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general_kitten, in Trig

if you were a more interesting person you could make up a use for them

slackassassin,

Best take right here. Trig shows up a lot when you actually do stuff. Woodworking, programming, physics, art, music, philosophy. Math shit is universal human language.

antrosapien,

Math shit is universal human language

slackassassin,

Math shit is universal human language. True.

But the language part of it is pretty human.

rambling_lunatic,

The other fields I get (trig is insanely useful), but how the bloody hell does one use trig functions in philosophy? Are we gonna be triangulating the border of science to solve the demarcation problem?

slackassassin,

Math is philosophy, and trig does a very good job of describing the world we experience. The unit circle, right angles, pythagorean theorem, sinusoidal damping, etc, are all pretty philosophical concepts. What else could the be.

Aasikki,

I like doing stuff but my adhd literally won’t let me learn trig 🤣 my brain will just shut down and start daydreaming of literally anything else.

slackassassin, (edited )

Don’t tell yourself that, unless you’re just not that interested. It takes more work and catering some creative solutions, but it is worth it. I got an engineering degree before I was ever even diagnosed or medicated.

Aasikki,

I’m totally not interested in math stuff, like at all. If I need it for what I’m trying to do, or if it greatly helps me with it, I still end up learning it anyways though :) People often say that learning in practice is the best way and I feel like that is even much more true for me personally. I’m goal oriented af, and I make all those goals myself based on what I want to do. If I really really really want to do something, there’s nothing that will stand in my way, I’ll find a way. I’m the type of person to get frustrated and say “fuck this I give up”, only to be back at it after 30 mins because giving up isn’t actually something that exists in my head haha.

So no need to worry about me telling myself that. I guess I was thinking from the perspective of just studying it because of studying it, which yeah is basically impossible for me unless it’s just something I’m really interested in and I’m stuck browsing Wikipedia at 3AM. Thanks for the encouragement though, nice stranger! I really do appreciate it.

WitchHazel,

Honestly. If you’ve ever played a videogame, it will inevitably require trig.

spikespaz,

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  • WitchHazel,

    I’m might be splitting hairs, but I would argue by virtue of using a machine that uses trig, an individual is using trig, though abstractly. I’m sure you’re brother is dumb, yes.

    Kase, in Dear A-holes

    14 calories per serving

    supimacat, (edited ) in Trig

    did you know 1209 is a prime number? or maybe not, I’m just a cat :3

    Rakonat,

    TIL cats are really bad at math.

    supimacat,
    prime_number_314159,

    1209 is 3 times 13 times 31, and cats are better at typing than they are at math.

    In base 10, the sum of the digits of any number that is divisible by 3 is also divisible by 3, so 1+2+0+9=12, implies 1209 is divisible by 3.

    Likewise, 1001 is divisible by 13, so if you split a number in base 10 every 3 digits, and subtract/add alternating sets of numbers, if the result is divisible by 13, the original number is, too. 209-1 is 208, which is obviously divisible by 13, so 1209 is, too.

    Divisibility by 31 in base 10 is harder to check, but 999998 is divisible by 31, as is 999999999999999, so you can just split the number every 15 digits, and add those together, and if the sum is divisible by 31… I’m talking about math to a cat.

    supimacat,

    did you know that adding up all the divisors of 1209 and swapping the last two digits gives you a number that can be represented as the sum of two cubes in two different ways? or maybe not, I’m just a cat :3

    RushingSquirrel, in Trig

    One day, while working on a website, I was wondering how to calculate a specific point in a graph. After googling, the answer was by using sine and cosine. Mind blew away, I had always thought I’d never use them.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    And guess what? You found it out without having to memorize the process until you knew it by heart.

    zerofk,

    Apparently, they didn’t know it by heart. If they had, they wouldn’t have had to spend all that time searching.

    rhadamanth_nemes,

    The point being that memorizing complex math is pointless unless you’re using it for some sort of day to day.

