

Vortex worked fine with my (pirated) copy of Starfield near launch. I think I launched it externally, not through Vortex though. I know CKAN for KSP2 works fine but fails to launch the game, at least for me. It also requires forcing an override on a DLL to get most mods to function, but it’s not much of a hassle.

Mango,

This anime girl is so cute.

Cyreld,
Mango,

I are interested.

Also heck yeah! I already had this on my list as it is!

WldFyre,

Are you 12??

tubaruco,

no hes just weird

Auli,

This seems dated. I’m not saying there is no issues but man has it improved so much.

rbits,

It’s different for different people. The distro, the hardware, and the game can all have an effect on how often problems arise.

Honytawk,

Improved =/= working 100% of the time

noisypine,

Ah, yes, not 100% of the time. You know, like Windows. Thanks for the laugh.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I use Android btw

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

Gotta get that Bingo Blitz!

phoenixz,

Implying that windows is stable, lol

the_post_of_tom_joad, (edited )

My whole thing even more than (gaming which is huge) is having to relearn how to make everything work. I was (i honestly have to say ‘was’ ugh) nearly a windows ‘power user’ for awhile, maybe peaked in my skills getting hardware running, programs and games running until win7 came out and shit just worked.

Nowadays when i go back to fix shit, or even just change a setting i have to relearn how to do it. Am i crazy or do they keep moving shit now? Fucking why? I have windows cuz inertia at this point but if i have to Google how to change basic Windows settings then there’s not much stopping me from tossing a match on Windows and walking away

Crashumbc,

So much shit keeps moving… Usually for NO REASON, even on Android run into it all the time.

wax,

For sure, but just as an example I tried starting Black Mesa on steam yesterday, which has a native release, but had to tinker quite a bit to get it working. Unfortunately I think it’s often the case that the native releases gets forgotten and lags behind the windows/proton releases

inverted_deflector,

It has but for multiplayer games and especially a game you never launched before there can be some friction.

lledrtx,

I’m so confused by why people have trouble with Nvidia on Linux. I have been using Debian and Ubuntu for as long as I can remember with Nvidia and it’s never been a problem. Now I use Pop and it’s perfectly fine too. No problem running dual 4K 60Hz monitors… Is the support bad on non-Debian distros?

BRBWaffles,
@BRBWaffles@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on the distro. I spent a lot of time in the TTY with NixOS before I was able to get my 4070 Ti working. On Pop it worked out of the box, but that’s not a worthwhile trade-off to me these days. Nix or bust.

Psythik,

What about 4K 120Hz with HDR? How well does that work on Linux with nVidia?

isVeryLoud,

Use KDE on the very latest kernel on Wayland, in theory it should work well but YMMV.

Psythik,

Good to know, thanks. I want to switch so badly but last time I checked, HDR support on *nix is still in its early stages. I’ll check it out.

isVeryLoud,

KDE very recently implemented some HDR support thanks to Valve, GNOME is still waiting on some PR getting merged.

candle_lighter,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

4k 120Hz will work without any special setup but HDR is a whole nother thing

Ziglin,

On EndeavourOS I had some trouble for a bit but I think I got some drivers from flatpak and they worked with no problem.

Kecessa,

Impossible, I’ve had Linux users swear to me that gaming on Linux is now perfect and even better than on Windows!

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve had people tell me that they experience better performance running games on Linux through Proton compared to running them natively on Windows. A while back, I decided to try Windows for the first time since 2002 on actual hardware. With TF2, I encountered significantly more crashes & lag compared to running it on my Arch install…

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re getting crashes and lag on TF2, that’s your pc. Do you have to hand crank it or something?

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I have to wait for the vacuum tubes to warm up when i turn it on

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

See I only got lag & crashes on windows, when on my Arch install I had/have no problems whatsoever. I haven’t used windows since 2002 & don’t really plan on doing so any time soon, the install was just to quickly see what windows 10 was like compared to Linux…

citrusface,

I can echo this. My games do have better performance running on pop_os rather than Windows.

Gallardo994,

It usually goes like this:

  • in certain games, with certain (usually low-medium) settings, without raytracing, with proprietary drivers if nvidia
abraxas,

This seems to be the Windows/Linux yinyang in gaming.

If you go through the effort (or non-effort. It really seems to be luck-based) of getting a gaming rig working in linux, 99% of the time it is simply better at everything, crashes less, etc. The 1% can require hours or more of troubleshooting.

Windows runs slower and worse than linux, and arguably less stable. But you boot up, click play, and (largely) it just plays.

