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FartsWithAnAccent, in Everytime
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LPT: Have a friend distract the teacher before you beat your bully’s ass.

Senseless,

Or beat up the bully on his way home. Damn, that was a good feeling… sigh the good old days.

FartsWithAnAccent, (edited )
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I broke their wrist in art class after they hit me with a chair. Got suspended of course, but it was worth it: People didn’t really fuck with me after that.

Senseless,

I hit him so hard the whole bus heard it. Since a lot of students hated him they chanted to hit him again and I so I did. Also didn’t get bullied for the next three years. The valuable lesson I learned this day was: stand up for yourself.

agitatedpotato, (edited ) in Everytime

These situations taught me there’s no reason in holding back, you’re going to get in trouble for doing the right thing. May as well really earn that punishment. I can’t even imagine trying to deal with your bully in the age where everyone has a pocket video recorder. Make a statement I say.

SlopppyEngineer,

That’s what schools with zero tolerance policies teach children: hit the bully with extreme prejudice as you’re punished anyway even for defending.

Candelestine, in Everytime

Authorities will always immediately quell any currently-happening hostilities when they arrive on the scene, that’s a clearly necessary first step in order to figure out what the hell is happening. A common bullying tactic is to bait the person into fighting back, knowing that the anger will push them so far they get in trouble.

You see, the bully has enormous amounts of experience and practice at toe-ing this precise line. The quiet kid does not, they’re quiet, they don’t run into it very often. The bully knows this.

So, if you absolutely must hit back because nobody and nothing else is helping, do it quickly, decisively and cleanly, and then stop. Re-arrest your own feelings, and go back to calm. You probably will still get in trouble, but the other kid is more likely to get in trouble with you. And you’re less likely to do medically significant damage anyway, if you just hit once instead of wailing on the bully for a solid minute, so, that’s better for everyone. If you actually really hurt the kid by accident, that’s a whole different ball game, you don’t really want that. You just want them to stop doing this in the future, that is all. Deterrence for the future is different from revenge. Revenge is impractical because of how extreme it is, it can create feuds, make things worse. He can avenge your revenge, if you are too harsh. But simple deterrence is a different story, when you’re not too harsh, and instead using just enough force to get the safety that you want.

devfuuu,

All reasonable and logical things. But someone bullied accumulates permanent damage for rest of their lives. A bully should expect full repercussions to the max. I sure wished a bunch of them would get run over by cars of broken some legs. They deserve it.

Hnazant, (edited )

I smoked my bully in front of everyone. He stewed for a few years, then told all the black kids I called them the n word behind their backs. That was the end of any sports for me. They hated me. Some 10 years later I left a party to got get a keg. When I got back luckily someone warned me before I got out of my car that he had arrived and stirred up the same shit. Yep, should’ve stopped at the one punch. Good lpt.

PopShark,

As I grow older I often forget how much kids and teens suck in how they treat each other sometimes

lightnsfw,

do it quickly, decisively and cleanly, and then stop.

I once punched a dude that was fucking with me in the mouth right in the middle of science class while the teacher had her back to us. He just sat there with a stunned look on his face and stopped. Later after school I ran into him coming from the other direction while I was leaving and he was yelling threatening shit while we were approaching each other. I just kept quiet and kept walking towards him and when I got within speaking distance he said something like “you like punching people in the mouth?” and I was just like “yeah” and kept walking past him. I really thought he was going to attack me but he didn’t do anything and didn’t fuck with me after that.

ReCursing, in IDF be like
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That was funny when Cyanide And Happiness published it, before you added the political spin

TheDankHold,

Now it’s hilarious

FARTYSHARTBLAST, in Abort mission! We have been tricked!
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Too late! Run away!

ninjabard, in Everytime

The best bully defense is an overwhelming and unrelenting offense. Yes, I realize there are many reasons why bullies bully. As one who was bullied constantly up through middle school, the only thing that made them stop is when I lashed back. Not mediation; not getting teachers involved; not ultimatums. Make them regret choosing you as their target.

bruhduh,
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As someone that got bullied through middle and high school i relate strongly) but unrelenting offence don’t work when your bully have influential parents, in my case that was it, and i got labelled as near fricking war criminal, even though i was bullied middle schooler, but you’re absolutely right about common cases)

devfuuu,

If they believe someone is a criminal already then just escalate things and appear in their houses in the middle of the night while they are sleeping. Worse than a bully only supportive parents. They all deserve the same treatment.

bruhduh,
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Preach) 🙏🙌

drathvedro, (edited )

Sent two to ER, didn’t help. Damn kids have no self-preservation instinct, especially bullies for whom playing with fire is their entire thing.

In my opinion, the school is just a glorified daycare and it’s terrible at it. Kids are inherently dumb and because they are dumb they are cruel. And, worst thing of all, is that they take example from others so putting them up together is the worst idea possible. Kids should be surrounded by adults, not other kids. I will do my best to prevent mine from going to school, or, at the very least, make sure they attend a smaller one with reduced classes. Less kids = less problems.

glomag, (edited ) in Fuxk Zionism too
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Sarcasmo220, in Everytime

When I was in middle school I got into at least two fights in an outdoor stage that was in plain view from all the windows in the admin office. No security, teachers, or anyone else ever noticed.

