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MeowZedong, in It's funnt because it's true
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Sure, it was for spices, definitely not for money.

It was a different time. We don’t do that anymore!

JustMy2c,

Don’t get high off your own supply… Still true, we import and export more as we consume.

MeowZedong,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But those trade relationships are definitely equitable these days, right?

…right??

letsgocrazy,

Like, we bought and sold spice… For money.

People obviously wanted spice and paid for it.

That’s how trade and industry work. We didn’t just bring back exotic rocks.

sexeducation,

You should read some educational books, maybe try some Marx ones before you grow up some hair

ByteWizard,

It’s good to read Marx books, but history books are better. That way you can see examples of how socialism always fails due to human corruption.

JustMy2c,

Isn’t Marx the one that never worked nor had any money his entire life? Yup!

Stumblinbear, in Get Bread Get Dead
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

I’d say luck will sometimes make you rich, and being good at what you do will sometimes make you rich. Being good at what you do and also lucky has more of a chance of making you rich

It’s *usually not entirely luck, you generally have to sort of know what you’re doing

TimeSquirrel, (edited ) in They don't know which plumbing fixtures are better or worse do you think a plumber would work here?
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

This is why I ask the Fediverse for home improvement tips first. Y'all will never steer me wrong. Plus my electrical breaker box doubles as a nice little space heater now, it's so warm!

interdimensionalmeme,

You can save copper by using the ground wire as a neutral

bobs_monkey,

Oh dear

interdimensionalmeme,

They both connect to the same place anyway !!

bobs_monkey,

The electrician in me is twitching lol

Vode_An,

👑

Dropped your crown king, thanks for not being an entitled boomer forcing minimum wage workers to spoon feed information to you like a baby pretending to be a handyman.

jaybone,

You are making friends today.

Vode_An,

The ones being alienated weren’t worth having.

Vode_An, (edited ) in Cope harder pasta eaters/s

Please take pity on the Italians, they sent their best to America and now they are trying their best.

GreenTeaRedFlag,

I had to eat in that shitty country for a bit this summer, I will show them the kindness they showed me.

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There is an addon “activate reader view” that can force it if its not officially supported, sometimes works.

It is in my Android collection

nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN, in It's funnt because it's true

True, my dad calls food “spicy” and breaks out in a sweat when I put black pepper on.

grayman,

I recently discovered black pepper. It truly can make things spicey. But table ground? Ha!

I know someone allergic to capsaicin. I’ve seen him eat the mildest salsa and turn red. He also sweats to black pepper. Maybe your father has a similar allergy.

ImFresh3x, (edited )

What is “ black pepper?” Isn’t that just a grind size?

I didn’t know people used preground at home. Not any cheaper and tastes like actual dust. With a regular old pepper mill you can change that grind size easily. And no matter the grind size it doesn’t have the ability to make food “spicy” as in “hot.”

grayman,

I grind my own pepper too, but aka coarse ground is much larger pieces of ground pepper. is the die size. You technically could grind it coarse yourself, but you’d have to sift it and only keep the bigger pieces. Here’s an example: Amazon Brand - Happy Belly Black Pepper, Coarse Ground, 18 Oz a.co/d/8e7AWHT But you should be able to find it at any big grocery store. I get it at Costco. It’s great for rubs and spicing up stuff just a bit. I think it’s the oil that remains in the course pieces as opposed to the smaller grind that allows the oil tooxidize quickly, which mutes the heat in the oil. I learned about it when I got into smoking meat. It’s used to crust a smoked brisket.

ILikeBoobies,

Black pepper is a spice, over using it can make things spicy

Knusper, (edited ) in It's funnt because it's true

Fucks me up as a German, too. Globalization gave us all kinds of tasty spices, but go to any public event and you’d be convinced our greatest culinary achievement is sausage with tomato ketchup and curry powder.

pufferfischerpulver, (edited )

Curry, you said it yourself, a very exotic spice mix!

Was möchten Sie denn sonst noch Sie Schnösel?

Knusper,

Also wenn du mich so fragst, hätte ich gerne so Döner-style Fladenbrot mit Kümmel, Schwarzkümmel und Senfkörnern im Teig. Das dann von innen bestrichen mit etwas Erdnussmus. Dann das übliche Döner-Grünzeug rein, aber kurz scharf in einem Wok angebraten und in Soja-Sauce getaucht. Darüber frisch gemalener bunter Pfeffer und ein guter Esslöffel kaltgepresstes Rapsöl. Und dann Champignons geschnetzelt + ordentlich angebraten und mit Gyros-Gewürzen mariniert noch darin einbetten.

