Same experience on Linux for me. Install Steam, install Proton, set it to be default for all games. Click and play. 🙂👍 Not really “fiddling”. It’s a one-time thing that I equate to just installing Steam. Very good experience.
The only games that give me any trouble are some Japanese VNs, which can be absolutely cursed for some reason. Like, massive tech juggernauts like Cyberpunk are click and play, but I’ve spent hours getting books-with-PNGs working.
My problem is that I enjoy specific multiplayer games. League, Val, Finals. Those are the three right now and riot specifically seems a tad disinterested in Linux. Sadge.
League is owned by Tencent who is specifically interested in using the software for the benefit of the Chinese government as is mandatory for them. They don’t want you using an OS with actual security. Heck, they don’t even want you to see a skin or splash art that hasn’t been approved by their government!
When it came out there was an outcry and their statement was basically “okay okay, so its a rootkit. But guys, you can trust us! We’re totally not going to do anything nefarious with it!”
You mean Vanguard, which was announced but isn’t actually in the game yet. Their plan is to add it late February or early March. We don’t actually know any details about the implementation except that it won’t be used in the macOS version.
You install it from within Steam, or using flatpak if you’re installing Steam via flatpak [Proton on flatpak has reached EOL, try installing via Steam instead]. Then in settings you set it so every game uses the Proton compatibility layer, or whatever it’s called. You don’t have to do it per game, it’s a global setting (as well as a setting for each game if you prefer).
I can’t answer for a specific game though, you’d have to simply try it out or check a database which has info on games that can run using Proton. I don’t know the site from memory.
I pretty much only have issues with ea stuff. I was playing it takes two, and it was like 50/50 if it would work for me. It always worked for my friend on windows.
It said I could reach out to support but I was hopping off and it didn’t give me any links or anything actionable in the message. So I guess I can go hunt down the support info and complain.
If I don’t get unbanned, oh well. I guess I won’t play that game anymore. Its not like I spent any money on it and my time invested in about an hour at this point.
I know that’s a turn-of-phrase but it’s their game so they can do what they want.
It probably trips some EAC flag because it realizes something is “amiss”. Id guess going through proton might behave a little differently and they think you are cheating or installing hacked dlls or something so they ban.
I know when other games have caught a wave of Linux users in bans they reverse them in time.
There are a couple, but I’m spoiled for choice with great games so the convenience of being able to run something on my Steam Deck means that the few that don’t run just drop to the bottom of the backlog. Proton is really a brilliant feat of engineering.
Maybe i bricked something in my machine somewhere when messing with drivers for machine learning cuda support. But I often have games that are ‘supported’ through proton but fail to launch or even crash my PC. Metro exodus & deep rock to name a few. Other games do run great. But still things like steam big picture being laggy is annoying.
yeh that’ll probably be it tbf… the cuda drivers are specifically for scientific computing and are pretty rubbish for anything else unfortunately… even amd ones are like that :(
however a way i found around it is to just push my gpu compute envs to docker and voila (also avoids the pain of installing the drivers cos nvidia actually provides a cuda docker image) :D
I recently heard about this. I used to play it. I searched on the steam discussion page and there is a fan patch that fixes all the crashes. It is on github. I found it for you. Try this. github.com/pj1234678/MagickaFix
was aware of it but it sadly doesn’t run on linux (at least not after me doing trial and error for 4 hours) and i felt the comparison to the unmodded one on windows fairer under these circumstances - thanks for trying to help though :)
Why? Bleeding edge has newer packages which are often needed when trying to play some new game. That’s why steam OS is now arch based when it used to be debian based. Too old packages
Yeah I used it as well, but I was missing a couple of dependencies and realized that I have to move the loadorder files around in order for mods to be loaded. Was pretty annoying but it worked in the end.
As someone who was already only mostly playing single player games, the transition from Windows to Linux was so easy. All my games just work. The only multiplayer game I fuck with anymore is Battlebit Remastered, and that works great.
Since my style of learning is “jump in and figure it out as you go” (impulsive idiot), I’ve been very impressed with how much has just worked.
I’ve been afraid to recommend my set up to friends though because I don’t want to be their troubleshooter.