I’d like to think it was more because they were these small fights where no one got seriously hurt, rather than the staff not caring at all.

JustMy2c, in Fuxk Zionism too

ANTI ZIONISM FTW

Grayox,
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Stalinwolf, (edited ) in Guys I won!!!
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I know plenty of people dumb enough to take this as proof. I worked with a young guy a few years back who was standing idly by while I discussed PCs and malware with another co-worker. Idle guy joins the conversation to tell us how just recently he avoided some malware himself after receiving a popup from Microsoft saying his PC was infected. The popup included a number on the screen, which he called.

Relieved to have Microsoft looking out for him, buddy calls the number and follows instructions to give the person on the other end remote access. After which, the malware is allegedly removed, and he’s ordered to fork over $100 USD for the services rendered. Still relieved just to have Microsoft looking out for him like this, he forks over his fucking credit card information to pay for work. He finished the story with this very serious nod. A nod that said I really dodged a bullet there.

Poor blessed soul.

ShimmeringKoi, in Everytime
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This also applies to international politics

UnverifiedAPK, (edited ) in Abort mission! We have been tricked!

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ShaunaTheDead, in Everytime
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I currently work part-time as a bus driver and I just wanna say that it's incredibly hard to determine who is right or wrong when you didn't see what happened and you're just going by what each kid says. If you only see the tail end of a fight, you might wrongfully think the kid retaliating is the bully. 99% of the time it's easier to just separate the kids and/or punish them both equally since it's impossible to determine who the victim and the perpetrator is. It sucks, it feels really bad, but that's the reality of the situation.

teejay,

This may have been the unfortunate reality 20 years ago. But security cameras are cheap and ubiquitous. If it’s on school property (including school busses), then this should be simple. Separate the kids, review the footage, and punish the kid who started it. The one who didn’t start it gets an apology and assurances that they’re safe and it won’t happen again. The whole “punish them both equally” is insane and sociopathic.

Natanael,

The worst kind of bullies will just learn what the cameras are going to capture and not

anonono,

do you think the schools have the resources to “launch an investigation” every time there’s a fight? you may end up with one side of the story anyways, that’s ridiculous. don’t ask from a school stuff with what the justice system struggles.

bruhduh, (edited )
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Most of the time teachers don’t care when kid is bullied, i mean long time ago, when i was in school teachers ignored bullies, saying that they’re just playing, when quiet kids got beat up, but when quiet kids retaliate, just like in the meme) teachers come to help) i kinda get it that teachers don’t want trouble and when quiet kids endures, teacher won’t intervene even if quiet kids gonna ask the teacher, but bully won’t gonna endure and gonna screech all over when getting beat up, so i kinda understand why teachers side with bully most of the time, p.s i was quiet kid)

ShaunaTheDead,
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The thing is that if someone is bothering you, then you need to go to the teacher. If you set a precedent that one kid is bothering you, then the teacher is more likely to believe you if you ever snap and hit your bully they'll be more understanding. But if you never say anything and then suddenly snap, then obviously it looks from the outside like you're the bully.

lightnsfw,

If you tell then you’re a narc and everyone will think less of you anyway. The only thing that works is standing up for yourself which, thanks to zero-tolerance policies, is no longer an option.

EvolvedTurtle,

I swear in 5-6th grade It often felt like the teachers themselves bullied me

bruhduh,
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It didn’t felt like that, it was like that, coming from personal experience, I’ve finished college and enrolled to university and soon will be getting diploma, and I’ve tried to go to school and college where i was, and you know what, it’s rarely in your whole life that you can see such rude people, they called me alot of slurs, implied that I’m couldn’t make it (as they always told me) and praised bullies that was studiying with me in college and school and dropped out of university

_cnt0, in Everytime

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  • funkless_eck,

    real life don’t always go like that though. Hard to fight back when three guys hold you down and punch you in the diaphragm. I was 11, they were 14.

    Sometimes it’s better just to stay alive and unharmed, even if it means you’re afraid.

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  • Rediphile,

    Lol what do you mean by 3 kids ‘came at me’? Because kicking someone in the nuts for walking towards you sort of seems like provoking a fight.

    funkless_eck,

    I’m not saying you’re lying I’m saying that in the majority of cases, bullying isn’t solved by kicking a random kid in the groin.

    in some cases it might actually make things worse, as people might be out for revenge, or cause you to become a social pariah, or even get into trouble with the police.

    laverabe,

    ah, the Ender Wiggin’s strategy. The Art of grade school War. A++

    AstridWipenaugh,

    I got physically attacked on the playground pretty much every day for years in elementary school. I feared my parents more than the attackers, so I took my lumps and never fought back. The teachers didn’t care. One day I had enough. Grabbed the kid punching me, threw him to the ground, and kicked him a couple dozen times. He had bruises on his arms, legs, and torso and probably a few bruised ribs. The principal told me that fighting is never ok, but she didn’t see it so couldn’t say if there was a fight or not and warned me against getting into any fights in the future because she’d probably see those… First time any staff stood up for me. No problem though, every one of those kids left me alone and never bothered me again.

    Emma_Gold_Man,

    You had an uncommonly principled principal.

    KingThrillgore, in this is why I am fat
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    mmmm cholesterol

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