flamingos,
@flamingos@ukfli.uk avatar

This meme would be so relatable if I had any friends.

fl42v,

Friends are overrated, comrade!

Hjalamanger,
@Hjalamanger@feddit.nu avatar

Friends are capitalistic propaganda to make you easier to manipulate and control into working long hours so that some guy called “CEO” can show off all of his green pieces of paper to his friends /s

dopeshark,
@dopeshark@lemmy.world avatar

Average linux user

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

all his friends left because he kept rambling about linux

XEAL,

Battlebit Remastered T_T

crony,
@crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

It runs amazingly on linux, I have about 40 hours on the official release, and about 200on the beta all linux.

XEAL,

I tried like 6 Proton versions when there was that F2P weekend and it was impossible even to get the anticheat installer to work on Ubuntu 22.04.

IDK what I was doing wrong.

Moghul,

When you switch proton versions, it might be a good idea to delete the prefix directory. I find that helps.

crony,
@crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

Ubuntu, there is your answer.

On a serious note, are you sure you had the anticheat runtimes installed?

XEAL,

I remember trying that too. It was something you install via Steam, right?

Mikina, (edited )

This right here. I’ve spent a few hours troubleshooting why I can’t play Hell Let Loose, which also uses EAC, even though it should support Linux. Turned out, that you need to specifically search for (in your Library) and install “Proton EasyAntiCheat Runtime”, which is a separate game that for some reason didn’t get installed when you install the game.

I suppose it’s going to be the same with Battlebit, because I’m sure I played it on Linux and had 0 issues.

XEAL,

Not even with the stupid runtime worked me back then…

victorz,

Haven’t run into a game yet that doesn’t run on Linux when using Proton. 👌

Honytawk,

Haven’t run into a game yet that doesn’t run on Windows.

Without the need to fiddle with any settings. It is all just click and play.

victorz,

Same experience on Linux for me. Install Steam, install Proton, set it to be default for all games. Click and play. 🙂👍 Not really “fiddling”. It’s a one-time thing that I equate to just installing Steam. Very good experience.

flamingos,
@flamingos@ukfli.uk avatar

The only games that give me any trouble are some Japanese VNs, which can be absolutely cursed for some reason. Like, massive tech juggernauts like Cyberpunk are click and play, but I’ve spent hours getting books-with-PNGs working.

zurohki,

That’s because their code quality is usually an absolute dumpster fire that only works if Wine exactly replicates obscure Windows bugs.

reev,

My problem is that I enjoy specific multiplayer games. League, Val, Finals. Those are the three right now and riot specifically seems a tad disinterested in Linux. Sadge.

Mango,

League is owned by Tencent who is specifically interested in using the software for the benefit of the Chinese government as is mandatory for them. They don’t want you using an OS with actual security. Heck, they don’t even want you to see a skin or splash art that hasn’t been approved by their government!

Rodeo,

The anti cheat in league is literally a rootkit.

When it came out there was an outcry and their statement was basically “okay okay, so its a rootkit. But guys, you can trust us! We’re totally not going to do anything nefarious with it!”

I can’t believe people still play that shit.

ayaya,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

You mean Vanguard, which was announced but isn’t actually in the game yet. Their plan is to add it late February or early March. We don’t actually know any details about the implementation except that it won’t be used in the macOS version.

Trincapinones,

I thought it was going to be added this 24th, I was playing this week a lot as a “last goodbye” for that reason

fox2263,

As a novice, how does one use proton, and can I install StarCraft 2

victorz, (edited )

You install it from within Steam, or using flatpak if you’re installing Steam via flatpak [Proton on flatpak has reached EOL, try installing via Steam instead]. Then in settings you set it so every game uses the Proton compatibility layer, or whatever it’s called. You don’t have to do it per game, it’s a global setting (as well as a setting for each game if you prefer).

I can’t answer for a specific game though, you’d have to simply try it out or check a database which has info on games that can run using Proton. I don’t know the site from memory.

fox2263, (edited )

Thanks for the info!

On Eindows, StarCraft 2 comes from the Blizzard battle.net launcher.

I’m curious to know if I get a steam deck if I can play non steam games. I don’t really want to install windows on it.

victorz,

Let’s hope someone who knows about Steam Deck can answer that for you. Otherwise I’d try to find a community dedicated to Steam Deck. 👍

someacnt_,

I mean, some games do not work. Because they do not work on Windows as well. Looking at you, ksp 2 🤦‍♂️

victorz,

It’s such a shame about KSP 2. I was so hyped when I saw it was announced, then it all turned to shiz.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Destiny 2 still won’t work, and Simracing is still a no go.