    Liz,

    Not really. The point of getting really good at it in your teenage years is so that when it shows up 30 years later you have a vauge idea of what you’re looking at and can figure it out again. If you had only a surface level understanding to begin with, it’ll all be totally gone by the time you need it again, and very few people have the gumption to teach themselves a subject from scratch.

    AlDente,

    Complex? It’s just Sohcahtoa my friend

    I thought this was early high-school level stuff.

    AngryCommieKender, (edited )

    Instructions unclear. Toe is still dry, dick stuck in super soaker.

    atkion,

    Since becoming an adult it has become increasingly obvious to me that early high-school level stuff is impossibly complex for a significant chunk of the population.

    AlDente,

    It’s unfortunate that you are correct. However, when it comes to memorization, trig seems pretty tame. That one mnemonic just about covers it all. Even multiplication tables seem like a larger memorization effort to me.

    Lazz45, (edited )

    The reason they drill it in to the extent that they do is so that you have a foundational understanding of the underlying math on which to build new knowledge. If you show up in calc 1 in college without remembering even the basic concepts you were previously taught in things like trig…that can really bite you in the ass. My teacher LOVED pulling out classic substitutions for Secant, Cosecant, and cotangent (No, i didnt outright remember them from Trig, but I had seen them, and that made refreshing much easier). Also these concepts then form the basis of many other fields such as physics (electricity/magnetism, kinetic motion, optics, etc.), chemistry (quantum, MO theory, and things relating to the physics side of why chemistry occurs), and many of the graphing concepts used in engineering/stem only make sense if you have the foundational understanding of what integration/derivation are. Those stem from understanding how to graph complex functions by hand (like we did in trig) so that when you are doing it later with assistance, you still GRASP what is going on.

    Yes its not perfect, and yes for people who never need that later in life it can suck. However, I would make the argument it is better to have more of your population educated to a higher standard than what is needed in daily life, than to only give that to those who are aware enough at a young age to actively seek said education

    Pyr_Pressure,

    Personally once you got to the Cos Sin Tan and Log part of math in grade 11 and 12 no amount of practice ever improved my understanding of the underlying principles. Once most of the work gets done in the calculator or computer I just lost sense of what was happening in the background. It’s just turned into put number in calculator and get answer. But that’s probably just a failing of the local school systems methods or the individual teachers maybe.

    EmergMemeHologram,

    That’s where math starts getting spicy though!

    You gain a new appreciation for logarithms when you do statistics.

    Lazz45,

    There will be those that do and dont get the “nitty gritty” of the theory side of the math. Those people sometimes become math majors. Normal people (joking, dont be mad math majors), need more than simply the theory side of the math and actually need to see/perform the application side of things. I never once “understood” the lesson in math class when we go over the equations with variables only. I only truly began to learn the material and be able to use it once we got to the example problems. We would do multiple in class and then I would understand how to literally go through the problem and perform the math that was expected of me on the homework, and subsequently the test. There is tons of stuff i know how to use in math, but by no means understand WHY it came to be, or HOW its works for the realm of mathematics. I wanna know how this math can help me solve real life problems, problems I will face in industry, or even just a cool way to apply math in the real world. Not how it will be used in research to find new types of math we wont be able to apply for 70 years.

    It was pretty funny being in calculus in college. I was in a class with mostly engineers who were also taking the exact same weed out courses, and nearly every day after the professor would finish showing us the theory side of the lesson, hands would shoot up and the question of, “What application does this have in real life or engineering? Like, how will I actually use this?” always got asked. So not “loving” the theory is by no means uncommon (we all wished for an application focused version of the class to exist, for people like stem students who are not into the math theory lol), but I still see the value in having it presented so that you can have a more foundational understanding instead simply going through the motions

    blind3rdeye, in Trig

    Alternatively, you could be this guy.

    caseyweederman,

    Woah. I was really expecting the “will we ever use this in life”/“you won’t but some of the smarter kids might” strip, which is also SMBC.

    Adalast,

    I aspire to be this man when I am that old.

    NBJack, in Fast casual

    Damn…what is this, r/seattle?