That’s also my recent experience with Ubuntu on a gaming laptop. Every single step of the way gives me trouble, but when I manage to run something in the linux side, boy does it run well. So I’ve got this nice “todo” since I already blew my only free day on it last weekend.

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

A friend of a friend tried daily driving Ubuntu recently & had a few problems (some of which were gaming related). They eventually switched to Linux Mint and pretty much most of their problems seemed to disappear…

abraxas,

Interesting. I wish I could bring myself to like mint. I’ve typecast myself as an ubuntu-head ever since I went full “Elder Price” with the CDs back at my first dev gig.

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve never used mint myself, but I’ve heard good things about it. Last time I used Ubuntu on actual hardware was around 2008 I think. For the most part I’ve been using either Arch, Debian or Fedora…

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

Having problems with games sometimes is better than having less problems with games at the cost of your system being bloated, slow and designed in such a way that when it breaks you can’t do anything about it besides sfc /scannow and when that doesn’t work as usual, a complete os reinstall. Linux saves me time but that’s only because it’s possible to have the skill to fix all the random issues you run into, unlike with Windows.

flamingos,
@flamingos@ukfli.uk avatar

This meme would be so relatable if I had any friends.

fl42v,

Friends are overrated, comrade!

Hjalamanger,
@Hjalamanger@feddit.nu avatar

Friends are capitalistic propaganda to make you easier to manipulate and control into working long hours so that some guy called “CEO” can show off all of his green pieces of paper to his friends /s

dopeshark,
@dopeshark@lemmy.world avatar

Average linux user

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

all his friends left because he kept rambling about linux

Yerbouti,

Nobara + NVIDIA here. Everything works. Always. Seriously.

Aux,

Does multi monitor setup with different DPI work? Do DRM videos play? HDR?

mortrek,

They probably meant “everything that they use it for”. Like, in my case everything on Linux works for me, but I don’t play multiplayer games or use Photoshop. I have a single old monitor that can’t do HDR. I don’t watch Netflix. To be fair and pedantic, not everything anyone could possibly ever want to do works on Windows 11, either.

Yerbouti,

Of course I haven’t tested everything. But I’ve tested over 25 games and havent add issues. I do some serious audio editing (Reaper + tons of VST), video editing (Davinci Studio) and even tried some game engine stuff on linux (Unreal , Godot). Pretty much everything worked out of the box on Nobara. It’s optmize for games and AV. Honestly, even a year ago, I had no idea Linux was so good. I use (and teach) macOS for work, and was using Windows for gaming, but now I can do 90% of my things on Linux.

Yerbouti,

Yes, Yes (I think?, like what videos?), and Yes apparently.

lugal,

Is the joke that games are proprietary software too?

force, (edited )

That and the software the hardware uses itself is proprietary

possiblylinux127,

It doesn’t have to be

abraxas,

Well that too. The real joke is that despite the fact we’ve had 10 “years of the linux desktop”, it’s still an absolute bitch to get PICK A GAME working on that shiny linux box.

My new Lenovo Legion, I’m struggling with desktop graphics tearing issues in linux (just viewing the WM, of all things). When i have time, I’ll muddle through it, but I can’t pretend that is easier in linux than windows. It’s vendor-driven, sure, but the end user doesn’t care why they waste 8 hours doing setup work, only THAT they do.

13617,

THIS oh my god

And the amount of people that will do ANYTHING to defend Linux baffles me, and they all do it thinking they help Linux in general instead of highlighting their issues so they can be fixed

Grain9325, (edited )

“Trust me guys, it’s 95% better with Proton now” lol

Some of those people need to see all the users asking for help on Linux gaming forums.

Not trying to dismiss that Linux Gaming has gotten better before Proton but it can be an absolute pain at times.

abraxas,

Yeah, trust me, Linux Gaming used to be real shit. “When it works it works” is lightyears better than it used to be.

I remember in my linux-only years, trying to muddle through linux exclusives. Oftentimes you had to be super careful because linux doesn’t love prepared binaries

abraxas,

I mean, I freaking LOVE linux. And for what it’s good for, it’s the best of the best. I’ve never had a better dev experience than in Ubuntu, mostly because WSL is a pale shadow of a good unix backend (and because Macs, while good, are still subpar for that purpose). But that means I’m already committing 40 hours a week to maintaining and using my machine!

But for gaming? For casual use? I dunno. The hardware has to be hand-picked carefully, as do the games.

yamapikariya,
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

I always hear people say they sometimes have issues with games but I’ve switched to Linux relatively recently and I still haven’t had a game in my library that didn’t play.

BoastfulDaedra,

Ever since Valve started kicking it for Wine/Proton, gaming has been a cinch.

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