SkyezOpen,

That just means you can’t buy 12 dlc to unlock the seasons, dungeons, raids, and whatever the hell else they’re paywalling. Destiny got enshittified.

AstralPath,

The simracing part is a real bummer. That’s the only reason I’m still on Win.

Darorad,

I pretty much only have issues with ea stuff. I was playing it takes two, and it was like 50/50 if it would work for me. It always worked for my friend on windows.

cybersandwich,

The Finals works on Linux!

In other news, I got a message saying I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux.

victorz,

That’s gotta be rectifiable somehow. Did you contact some sort of support?

cybersandwich,

It said I could reach out to support but I was hopping off and it didn’t give me any links or anything actionable in the message. So I guess I can go hunt down the support info and complain.

If I don’t get unbanned, oh well. I guess I won’t play that game anymore. Its not like I spent any money on it and my time invested in about an hour at this point.

BirdyBoogleBop,

That ban also pop up on your steam account? Because if it does that can screw you in other games if they have community servers.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux

How is that not illegal?

cybersandwich,

I know that’s a turn-of-phrase but it’s their game so they can do what they want.

It probably trips some EAC flag because it realizes something is “amiss”. Id guess going through proton might behave a little differently and they think you are cheating or installing hacked dlls or something so they ban.

I know when other games have caught a wave of Linux users in bans they reverse them in time.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If someone buys a product from you, you shouln’t be able to deny them from using it based on arbitrary criteria without a refund.

duffkiligan,

Don’t worry, they refunded his $0 for the free game.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh, it’s free? Then never mind.

smeg,

There are a couple, but I’m spoiled for choice with great games so the convenience of being able to run something on my Steam Deck means that the few that don’t run just drop to the bottom of the backlog. Proton is really a brilliant feat of engineering.

Darkraisisi,
@Darkraisisi@feddit.nl avatar

Maybe i bricked something in my machine somewhere when messing with drivers for machine learning cuda support. But I often have games that are ‘supported’ through proton but fail to launch or even crash my PC. Metro exodus & deep rock to name a few. Other games do run great. But still things like steam big picture being laggy is annoying.

nomen_dubium,

yeh that’ll probably be it tbf… the cuda drivers are specifically for scientific computing and are pretty rubbish for anything else unfortunately… even amd ones are like that :(

however a way i found around it is to just push my gpu compute envs to docker and voila (also avoids the pain of installing the drivers cos nvidia actually provides a cuda docker image) :D

victorz,

That’s actually a good tip. Even though I don’t use CUDA and never have.

knorke3,

the one i am the most sad about is magicka 1 - great game but getting it to run on linux is (as far as i’ve found so far) pretty much impossible.

Won’t claim that it runs all that great on windows either though - getting through a chapter without crashing is rarer than i’d like it to be…

achilleas90,

I recently heard about this. I used to play it. I searched on the steam discussion page and there is a fan patch that fixes all the crashes. It is on github. I found it for you. Try this. github.com/pj1234678/MagickaFix

knorke3,

was aware of it but it sadly doesn’t run on linux (at least not after me doing trial and error for 4 hours) and i felt the comparison to the unmodded one on windows fairer under these circumstances - thanks for trying to help though :)

devilish666,

From my experience running windows game inside wine, it’s run but doesn’t run smoothly like i running in windows
I don’t know if i missing something at installation process, i’ve been trying install it with bottles same thing happened
But good news now is i can find some games at gog that running on linux natively

Piogre314,

Then there’s Lin-ux, or Line-ux, I don’t know how you say it,

or how you install it, or use it, or play it,

or how you download it, or what programs run,

but Lin-ux, or Line-ux, don’t look like much fun.

RiderExMachina,

One of my friends and I end up troubleshooting for an hour before we can actually start playing games. Every single time. Linux just doesn’t want us to play games together, I guess.

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

it’s as easy as windows nowadays

Kecessa,

Impossible, I’ve had Linux users swear to me that gaming on Linux is now perfect and even better than on Windows!

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve had people tell me that they experience better performance running games on Linux through Proton compared to running them natively on Windows. A while back, I decided to try Windows for the first time since 2002 on actual hardware. With TF2, I encountered significantly more crashes & lag compared to running it on my Arch install…

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re getting crashes and lag on TF2, that’s your pc. Do you have to hand crank it or something?