I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users. In fact, if it made it to mainstream, it’d probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc. How you may ask? Well, corporations have a lot of money and influence and I’m sure they could “find a way” if motivated to do so.
This is a dumb argument. Yes, my phone uses Linux. How many of the Android users actively come in contact with the underlying system?
Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook with a real Linux distro pre installed (not that lightweight barebones distro they preinstall so they can sell it without Windows but with OS).
I use Gentoo, the family PC has OpenSUSE, only my wife’s laptop has Windows… Because guess what, she wants to use what she’s used to, what she knows.
Aren’t there Android versions that don’t have all the Google things and are open source? (GrapheneOS and LineageOS) If you’re just talking about your average android I’m afraid I agree and am an offender myself. (I hope to change that one day though)
Google still controls the source, and so they have influence over the rest.
It’s like Ungoogled Chromium. Sure, it’s open source. Sure, if might have Google crap removed. Google still calls the shots on the direction of the browser.
Same still meaningfully applies to Chromium-based browsers.
Apple uses *NIX, it will either become hardware specific versions or Linux where you pay for the OS with the hardware, or be like Red Hat where you pay if you want to do anything.
i have relinquished to windows. I log into all my pcs with my phone number now its so convenient i have like 4 licenses attached to it from buying hardware. They give me pennies for my data on Bing its hilarious ill get an Xbox 7 someday for free as a corpobitch
The new outlook though that is so ass. I expect windows 12 to be a much better experience and fully integrate the modern bloat like which sports team won last night right into my retinas!
i often play gta online with two friends who use windows. they have crashes, sounds disappearing, issues joining sessions and they keep falling through ground. on mint my only problem is no cursor in social club. my framerate is not great though, 80 - 100 vs on windows it stays above 120. except for the random massive lag spikes.
It’s hilarious to me that I have to jump through so many hoops to get my old games working on windows when they run almost out of the box on Linux, but on the flip side with all the launchers and shit built into AAA games today it’s a hassle to get them set up on Linux. Like once I do get them set up they work great. But lutris, proton versions, winetricks, etc to get them working is an activity
This is the thing which keeps me from switching entirely to Linux. A friend of mine needs twice the amount of Time to start his Games (which is something I would have no Problem with) and what makes it not worth switching imo is that he loses the sound from Discord when he plays. He needs to restart DC then. And no one knows why ._.
My bet would be wine grabbing the audio device and not using Pipe wire/PulseAudio. It happened to me once, I believe I solved it by recompiling something (PipeWire, wine or the gst plugins). I would recommend trying to run Discord and the game in terminal, it might show some error to help with troubleshooting.
I had Windows 10 do it once over however many years i was using it (was a fairly early adopter), and Windows 11 has never done it.
Anyone who can easily use Linux can just make Windows not do that kind of shit, and not auto-update, and block the connection from basically all Windows processes.
They’d prefer to learn nothing, blame the OS for not looking and operating exactly like Linux, and then claim it sucks not for the reasons it sucks but because they can’t be bothered to try.
Part of that I’m sure it’s the fact that I work nights, but Windows refuses to acknowledge that during my work hours is not an appropriate time to install updates.
Simply stepping away to get a coffee or use the restroom is enough for Windows to decide now is the time to reboot and install updates for an hour or so and you better hope you saved everything before stepping away.
As a matter of fact, one of those instances is the one where the update broke my bitlocker encryption and I lost everything that wasn’t backed up. That was my last day using Windows.
Was it your personal computer or a company managed computer? Either way, when to automatically start updates is just a setting that’s easily set. As is the “pause updates for X weeks” so that you have more weeks to do an intentional reboot. There might be some major security patches they’ve forced through anyways? But I don’t think I’ve had any windows update issues since like 2017 or 2018.
It was not managed, honestly I should’ve disabled bitlocker, I just never expected it to be a problem.
As to settings for when it installs updates, they didn’t seem to stick or were not always respected in my experience. I spent a bit of effort trying to make sure it wasn’t configured to do that but it would still just go for it anyway if the system ever became idle after midnight or so.