Ich denke, das sollte man gut in so einem Imbisswagen zubereiten können. 🙃

Also habe jetzt natürlich übertrieben. Keine Ahnung, ob das noch gut ist. Aber habe tatsächlich schonmal so Champignon-Geschnetzeltes in einem Fladenbrot gemacht und das war extrem geil. Seither hätte ich tatsächlich gerne mal einen vollwertigen Döner damit…

crystal,

Also da greife ich lieber zur Currywurst

pufferfischerpulver,

Mehr grün versiffte Bourgeoisie konntest du jetzt nicht in einen Beitrag packen, wie?

(Klingt köstlich)

letsgocrazy,

British invention anyway. Curry powder from the British occupying forces in Berlin.

Gern gesehen.

lugal,

But “Currywurst” (curry sausage) was invented in Berlin. Indian wouldn’t use curry powder without vegetables in this way, or currypower at all (correct me if I’m wrong)

Knusper,

I’m no expert either, but yeah, I believe the lazy method of making the curry dish (Indian, Thai etc.) is to use curry paste. Our curry powder barely resembles the taste of the curry dish. In particular, it’s lacking tons of chili. 🫠

lugal,

I was once explained that curry in the Indian sense is a rice vegetable dish with a lot of spices. To make it easier for the Brits, the powder was developed so that you don’t need all the fresh spices.

emergencyfood,

Curry in India is usually a side-dish served with rice or chapathi (flatbread). It contains a lot of vegetables, various herbs and spices, and optionally fish or meat. But the rice itself is not a part of the curry. Also we do use curry powder, mainly when we don’t have time or space to mix the spices properly.

lugal,

Thanks!

letsgocrazy,

Did you read the entire sentence “the British occupying forces in Berlin”

British. In Berlin.

Who do you think had lots of curry powder?

lugal,

Curry powder is a British invention, Currywurst is German, only possible with the British but still a German invention

letsgocrazy,

I understand that’s what people need to believe.

Perhapsjustsniffit,

I agree there. German food is very…white. That is simply the best descriptor.

slackassassin,

You mean like beige in appearance or…

Sagifurius,

it’s not. you’ve met bad cooks.

tryptaminev,

i mean the good stuff is not typically served at these events. I’m thinking roulade and gulash that need to simmer for multiple hours.

Also in central Europe it is difficult to consider foods distinct to one country. Most of Polish, Czech and German cuisine overlap a lot.

Knusper,

Well, yeah, to some degree these are just very easy to prepare. To some degree, they’re just the lowest common denominator, though, which is what I’m mainly annoyed by. Lots of these simpler foods could be easily improved by adding some spices, or we could even adopt some of the many street foods in Eastern Asia, to bring in more variety…

grue, (edited )

As an American, going to any German-themed public event (read: Oktoberfest and uhh… that’s about it) convinces me that your greatest culinary achievement is sausage with mustard and sauerkraut. Not too shabby, TBH.

Knusper,

I don’t know, if it’s more popular in other regions of Germany, but I’ve only had plain sauerkraut once in my life. 🙃

Only real dish involving sauerkraut around here is Krautschupfnudeln:
https://img.chefkoch-cdn.de/rezepte/1876371305102939/bilder/532029/crop-960x640/krautschupfnudeln.jpg

And well, by roasting the sauerkraut, it caramelizes a little bit and some of the vinegar dissipates, so it doesn’t actually taste as sauer anymore.

Kerb, (edited )
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

we also had schupfnudeln with sauerkraut, but with chopped bacon added.

asside from that, i also know mashed potatos with kassler (cured pork),
Leberwurst(loose sausage that is usualy used as a spread)
and blutwurst(blood sausage)
boiled in sauerkraut, as a Christmas classic.

(both sausages were loose and squeezed out of the casing)

i also remember grandpa snacking on cold raw plain sauerkraut for dinner.
but he was the only person i know that ate it like that.

but i dont remember any other dishes ive eaten with sauerkraut in it.

