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SnotFlickerman, (edited ) in I guess openai's ex-ceo is now #OpenToWork
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For what its worth, it seems like the board is claiming that Altman’s constant wheeling and dealing of the technology, including giving Microsoft a minority stake in the LLC, rubbed them the wrong way, and they felt that his increasingly transparent desire for profits was antithetical to the original purpose of the OpenAI Non-Profit, which was to safeguard AGI, not to market and sell it.

Honestly, I felt that way too, so I’m on the boards side with this one. It felt pretty clear that Altman had tossed out the “beneficial for humanity” goal in favor of “beneficial to me and my wallet.”

Even_Adder,

Here’s to hoping for an actually open OpenAI in the future.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I highly doubt that’d happen.

Even_Adder,

Why?

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

At its current level of capability, an unaligned GPT-4/5 could cause harm to humanity

Even_Adder,

Current open models are closing in on GPT-4. The real magic is in models fine-tuned in a specific field, not generalist models.

frauddogg, (edited )
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

There’s still a board full of capitalist investors; that day will never come

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

does it have to do with the name? first Sam Bankman-Fried, and now him lol. seeing his interviews makes me think he’s more of a wannabe cult-head guy, just like most of silicon-valley bros.


PS: seen his worldcoin thing? it’s whole another level of privacy nightmare.

PeleSpirit,

Double edged sword, them firing him will probably release him from his contracts so he can pursue that money train.

lemmesay,
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my theory: Microsoft will hire him and make him as their face of AI stuff.

EnderMB,

Congrats on getting this right!

miss_brainfart, (edited )
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Microsoft

Will their new project at least not be racist and xenophobic this time?

kautau,

I highly doubt it. They are one of the largest investors in OpenAI. If the board ousted him for ethical reasons and they hire him, they could very easily destroy their relationship with OpenAI, and they want to stay ahead to make sure they can capitalize on AI money

lemmesay,
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kautau,

Welp I was wrong. That’s not good for AI ethics

EpicFailGuy,
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@PeleSpirit

@lemmesay @SnotFlickerman

If he doesn't have an offer yet ... I bet there's a line of companies knocking on his door offering him CEO positions

kautau,

True, but he’s a CEO, not a scientist. OpenAI’s head scientist, Ilya was part of the reason behind him being ousted, and he has spoken about the importance of AI ethics in the past.

ecorner.stanford.edu/…/ethical-ai-regulation/

Sam will just go run another company somewhere

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

What money train? Sure, he’s famous now, reasonably understands ai, and has a reputation around it…

He doesn’t actually have the ability to advance AI tech. He’s a figurehead chosen to represent engineers and handle the logistics for people who do have the ability to advance this miracle technology

What’s his money train? Joining the circuit of short time CEOs?

alphabetsheep,

For better or for worse he’s got a lot of friends within openai. Sounds like many of them have threatened to resign if he’s gone. If he goes and starts a competing company without the ethical guardrails, I think it’s likely a lot of folks will follow him. He also has very tight ties to the investing community so he would likely be able to raise funds quickly. I think there’s a solid chance he could make a credible competitor to openai within the next 5 years, especially if they lose talent/money over this.

Ottomateeverything,

Yeah, that’s a good way of looking at this… I didn’t understand the Microsoft move at all. Why would an “open” non profit want to build business relationships with tech monoliths. It seemed antithetical, but I honestly had assumed that was more of a board/share holder decision… Sounds like that probably wasn’t the case.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I thought the board was on board too… But it came when Musk pulled promised funding on the run up to gpt4. It was a shit bird move, but it seemed like it was just picking the best of bad options to keep the lights on in a critical time

I mean, no arguing that he sold their souls to Microsoft though… They’ve made openai products part of every service they run, and seem to have nudged their trajectory significantly

MxM111,
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How did you make these conclusions about reasoning for firing him from the statement the board gave?

FlyingSquid, in Everytime
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My daughter was so bullied, we had to pull her out of public school and put her in online school. The school did virtually nothing about it no matter how much we pleaded with them. Even when a girl doxxed her and started prank calling her the school gave both her and my daughter a talking to as if it was my daughter’s fault and that was it.

radioactiveradio,

My bully flicked an ink refill at my face, went into my eyes, and right in front of the teacher. I punched him, was taken to the principal and he made me APOLOGISE TO THE BULLY, and shake hands with him. The whole education system is broken.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She doesn’t even fight back. She doesn’t like to do that. I’ve tried to tell her to do it and she just doesn’t have the self-esteem. It’s been bullied out of her. I wish I had taken her out sooner. I feel pretty guilty about that. But I didn’t really accept that it was a situation that would not be resolved until Halloween, where she wore a really cool anime cat girl costume which looked exactly like a character she loves- I don’t remember the name- that my wife made for her. I’m not big on anime, but it was like high-end cosplay level when it came to a costume. My wife is really talented. She was so excited that she wouldn’t even take it off all day after my wife finished it. She wore it to school and basically the entire school told her she was a furry and her costume was terrible and made fun of her the entire day. She got up the next day and broke down and said she couldn’t go to school anymore and we realized that was something that is not fixable.