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I have to wait for the vacuum tubes to warm up when i turn it on

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

See I only got lag & crashes on windows, when on my Arch install I had/have no problems whatsoever. I haven’t used windows since 2002 & don’t really plan on doing so any time soon, the install was just to quickly see what windows 10 was like compared to Linux…

citrusface,

I can echo this. My games do have better performance running on pop_os rather than Windows.

Gallardo994,

It usually goes like this:

  • in certain games, with certain (usually low-medium) settings, without raytracing, with proprietary drivers if nvidia
abraxas,

This seems to be the Windows/Linux yinyang in gaming.

If you go through the effort (or non-effort. It really seems to be luck-based) of getting a gaming rig working in linux, 99% of the time it is simply better at everything, crashes less, etc. The 1% can require hours or more of troubleshooting.

Windows runs slower and worse than linux, and arguably less stable. But you boot up, click play, and (largely) it just plays.

That’s also my recent experience with Ubuntu on a gaming laptop. Every single step of the way gives me trouble, but when I manage to run something in the linux side, boy does it run well. So I’ve got this nice “todo” since I already blew my only free day on it last weekend.

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

A friend of a friend tried daily driving Ubuntu recently & had a few problems (some of which were gaming related). They eventually switched to Linux Mint and pretty much most of their problems seemed to disappear…

abraxas,

Interesting. I wish I could bring myself to like mint. I’ve typecast myself as an ubuntu-head ever since I went full “Elder Price” with the CDs back at my first dev gig.

furycd001,
@furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve never used mint myself, but I’ve heard good things about it. Last time I used Ubuntu on actual hardware was around 2008 I think. For the most part I’ve been using either Arch, Debian or Fedora…

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

Having problems with games sometimes is better than having less problems with games at the cost of your system being bloated, slow and designed in such a way that when it breaks you can’t do anything about it besides sfc /scannow and when that doesn’t work as usual, a complete os reinstall. Linux saves me time but that’s only because it’s possible to have the skill to fix all the random issues you run into, unlike with Windows.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

i thought this was about game development for a second and was confused as to why you wouldn’t be able to do that on linux

Auli,

This seems dated. I’m not saying there is no issues but man has it improved so much.

rbits,

It’s different for different people. The distro, the hardware, and the game can all have an effect on how often problems arise.

Honytawk,

Improved =/= working 100% of the time

noisypine,

Ah, yes, not 100% of the time. You know, like Windows. Thanks for the laugh.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I use Android btw

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

Gotta get that Bingo Blitz!

phoenixz,

Implying that windows is stable, lol

the_post_of_tom_joad, (edited )

My whole thing even more than (gaming which is huge) is having to relearn how to make everything work. I was (i honestly have to say ‘was’ ugh) nearly a windows ‘power user’ for awhile, maybe peaked in my skills getting hardware running, programs and games running until win7 came out and shit just worked.

Nowadays when i go back to fix shit, or even just change a setting i have to relearn how to do it. Am i crazy or do they keep moving shit now? Fucking why? I have windows cuz inertia at this point but if i have to Google how to change basic Windows settings then there’s not much stopping me from tossing a match on Windows and walking away

Crashumbc,

So much shit keeps moving… Usually for NO REASON, even on Android run into it all the time.

wax,

For sure, but just as an example I tried starting Black Mesa on steam yesterday, which has a native release, but had to tinker quite a bit to get it working. Unfortunately I think it’s often the case that the native releases gets forgotten and lags behind the windows/proton releases

inverted_deflector,

It has but for multiplayer games and especially a game you never launched before there can be some friction.

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

During last gamenight with the friends we decided to play halo infinite. We all had a good laugh that the two on windows were the only ones crashing

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Me playing The Finals too, the other two crashing before the match and I was more like ‘I’m just hoping that I don’t get banned for playing on linux’

Honytawk,

Did they play the cracked version or the Steam version?