Sagifurius,

no, i do that too, but grandpa is where i picked the habit up from. it’s crunchy tasty homemade sauerkraut though, not that store-bought shit.

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Ublock is down there in the trenches battling face to face with the ads for our sake and you dare to insult them? Reader view would be disappointed in you.

Laticauda, (edited ) in They don't know which plumbing fixtures are better or worse do you think a plumber would work here?

I mean sometimes they do know, they’re individuals after all with varying levels of knowledge and experience. If they say they don’t know I thank them and move on, but plenty of times they’ve been able to answer my questions. Seems a bit patronizing to assume that just because they work at a store like that it means they don’t know anything and can’t answer questions. I actually literally asked an employee a question about a plumbing fixture in a big box store recently and, shocker, they were knowledgeable and had the answer to my question.

LifeOfChance,

Exactly plus they’re more likely to know and hear things about products. What tradesmen hasn’t stopped and talked a person ear off about their go to stuff and why it is. There’s plenty of tradesmen who know less than the person at the store as well.

theletterw, in Cope harder pasta eaters/s

Baffled at the plenty of toppings and lots of cheese notes. Maybe it’s just Dominoes in Canada but I’m fairly certain there’s less cardboard in the box it came in. To each their own I guess.

Vode_An,

different supplier than the supply region I’m in, so I’ll take your word for it.

Maybe it’s part of the MAID plan? Easier to convince people if they don’t have good cheese to remind them that it’s worth going on until that next greasy slice.

BruceTwarzen, in They don't know which plumbing fixtures are better or worse do you think a plumber would work here?

That's pretty standard here. No one expects the answer of a plumber, but they usually help somewhat

dunz, in Prefect record to listen to when the significant other tells you to stop thinking about the Roman Empire.
@dunz@feddit.nu avatar

Ex Deos The Thirteen Years Of Nero is a great album about the roman empire as well. Hell, all Ex Deus albums are great albums about the roman empire 😃

adam_y, in It's funnt because it's true
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Dunno, have you ever had a curry in Birmingham on the mile?

I went with two American colleagues and one of them couldn’t finish his ‘medium’ heat dish because they said it was too spicy.

Raz,

That may be so, but curry isn’t exactly a real British dish. It’s Indian food.

adam_y, (edited )
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Careful, that’s like saying that the guy who made it, who was born in the UK isn’t really British either.

Pretty much all food is imported.

As someone else mentioned. The Tikka Masala was invented in Britain.

Italian pizza, the most Italian of dishes, didn’t exist until America was ‘discovered’ and tomatoes brought back from the new world.

Same with the Irish and potatoes.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Careful, that’s like saying that the guy who made it, who was born in the UK isn’t really British either.

Umm what so you mean by ‘the guy who made it’? Curry has existed in Indian subcontinent, in various varieties, for hundreds of years. It wasn’t first concocted in UK in 1960s.

adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

I think you misunderstand.

What I mean is the man who cooked the curry and served it to me and my two companions. He’s of Asian heritage but was born and raised in the UK.

Does that mean that he’s not really British?

What if he sees himself as British. Is he then culturally appropriating Asian food?

Because that’s the argument being used about the food too. That dish was cooked in a kitchen in Birmingham. It has Asian heritage too. But is it not the British food?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Oh great, pedantry!

When people say that’s not a British dish, they are talking about origin of the dish. Not where it was made today.

There are thousands of restaurants serving pizza in India. I’m still not going to call pizza an Indian dish.

adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Oh fuck off.

I’m making a point about the international nature of food, and the way in which it relates to identity, and you seem determined to take it in bad faith to truss up your own weak argument.

Ok, here, have a win. You’re right. You are so totally right. Well done. Enjoy the glory.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

This much seething and malding isn’t good for your health. It might affect your reading comprehension even more.

lugal,

We are talking about importing spices to use them in the country. It doesn’t even matter where the cook is from. Even the most Indian guy can’t prepare an Indian meal without the ingredients

soggy_kitty,

Chicken tikka masala is a British dish

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Possibly. It’s a disputed claim. And with 48 different recipes.

OhNoMoreLemmy,

Most curries you can get in the UK were invented there.

As a quick rule of thumb, if it looks like it has gravy or thick sauce someone from India wouldn’t recognise it

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

What?