BleatingZombie,

This might be a long shot, but ask her if she’d be interested in learning martial arts. She doesn’t need to “learn how to fight” for it to give her more confidence. It worked for me

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve asked her before. It doesn’t interest her. She’s not an athletic kid. Also, there are other issues I can’t get into.

radioactiveradio,

While it’s generally good to avoid confrontations and walk away, it’s a good idea to know atleast basic self-defense. School was a terrible experience for me as people with low self-confidence tend to make easy targets for bullies. I hope your daughter gets through school without much trouble. Please do support her. Sometimes it’s not easy for kids to tell people cuz of ego or just the general distrust for adults. Also whoever thought putting a bunch of puberty riddled kids into one room was an idiot.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Middle school is the worst time in school. Kids are absolute monsters at that age.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Aligns with my experience

cristalcommons,

that’s horrible, pal, i’m so sorry :'( how is she doing now, if you want to share?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She’s still not great, but it’s only been a couple of weeks. She needs time to heal. She’s not going back to a public school until next year at the earliest, and not that school. Unfortunately, I had to quit my job to help her with her online classes, but we’ll manage.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I hope both of you are good. It is really sad to see something like this happen.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. She’s not great yet, but she’ll get better. I have my own problems.

SuddenDownpour,

You’re a great parent. I wish you strength.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you.

FreshLight,

put her in online school

the school did virtually nothing

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Another school, obviously

GreenMario, (edited )

Teachers play favorites and they always loved the psychopaths.

Wandering_Uncertainty,

You might have had bad teachers and bad admin, true - but more likely, the school can’t do anything.

I’m a teacher, and I cannot tell you how incredibly frustrated I am at how tied my hands are. The admin can’t do much, either.

My options: talk sternly to the student. Talk sternly to the parent/guardians. And… that’s it.

Send them to the office? Sure. The principal also has those two options, for the most part. Suspending students is something we only do in very rare circumstances, but they really, really try to avoid it, because so often, kids are acting out because of stuff at home, so suspending them only makes the behaviour worse.

We can’t do detentions after school or on weekends - we can’t force parents to bring their kids in then. Lunch hour detentions, we can’t afford dedicated staff to run them, especially since we’d also need them to chase the students down, because it’s not like they’ll go just because they were told to. We can’t fail students any more.

Our district has also even gotten rid of prizes for achievements - no more honor roll, no awards, nothing. Apparently this makes the low performers feel bad, and we couldn’t have that.

And talking to the parents? Most parents are honestly great, but also, I never talk to them, because the kids with the great parents, I never need to call home. The asshole kids? Their parents are almost always a nightmare. And it’s a waste of time to talk to them.

One kid last year, went after another kid’s field trip paperwork with a pair of scissors. Ripped into her like no one’s business. Sent an email home describing the situation. I was pretty sure, based on her history, she wasn’t really going to destroy his stuff, she was trying to get a rise out of him, so I said something like, “while I believe she was only intending to annoy him, not actually destroy property, it is critical for her to understand that this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour” or something like that.

So rather than telling her kid off, mom goes to the principal to try to get me in trouble for calling her kid annoying.

In application? Doesn’t matter what the teachers or even admin want to do. The district, province/state, and country have taken away practically every carrot and stick, when it comes to students with extreme behavior.

It’s a huge mess.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I can understand all of that, but when one kid doxxes another and starts making prank calls, which we provided evidence of- we had logs and voicemails- and the administration admonishes both kids, that’s on them, not on anyone else. They didn’t have to lecture my daughter about bullying the other girl when she was the one being attacked.

DarkenLM,

If your daughter was doxxed, can't you file a criminal complaint directly with the police? At least where I live, it would be grounds for a criminal investigation.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

People have tried many times and it never works. Not in the U.S.

See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing#United_States

DarkenLM,

Damn, that's a shame. He in the EU, there's tons of laws that can be used on cases like that, and many times, they are and work.

Hope things get better for you in the future.

IHadTwoCows,

The EU is a civilized first world society, unlike the US

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks.

Wandering_Uncertainty,

In that case, yeah, you’ve got an admin problem. I’m sorry - that really sucks. The entire system desperately needs an overhaul. The education system in Canada is a dumpster fire, and the US is even worse. Dealing with behavioral issues is one of many major problems…

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. At least we have a solution, even if that solution involves me quitting my job. She’s more important than my job anyway.

