I just bought a new set. We used to have a vertical stacked set but only the bottom washer was unrepairable. We had to rearrange a lot of stuff in our laundry room to get a side by side set in there but we found one that worked nicely. WAY bigger capacity than our last units and only $50 more than the cheapest set available. And yeah, it’s not smart. No Internet.
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I want a Speed Queen. They’re way more expensive than your standard machines, but there’s a reason you find them in laundromats everywhere. They’re built to be abused.
What do people even do with their wifi appliances? Throw the load in and say Alexa start the washer? How is that easier than setting it yourself?
Only reason I have a smart washer and dryer is so they can send me a notification when they finish their load. As someone with ADHD and anxiety that’s a godsend.
I got one of these after my Samsung literally caught fire and it is… fine. Kinda small, loud, and beeps incessantly sometimes when nothing is running to the point I have to unplug it at night lest it go off at 4am again. Has yet to explode so soft recommend from me
But I wanted a washer dryer that had a heat pump drying system.
The one I got on sale also had an auto dosing tray for detergent and softener.
Genuinely very pleased with all the features my “smart appliance” has.
It uses less power, less water, less detergent. And it weighs and uses humidistats to not over dry my clothes.
The dumb ones that just work on set timers are less efficient than one measuring the load to decide how much water to use and when it’s dry.
I suppose I used to eyeball detergent but now a 40 wash bottle lasts me 50 washes.
Long warranty on it I hope I’ll never have to test. But it’s there.
To get that I ended up with a WiFi enabled machine and just never put it on a network and turned its own broadcast off.
I occasionally set a time on it. But genuinely throw in the clothes, push 2 buttons, and walk away.
Any appliance that can now be a heat pump instead of an element, or actually measures things instead of using timers is a genuine improvement. Even if it’s fairly rudimentary still.
I ended up the same way. The heat pump washer/dryer combo I got happens to have wifi. I genuinely enjoy this machine even though I don’t think I’m capable of fixing it outside of buying a whole new “heat pump unit” and installing it. It works well and it’s way more efficient than the old electric unit that was here when we moved in.
What do people even do with their wifi appliances?
Timing, automatic and stuff. To keep the washing machine example: you want the laundry out of the machine as soon as possible go hang it up as fresh as possible. You’re having a long day ahead of you, not a long time between coming home and going to bed, not enough for a full laundry run at least. You load up your machine before leaving home and remote start it the adequate time so it’s done shortly after you’re back home.
At least that’s what I’d use such features for.
Other people listen to Spotify over their fridge.
Main thing is I get a notification on my phone when it’s done. I’m not always near my washer. Sometimes I forget. The times vary a lot by load size so a timer it’s as good. Saves me time and keeps my clothes from getting moldy
The biggest advantage is that it sends you a ping when it’s done, and can send you a message about the need for routing maintenance, like changing filters or refilling the detergent container.
Settings wise, it’s slightly easier to set from the app, since a telephone has better UX than a washing machine. Mostly I just leave it at “you figure it out” so it’s moot.
You can’t actually start it remotely unless you press a button on the machine first, just send settings to it to activate by pressing start.
I tried to change to Thunderbird but I can’t figure out how to make it work with my work e-mail. I’m wondering how much of that has to do with my work e-mail using office365. 🤔
Everything. O365/outlook do not use normal email protocols. On normal exchange you can enable imap. Do not know about o365 tho. Also unfortunatly you loose a lot of other features if you dare to step outside the walled garden.
By default they use protocols specific to outlook/exchange/365. Sometimes referred to as activesync or outlook anywhere, which encapsulates their own protocol (I think it’s MAPI?) Over an HTTPS tunnel.
These technologies have had a lot of names.
In the past few years 365 also requires TLS 1.2 at least, and oauth. Oauth is when a mini browser window pops up for your 2FA info, like ms authenticator or duo or whatever your organisation is using. The nice thing about oauth is that it’s compatible with many identity providers, not just MS. The bad thing is that it’s fairly unique that outlook supports it. I don’t know of any other email clients that support it…
Even if you can get passed the login, most mail clients don’t support MAPI over HTTPS the way that outlook does. There are some android/iPhone apps that support it, but that’s not universal either; the naming can fluctuate between the options I’ve mentioned earlier.
The only good way to get this done (speaking as someone who has had to help someone get it working), the organizational email admin needs to enable either pop or (preferably) IMAP, and assign an application password to it. This password is long and usually a string of random characters. It gets saved to your email client software and it is used nowhere else. It’s been a long time since I’ve done this and I’m not sure it’s still supported like this.
I hope that gives you more information as to the challenge ahead of you.
I bought an “analog” washing machine (I can’t believe I just wrote that) because of simplicity. The more complicated something is, the more difficult it is to repair, and the more potential points of failure there are.
Yeah but washing machines either use a really simple micro controller or a whole load of really complex voltage based logic and control board electronics that even the guy who designed it couldn’t fix without a lot of writing notes and doing maths.
There’s more to go wrong on an old washing machine and each control board was unique to the machine so tracking down a replacement is hard - a nice simple raspberry pi Pico you can flash over WiFi would make it so easy to switch out one heater for another without too much thought about impedance or upgrade the turbidity sensor without desoldering resistors.
Plus it gives you infinite control over the program cycles allowing you to update up the best wash method for your detergent and lifestyle.
Of course you can only do that with an open source one. I think it’s coming, year of the open source desktop kitchen work surface coming soon.
That’s not really true though, the electronics is pretty complex and requires significant work to use different components - I’m sitting next to a pile of dissembled washing machines so i could talk you through a few of the complexities involved in reworking those if you like
There are washing machines without anything more complex than a switch in them. If you really had a “pile of disassembled washing machines” you’d know that.
Nothing to control the motor, nothing to control the heater, nothing to do timing or turn on and off water in and out?
Even a really shitty one has door lock sensor, temperature sensor, turbidity sensor…
Which means logic gates and transformers and things to shift voltages or control power flow.
That’s before you even get into the logic of controlled programs or advanced features like weight based energy saving.
A micro controller connected to a few relays and sensors could replace all the complex stuff and it’d cost far less, plus it could tell you which sensor is out. Plus it allows you to do otherwise very complex things like reprogram the current job while it’s running or to sync with other devices to limit max power load.
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