Voyajer, (edited )
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

It was the pvp multiplayer that’s free, so the steam version.

kusivittula,

i often play gta online with two friends who use windows. they have crashes, sounds disappearing, issues joining sessions and they keep falling through ground. on mint my only problem is no cursor in social club. my framerate is not great though, 80 - 100 vs on windows it stays above 120. except for the random massive lag spikes.

kautau, (edited )

It’s hilarious to me that I have to jump through so many hoops to get my old games working on windows when they run almost out of the box on Linux, but on the flip side with all the launchers and shit built into AAA games today it’s a hassle to get them set up on Linux. Like once I do get them set up they work great. But lutris, proton versions, winetricks, etc to get them working is an activity

Mandy, (edited )

You guys can get them to actually work??? Im counting myself lucky if the majority of games I try even start to begin with.

Its a distro agnostic problem too so I cant even jump to somewhere else to mitigate it.

Moghul, (edited )

What games are you trying? Off the top of my head, I’ve played monster hunter world, hunt showdown, cyberpunk 2077, baldur’s gate 3, norman reedus and the funky fetus, elden ring, deep rock galactic, doom (the new ones), apex, the dark souls games, warframe, and a few more over the years.

Mandy,

Im mostly emulating now cause of how bad it is but out if the top if my head.

C2077 ran like a slog at best, if it even started, so I never bothered again.

Warcraft 3 doesnt work.

Anno 1404 worked once than never again.

Plenty of indie games never start.

Protondb is pretty useless to me personally , none of their tweaks ever worked for anno 1404.

Moghul,

Can’t speak about the rest but

C2077 ran like a slog at best, if it even started, so I never bothered again.

Works fine on my 3070. Actually worked on release too. I’m on medium-high graphics 60fps in 4k.

Mandy,

I have a 1660 super, its a prebuilt.

Good that you can run it well, but some people cant just splurge on an overvalued and overpriced card so an unoptimized game may run reasonably well.

Moghul,

I mean, then it’s not really linux, is it?

As for the card, I bought it before it became apparent how overpriced it was, and it was a major upgrade from my second hand 970 anyway. And I didn’t splurge, I saved and bought what I thought made sense for me, when I could’ve ‘splurged’ on a 3080.

Mandy,

on windows it would still be very much perfectly playable, on linux? it was a slideshow

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Okay but with a 1660 super even on Windows that game won’t run too well. I know its above minimum reqs but that card is old. Even my 2080 TI is starting to show some age with framerates and what.

Moghul,

ITT: People getting mad for saying a 3 generations, 4 year old low end gpu is the issue

Mandy,

just because its not a sparkly shiny new card doesnt mean a miserable performance (for me) compared to the windows counterpart should be acceptable.

If id switch to windows right now i could still play c2077 in a perfectly playable state, if i where inclined to do so.

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

Is Anno 1404 installed through Lutris?

Mandy,

As far as I can tell it only points to steam, but i tried it on several occcasions, didnt yield any better results.

The version of anno I used also didnt make a difference, from og to history edition, it was all the same.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Anything with Anti-cheat seems to be a lot of work. Granted I only tried Fall Guys and Fortnite. But both of them take forever just to login.

Mandy,

I havent played a multiplayer game for more than an hour in years, but I especially avoid trends like fall guys and fortnite, so it isnt anticheat or anything.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

I like to imagine someone saying the top part out right before they start a round of a game then immediately transition to the bottom.

const_void,

Plus their computer is probably still running proprietary firmware

thezeesystem,

Wish I could play games on Linux, but for some fucking reason I can’t figure out my gaming laptop with Nvidia 1660ti will not work properly with most games. If I ever can afford a new computer I’m probably going with AMD instead tbh.

Commiunism,

I know this is quite unprompted, but did you install correct video drivers? You gotta install proprietary nvidia drivers and its 32-bit libraries instead of nouveau

redcalcium,

If your game run terribly on Wayland, try running in on X11, and vice-versa.

Caboose12000,

what distro are you using? I never had any issues on my nvidia build with nobara

abraxas,

Optimus? Because Optimus is an absolute bastard. It’s improved and I’ve had some luck, but it’s painful.

TunaCowboy, (edited )

What’s the output of nvidia-smi? If it’s a newer laptop you might need to add a machine owner key so that secureboot will allow the required dynamic kernel modules to load. In debian the module will be signed with the dkms signing key, adding it as a MOK is fairly simple. wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#Making_DKMS_modules_si…

*Try disabling secureboot first, if things start working re-enable it and follow the advice above.

Crashumbc,

While it’s great that your helping them …

This answer is exactly WHY Linux isn’t desktop/gamer ready yet. At least for the masses.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Good advice? In a meme thread? It’s more likely than you think.

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