    Don’t forget the fact that despite it’s just a cheeseburger, it’s named “The Vonderbilt Wonder”, “Halfsie Pattsies”, or “Edmonton the Second”. Ideally on a menu so scant on details it’s hard to tell the french fries from the extra avocado.

    darkpanda,

    The truly fancy places call ‘em “frites”, not French fries. That way they can charge an extra three bucks for the fanciness.

    Nfamwap,

    And the menu doesn’t show the price like:

    Cheeseburger £13

    Instead you get:

    Cheeseburger 13

    So cool and minimalist.

    rambling_lunatic, (edited )

    Reminds me of that one joke from What Men Think About.

    “In our restaurant, dry bread is called a crouton. It is still the same piece of slightly fried bread, but dry bread cannot cost 8 dollars, whereas a crouton can.”

    youtu.be/zVDCTuyMDLE?si=2Tw4NqVt89G_oCPR

    indepndnt, in Wishing you guys a happy civil war 2

    I keep getting more and more glad that I moved here.

    GardenVarietyAnxiety, in Wishing you guys a happy civil war 2

    But muh States’ Rights!

    Facebones,

    Until a republican doesn’t like that right, in which case TRAMPLE EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM WHERE’S DADDY FED 😭

    Beetschnapps, (edited )

    thenation.com/…/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1…

    “States rights”

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “n*****, . n*****, n*****” By 1968 you can’t say “ n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “ n*****.”

    cooopsspace, in Wishing you guys a happy civil war 2

    What are you gonna do? Insurrect the state next?

    Exusia, in Truly a moment of all time
    @Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

    I wasn’t sure if this joke was masterful writing, or bottom of the barrel.

    520,

    I mean with Cheeto-man the jokes just write themselves

    EmperorHenry, in Fast casual
    @EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I’d be okay with that if the money meant that the workers get a living wage and benefits. But that’s not how most business owners do things here

    WashedOver, (edited ) in Truly a moment of all time
    @WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

    My first thought was:

    “he’s quoting Hitler almost daily now, this isn’t setting off any red flags?”

    HurlingDurling,

    When people respond with no, or some sort of justification, thats when you know they also want this.

    Lianodel,

    My favorite version of this is when they try to lie about what he “meant,” only to then tell on themselves by saying something that’s still awful.

    Like with the recent “poisoning the blood” quote. I saw several people say he didn’t mean ALL immigrants. Okay? That’s still some racist shit. It’s not even lying about crime anymore, it’s straight-up eugenic garbage.

    FluffyPotato, in Colonial

    The animated version of that encounter: youtu.be/0bkJzpo-mNI?si=6nFUv3iptrcRldvW

    MrScottyTay, in Truly a moment of all time

    Giving them the benefit of the doubt, transformers transform to hide amongst the people, thus decieving them into not knowing they exist

    Blackmist, in Truly a moment of all time

    Bumblebee is the only good Transformers movie.

    You can ignore all the others, but this one is worth it.

    CitizenKong,

    Yep, so of course they pivoted back to Bayham for the sequel.

    gosling,
    @gosling@lemmy.world avatar

    The first two Bay movies hold a special place in my heart. They may not be good, but they’re enjoyable and cool as fuck

    thesorehead,

    3 sad better than 2. He lost me at 4. The Dinobots deserved so much better.

    Blackmist,

    The opening of the first one is actually really good. Just a shame about what came after.

    Wasn’t 2 completely fucked by the writers strike?

    gosling,
    @gosling@lemmy.world avatar

    First just felt the most realistic to me (probably because it had a lot of military scenes and was probably a Pentagon propaganda) and a lot of the interactions between the humans just made sense to me.

    2 wasn’t that bad imo because I only watched it for cool robot fights and a lot of the scenes were still memorable. Next ones get progressive worse, literally the only thing I remember is that they had Sentinel Prime, robot dinos, and robot knights. Felt like cash grabs

    Zoomboingding,
    @Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

    Really the only thing I remember about the first one is that after the movie was done, I realized I was on the edge of my seat basically all movie. It might be dumb, but it succeeds as an action movie.

    lemmy,

    When a decepticon has truck nuts walking up the pyramids, I was out…

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