Anyway this story has a happy ending because after that I decided to give daily driving linux another shot, and none of the issues I had experienced previously still exist here.
In fact, incredibly enough I have found on average that the games I play perform better on Linux now than they did on Windows.
And my OS never installs updates without my permission, let alone forcing an unscheduled reboot.
The only things I can’t play on linux are games with heavy kernel-injected anti-cheats and racing games (AC and BNG). Everything else “just works”. Hell, I even managed to get Overcooked’s cross-platform version to work.
If by AC you mean Assetto Corsa, it works, you just have to follow a guide (it’s easy, you have to remove the Proton data for the game from Steam, then install the older Proton version, run the game with this older version until it crashes, then switch to new version of Proton and run it again. It will install required dependencies and will run fine, even my old G25 steering wheel worked without problems)
I havent gamed on it yet but it is pretty responsive. My specs are nvidia geforce rtx3060 and amd ryzen 7. Also i am using KVM as the hypervisor since it is type 1 which means better performance and safety overall.
In regards to the VM, you can alucate as much ram and cpu power to it to make it performe better if needed (when setting up and you can also adjust it afterwards, at least in virtmanager (KVM) ). And there is an aspect I haven’t really touched but heard that it improved performance which is gpu passthrough.
(I dont really limit processes and stuff, just simple alucation and configuration)
That used to be true a few years ago, but now games just works without any tinkering from my experience. Except some online games due to kernel level anti cheats (like Fortnite and Valorant), but I prefer single player games anyway
Yeah I’ve never been big on competitive multiplayer, my Halo days were mostly campaign and due to thats what my friends were playing. So linux being blocked by competitive games is a non issue for me as well
No seriously though, I aliased the apt command to nala and I use it instead.
It works nicely with grc for colors in the console and more importantly it supports simultaneous downloads so it runs through a large queue of updates much more quickly.
If you’re a user interacting with a terminal => apt
If you’re writing a script or putting it in a docker file/automation => apt-get
Apt is just a wrapper around apt-get a newer binary than apt-get (I stand corrected after checking my memory against google) and there are warnings that the apt shorthand is not as reliable in scripted scenarios. Its meant for user convenience.
The crazy thing is, you would probably want to name it something direct and memorable like LINUX APP STORE to market it to the masses. Have a tag line like “it’s all free!” or whatever.
In the Super Bowl (no affiliation to c/superbowl) commercial, we’ll hear some grandma questioning whether the things on her new laptop were free from restrictions or free from cost, and her jock grandson will look right into the camera and say “yes!”
If you read the man page for pacman, it helps. S stands for synchronise, Q for query (local), F is for find (remote), R is for remove. The following sub options (yu after -S) are specific to each main option.
Still a couple deal breakers for me, though most stuff otherwise runs fine. No HDR support. Sucks if you have a great monitor but can’t use it. No nvidia broadcast. Necessary for my mic+speaker setup, common alternative such as noisetorch are convenient, but don’t even come close to echo filtering quality from the speakers. Yes, that’s super subjective obviously. Performance tends to be noticeably to only slightly worse on max settings with nvidia on highly specialized, very demanding games. Some anti cheat tools struggle with compatibility modes.
We’re getting there, but it’s tough with nvidia not caring. :/
My intent was just to provide a viewpoint from someone that loves and uses Linux aplenty, but spends a lot of time with Max quality gaming, using high end hardware.
And while things have improved massively over the past years and probably will get even better in the next years, nvidia’s monopoly on top performance GPU means I’m being bottle necked by their shitty Linux support.
Sure, I can play almost any game out there on Linux, but not with the performance and sometimes not even the same quality I can achieve with Windows. I know this is no fault of Linux, but it’s the pragmatic reality I’m confronted with.
I understand the HDR thing dealt with the standards for it being absolute undecided mess; but it’s looking like we’ll have support cranked out before the end of 2024. Here’s hoping, I do all my multimedia stuff on KDE.
HDR monitors have been standardized more poorly than Bluetooth was, so I could kind of see this sort of producer interference coming. It didn’t help that the average user doesn’t even understand what that means.
Most modern hardware works out of the box on Linux, and often runs a stripped down kernel as its own firmware.
Add comment