Air cooling is just better
Air is better than water
Air is better than water
satans_crackpipe, The only true path to water cooling is eliminating the air gaps between your block and CPU surface via full submersion.
redcalcium, (edited ) Behold! A fully submerged PC!
https://lemmy.institute/pictrs/image/eb6bd3a3-1e82-4309-9508-78668459c8b0.jpeg
frezik, The patents expire soon, IIRC.
ornery_chemist, Just bought one of those brown monsters for a new build, can’t wait to try it
TopRamenBinLaden, The noctua air coolers work so well. As long as you don’t care about the station wagon color scheme I think it’s the best cooler for that price range by a large margin.
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Honytawk, That is why you have dust filters
ours, It’ll take dust over water any day of the week and weekends too.
SuiXi3D, I literally just installed an NHD-15 and it dropped my idle temps 10 degrees vs my old AIO. Load temps are about 5-10 degrees cooler, too.
c0mbatbag3l, Even cheaper models are incredibly capable.
zurohki, IMO, if you aren’t using at least a 360mm radiator there’s not a lot of point water cooling.
The point of water cooling is that you can transfer the heat from the heat producing component out to a large surface area by physically moving the hot liquid. 2x 360mm radiators give you a ton of cooling capacity. 1x 240mm? You can do almost as well for much less money with a really nice air cooler.
vithigar, I’d also offer that it allows you to dump all the heat outside the case and avoid warming other components (assuming you put the radiator on an exhaust fan). This is a benefit with any size of radiator.
Player2, Small form factor computers are a lot easier with water cooling. That way the GPU can be put right next to the motherboard, and the CPU radiator moved away from that area.
TonyToniToneOfficial, Noctua master race
okr765, NH-D15 supremacy
criticalthreshold, I love the sound of jet engines during morning boot-up.
randombullet, Cries in SFFPCs
Hard to tame a 5800X3D in a 8L case
MySwellMojo, I slapped an arctic 240mm in my Hyte Revolt 3. Had to… Change things up a bit though
okiloki, My GPU had a shitty blower cooler, switching to water-cooling made my system so much more quiet!
Blackmist, I don’t understand why they sell GPUs for up to $2000, and they still come with the same crappy fans we had on $150 cards.
Want watercooling? Have fun invalidating your warranty.
beefcat, (edited ) I don’t follow. The cooler designs on modern midrange and high end GPUs are way bigger and more elaborate than anything that has ever shipped on a $150 GPU.
RaoulDook, There are also great coolers that come on stock cards, you just have to pick one that isn’t shitty. No temp issues with my EVGA or Gigabyte cards that have huge heatsinks and 3 big fans on them.
TheAnonymouseJoker, Did you consider this earth shattering idea of replacing shitty stock fans with actually good fans? Or mounting atop good fans?
M500, Didn’t Linus tech tips do a video on this and find that water cooling doesn’t make much if any difference.
TheAnonymouseJoker, A preferable (1000x) source would be an actual expert, Gamers Nexus. He reviews cooling solutions and thermal pastes probably more than anyone else, and he benchmarks many models.
marcos, The entire computer is throttled into a power consumption you can sink through air coolers. So, unless you are overclocking something, it should always be enough. That will hold until companies start to design the components specifically for water cooling.
But the people claiming it can be quieter or thinner are quite right.
ryathal, Water cooling is just air cooling that moves the fan. If you have a crappy radiator, you aren’t going to get great cooling. Water is a great way to move heat, which is why we use it for cars, heating, and power production.
frezik, I wouldn’t cite LTT for much, but IIRC, that was only true to a point. The NHD-15 is great, but a lot of cases can’t fit one. Same with many other high end air coolers. It might also cool to the same temperature, but is also running the fans harder to get there.
Nika03, *NH-D15 🤓
sheogorath, It’s all fun and games until you want a beefy setup in an ITX form factor.
Obonga, Like i give a fuck what cools best. I want my system to look awesome and the AIO sure looks better imo. At the end of the day: build the PC that makes you happy.
Zerush, Some suggestions here, the first a good GPU that can run Cyberpunk or the Witcher III at 300 FPS
ilovesatan, Unless you need extra gpu cooling. Which I don’t so I’m a hurricane boy weeeeeeeeeeee
Aradia, The problem with Noctua is that you need a lot of space…
Honytawk, Because a water pump, water block on both the CPU and GPU and tons of tubes, don’t take up much space?
frezik, Big air coolers don’t fit because there isn’t enough height off the CPU inside the case. An O11 Dynamic (regular size) doesn’t fit an NH-D15, for example, but it fits water cooling with at least one regular thickness 360mm rad on top just fine. (And also one on the bottom, and a thin one on the side).
Aradia, (edited ) Imagine having a big Noctua on every component…
EDIT: I wanted a Noctua but with my two big GPUs, there is no space for a Noctua… and depends on which motherboard also includes water cooling tubes already built-in.
water cooling with space 2 jpg
Much more space on CPU (at least you see the RAM and other components), yeah, depends on how you built it. The PC can “breath”. When I said “you need a lot of space” I mean on the CPU, if your RAM and 2 GPU is all near there… all the heat gets concentrated.
ours, DIY Perks on YouTube did a beautiful machine with a Noctua cooler on a GPU. All with a nautical theme.
Aradia, (edited ) As I have more GPUs, inside the case it’s full of components and with a Noctua (if it even fills in) would be hard to “breath”. It’s not that difficult to understand…
pleb_maximus, The only reason I have water cooling is that I bought my pc used and it came with water cooling. I’m too lazy to change it. At least the RGB lights on the motherboard were switched off with a simple toggle in the BIOS.
ShitOnABrick, If it came with it. You may as well use it! Look into overclocking your cpu if you xanAio generally is wat more efficient than air coolers. Although I would never buy one myself. To much hassle
MiddledAgedGuy, Water cooling feels unnecessary and expensive. Like most of my hobbies. I don’t get this particular one, but I can appreciate why people might.
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