Mate, we’ve been making gravys and thick sauces before the Brits came along. Especially people in coastal regions who use coconut in nearly everything.

emergencyfood,

I think British people have a very different definition of gravy - more like meat juice thickened with flour and optionally some other stuff like caramel and onions. As I understand, they don’t put vegetables, herbs or spices.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Well, they’re missing out.

soggy_kitty,

Yeah exactly my thinking, Indians would be disgusted by an englishes northerners gravy. They have no idea

RupeThereItIs,

It’s almost like, in such a huge country, there exist people with different tastes.

I, an American, went to India once. The hotel restaurant had a breakfast buffet. On one side was a glorious Indian spread. The other was some nauseating English breakfast spread, with like baked beans (that’s for summer BBQs not breakfast!).

Anyway me and my buddy head straight to the good side, when the hotel staff woman came running over to warn us that it was too spicy. She gently walked us to the gross English food. We confirmed with her, numerous times, that the Indian food was very spicy. We then dug in on the eatible food (the Indian side) and made a friend with the hotel staff lady.

It was somewhat spicy, but amazing.

Some Americans think black pepper is too spicy, some eat ghost peppers as a light snack, I am in between.

zalgotext,

It’s almost like, in such a huge country, there exist people with different tastes.

followed up by

The other was some nauseating English breakfast spread, with like baked beans (that’s for summer BBQs not breakfast!).

I really hope that’s irony

scubbo,

I, an American

Irony, you say?

zalgotext,

eatible

Yeah, they’re not actually American

feedum_sneedson,

It won’t be.

adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

And then everyone clapped, right?

Coach, in They don't know which plumbing fixtures are better or worse do you think a plumber would work here?

There’s always a retired plumber or two working in the plumbing section. Maybe not other sections, but definitely plumbing. Good luck out there, DIYers!

Vode_An,

Not at the one I worked at. I claimed to be whatever the person asked me about though because entitled customers who can’t do basic research deserve wrong answers pulled from my ass.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, proud of that too.

HorseWithNoName,

entitled customers who can’t do basic research deserve wrong answers

Yes everyone should know everything at all times, and whoever doesn’t is entitled for asking questions.

fmstrat,

Yea, plumbing was a poor choice for title, hah. Every home store in places I’ve lived always seems to have a knowledgeable person.

panicnow,

The city I live in has two big box stores. One has a retired plumber in the plumbing section. I’ll drive further to go to that one and wait patiently for his advice.

kautau, in It's funnt because it's true

In this thread: people that think spices = spicy

tryptaminev,

i have yet to find a main dish that is not getting better when adding pepper.

Honytawk,

Pancakes, the sweet ones

tryptaminev,

still better with a hint of pepper.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Shit I made gingerbread cookies with a hit of cayenne to really make the ginger pop.

1847953620,

sus

AlolanYoda,

English is a very confusing language to have this conversation in.

Also using “hot” as a measure of how spicy it is and also using it to talk about the actual temperature of the food.

kautau,

True, as a native English speaker, English sucks lol. There are a bunch of similar words but their meaning is different and they’re only to be used in certain contexts.

camelbeard, (edited )

Yeah cloves and bay leaves are pretty common in old recipes. For example check out

…transparent.com/…/recipe-the-oldest-dish-in-the-…

That recipe should come out like this miljuschka.nl/…/Frietje-zuurvlees-Daphne-Dekkers.…

1847953620,

Providing links to solidify the existence of two of them…

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

Cloves can do a thing if used right. Bay leaves, on the other hand, you cannot convince me add anything to anything.

scubbo,
Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

je ne sais quoi is what one of the “chefs” said it adds.

Do you know what that means? Do you? It directly translates as ’ I don’t know what ’ Bay leaves are bullshit

1847953620,

get wrecked, noob

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

Bet I’ve been feeding a family for longer than you’ve been alive.

1847953620,

lmao who asked

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

You live off chicken tenders and box mac and cheese. Fuck off.

1847953620,

I could probably still cook a better version of either of those 🤣

cashew,

Bay leaves contain several different fatty acids which, when cooked, are transferred into your food. Fatty acids have a large effect on the flavour and nutrition of food. Next time to cook plain rice, add a few bay leaves to the pot and you will notice the change in flavour.

MrBusiness,

Also not many soups I don’t add bay leaves to.

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