From an European perspective, it has always been a point of divergence with my American friends and colleagues. They always want the fattier, more sugar-full version arguing there’s more taste and it’s “real food”, but in our point of view it taste like junk and don’t compete a second with a home-made traditional one (and are pricier !).
Can’t speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I’ve lived Domino’s is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
That’s my point about Italy having better ingredients. The assembling of the ingredients is the issue. This is why authentic Italian-American pizza is the best. The bougie places shell out for imported ingredients and cook them in the American style.
I have not been to Italy, but I have made several of the authentic recipes used as reference in “Modernist Pizza”. I know it’s called modernist, but they go back to the roots before rebuilding.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys food history and techniques regardless of their desire to cook at home.
And you really think Domino’s is better? I believe the quality of the ingredients used are very, very different. With Domino’s specifically I only had bad experience and only in Europe, but when I was in NYC I tried some slice of NY style pizza and it was ok. But for me it was just a normal pizza like thousands I can have randomly around Italy.
It was authentic pizza that convinced me it’s true people eat with their eyes. Just deeply off putting and lacking in symmetry.
Of course it’s better if I put on the completely serious no fun hat. One is a chain the other is not. No such thing as a chain that’s better than non-chain. One is all about consistency and cost-cutting whereas the other is constantly judged solely on quality, usually with only a single shot at it.
Just this month I was there and the pizza is a different concept there to be sure.
Street pizzas of thinly sliced zucchini or potato covering bread rounds with olive oil. That’s pizza in Rome.
Focaccia bread like crust with some anchovies and potatoe? Pizza.
Neapolitan style is just a different style again, but the theme is dough is not the delivery agent, it is the primary purpose. The dough is the important bit, with toppings being intended to enhance subtle flavors for it.
Italian pizza is most similar in American expectations of food typically found there, to flatbread dishes. It’s flatbread with some stuff on top to accent it. There is no cheese on most of the pizza I had in the various parts of Italy I was in. Cheese was not an expected component. Healthy or at least flavorful variations on additions to the dough are the goal.
Whether you are in Sardinia, Calabria, or Rome; pizza is pizza dough with local additives.
I have seen French fries on top of pizza in Sardinia, and this was called there “American pizza” :)
When I was in Venice I only tried a Diavolo at a local restaurant. It certainly could be my American expectations but nothing amazed me about it; definitely feel like a bit more could be done to mesh the ingredients. Or, maybe my American brain just craved sweeter, cheesier stuff.
Then again, I went to Germany and the bread there was fantastic compared to America, so unless they boarded the sugar train it feels like there must be something that can be done right with good ingredients.
Venice is a hard place. Pretty much every restaurant is a tourist trap. For good food it is better to have different appetizer sized things in bars and trattorias. Didn’t find a single sit down classical restaurant with good food for reasonable price.
I dunno, it’s kinda rolling the dice. You can get really lucky sometimes. Even if the person doesn’t necessarily care about the stuff, they pick up what other people say, and would know what gets bought the most. That’s better than nothing at times.
And then you can get really lucky and find someone that knows their shit.
So it never hurts to ask, though you may get an actual eye roll lol
I worked at a mom and pop hardware store in college. I learned more practical information there than I did in school. I even got good enough to sell power tools, mowers, and chainsaws. We didn’t get commission or anything like that but it was a point of pride to be able to answer customers questions and make a sale.
I don’t run a directly customer facing department anymore, but when I ran electronics I got to be both the employee that didn’t know much, and the one that tells you more than you asked for.
I went to college for network admin, but never actually landed a career in it because COVID hit right after I graduated. I’ve done a bit of everything with computers and can speak to a lot of things.
But I haven’t used every electronic device we sold or have even basic knowledge of some of them, so I had to fall back on “Well, a lot of people buy this one, so there’s probably something nice happening there.”
“One of the most exciting points for me has been was when a 40 year old man gave his life to Jesus on the Alpha Awayday and was then healed of a 25 year condition plus an injured ankle.”
BUT THERE IS SOME REALLY GOOD CURRY IN THE UK BECAUSE SOME CONQUERED PEOPLES WERE COERCED TO THE OLD IMPERIAL CORE TO TRY TO ECONOMICALLY SURVIVE SO TAKE THAT frothingfash
I didn’t even deny anything specific about the colonially seized food; I was reflecting some very loud seething that got brought up during older dunks on jellied eels or beans on toast.
They weren’t wrong about jellied eels being the only protein the working class could afford, hence why they stopped eating that crap as soon as they could afford anything else.
Beans on toast with ketchup on the other hand is as indefensible as percolated coffee; there’s easier ways to use those same ingredients to make something that isn’t awful.
The sad thing is that well made websites can be a beautiful thing. But with the amount of ads they ruin that experience. And by enabling read mode all that website design that came up in the last year’s is gone again
It is possible to have a well designed website with ads. Unfortunately, once you start using analytics, you can figure out how to “tweak” your design to increase engagement with ads, thereby increasing revenue.
Before long, your well designed website is a crappy website because that brings in the bacon.
memes
Oldest
This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.