ArmokGoB,

Send them to the office? Sure. The principal also has those two options, for the most part. Suspending students is something we only do in very rare circumstances, but they really, really try to avoid it, because so often, kids are acting out because of stuff at home, so suspending them only makes the behaviour worse.

As someone who was bullied all the way until the start of high school, I would probably look the other way if my hypothetical children seriously hurt someone over repeated bullying. I think any alternative is better than that for everyone involved.

terminhell,

I had an unusual lesson from my parents regarding bullies. They told me, that if they found out that the I didn’t even try defending myself from bullies and found out, I’d still get whooped at home. It seems kinda cruel at surface level. But when the time ultimately came, dam straight I fought back tooth and nail. And no, they were not abusive in any way. Even reflecting back as an almost 40yr old adult. They were both prison guards/swat people. So they had a very different perspective of bullying I guess.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, in I guess openai's ex-ceo is now #OpenToWork
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

If you’re gonna replace a worker with an AI, replacing the CEO gives you the most return on investment.

Octopus1348, in Doomba

It can boot if it’s low quality.

chuckleslord, in Abort mission! We have been tricked!

The meme is upside down! Fix these pictures of spiderman!

Perfide,

Agreed, but fix your disrespect. It’s Spider-Man! Respect the hyphen.

TheSanSabaSongbird, (edited ) in I have never understood that.

There’s a lot of bullshit in this thread. People can wear shorts in cold weather either a) if it’s not that cold, or b) if it’s not for a long period of time. I’ve been in -50 and -60 degrees fahrenheit weather in Alaska and Montana and Wyoming and when it gets that cold any exposed skin is a huge liability and will become frostbitten and/or severely painful in a very short amount of time. Left untreated it will turn necrotic which is not good. You also, pretty much no matter what you’re wearing, can’t stop moving at those temps unless you are in some kind of shelter.

When I worked on The Slope in Alaska back in the 90s we used to do 20 minutes outside and then 20 minutes inside for full 16-hour shifts.

That said, it can be kind of invigorating and of course you do get used to it and learn to not let it bother you.

Edit: Also, if anyone cares, I’m not proud of having worked for Big Oil on The Slope back in the day. At the time I was young, it was a big adventure and it paid big money that allowed me to do a lot of other things that I otherwise would never have been able to do. Also, it was all union work through IUPAT DC5 which I am still an active member/activist of today.

ObviouslyNotBanana, in Soupervisor
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Soupercomputer

Nelots, in boardgameme.png

Are you just sitting there in silence when playing board games? Kinda defeats the whole social aspect of them.

FrogmanL, in Everytime

What learned was to fight back when no one was watching. No one believed the bully when they said I did it, and I got some payback.

cows_are_underrated,

I learned it the semi hard way to not fight back. I did it once and imediatly got “fucked” by the teacher. That I had complained to the teacher and even the principal didn’t bother them. So instead of fighting back I let all the bad things I experienced burn into me to a point where I just wanted to kill myself. Holidays temporarily restored my will to live but it wasn’t until 8th or 9th grade that stopped thinking about killing myself, since most bullies either dropped out or changed schools.

brown567, in Soupervisor

Bow to him, for he is our souperior 🙇

bruhduh, in Soupervisor
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magnetosphere, in How did this break rule 1? Did you just not read the 2nd panel?
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That’s probably exactly what happened.

Anyway, I’m glad you reposted. This is a good point that people need to remember.

Mrs_deWinter, in It's like a hobby for him

Good tips in the comments - although in my experience sometimes it just doesn’t work. I’ve got 3 litter boxes for one cat, they are accessible to him, private, and clean. He still poops on the floor when I’m not at home (or asleep).

Animals can have behavioral issues just like people.

anhkagi, in Soupervisor
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of the soup store

Mr_Fish,

WHY ARE YOU BUYING CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE?!?!

MxM111, in How did this break rule 1? Did you just not read the 2nd panel?
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

I think because it suggests that there is such thing as Israeli Ethnostate. There is Israel, in which you have about 25% Arab citizens. Far from being ethnostate, the Arab citizens enjoy equal rights and protections from the state.

CriticalMiss,
amanneedsamaid,

Fuck no.

OurToothbrush,

Far from being ethnostate, the Arab citizens enjoy equal rights and protections from the state.

Are you blatantly lying or are you just incredibly misinformed?

Grayox, (edited )
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Israel passed a controversial new “nation-state law” last week that’s sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:

It states that “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people."

It establishes Hebrew as Israel’s official language, and downgrades Arabic — a language widely spoken by Arab Israelis — to a “special status.”

It establishes “Jewish settlement as a national value” and mandates that the state “will labor to encourage and promote its establishment and development.”

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