Shieldtoad,

When Americans make Mac and cheese does it usually only contain macaroni and cheese? Or do they add other things?

Here in Belgium we call it macaroni with ham and cheese because we put pieces of ham in it.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Depends on the region and sometimes ethnicity.

It’s actually considered cruel to have the white guy bring the mac to a black cookout because he’s likely going to get roasted for it.

cm0002,

Yea we put ham too, sometimes spam, sometimes bacon. It’s really versatile tbh. We even have other variations like Cheeseburger Macaroni that nearly crosses the line into its own dish.

But, I have never EVER heard of raisins going into it before and it sounds disgusting.

droans, (edited )

If done well, buffalo chicken mac and cheese is great, too.

Unfortunately most restaurants do a garbage job with it. They just add the chicken and hot sauce into the mac and cheese and let it sit in a pan until someone orders it. This needs to be made fresh when it’s ordered or it just turns into mediocre mush.

They all always screw up buffalo chicken dip, too. That’s even worse because it’s so easy to make right.

  • Rotisserie chicken
  • Hot sauce, half a cup to a full cup depending on what you like
  • Block of cream cheese
  • Bag of sharp cheddar.
  • Packet of ranch seasoning. Don’t use ranch dressing, it’ll make it too watery.
  • If you like blue cheese, grab a small block or, if you’re lazy, grab a little container.

Use two forks to shred up all the breast meat on the rotisserie. Make the shreds varying in consistency - some should be very fine, some should be normal shredded chicken, some should be little chunks.

Slice the cream cheese into small strips. If you’re using a block of blue cheese, remove the rind and crumble it. I like to use a knife for this because it’s quicker.

Grab a large pan. Throw the chicken and hot sauce in. Set it to medium and mix. When it starts simmering, add everything but the blue cheese. Mix it up until it’s all melted and combined. If you have blue cheese, add it now and keep mixing until you’re happy with it.

Turn off the stove. It’s ready now and you’re about to have some fantastic fucking buffalo chicken dip.

OZFive,

Well I know what I’m making this weekend! Thanks.

Cloaca,

My family (New Hampshire) typically add smoked cherry tomatoes to our mac and cheese.

Mostly an add in of one protein and one vegetable. When more items get added we just switch to the dish being a pasta or a casserole.

I will say that raisins make a great addition to a curried meatloaf.

get_off_the_phone,

Tuna and peas in my mac and cheese, please!

Sabre363,

This sounds fucking disgusting, I’d rather have the raisins.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Growing up poor is fun. Very similar to what we called tuna casserole.

  1. Box of elbow macaroni, cooked
  2. Can of cream of mushroom soup
  3. Can of tuna, drained
  4. Can of peas, drained

Dump. Mix. Consume.

I'm still poor, but I don't eat that shit.

Sabre363,

I grew up poor as well, and tuna casserole was a very common meal. But, the peas are an abomination.

Actually, now that I think about it, that might be why I hate peas so much.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Peas suck

get_off_the_phone,

Peas in my mouth please

scottywh,

Odd Todd certainly loved that recipe (and probably still does).

AngryCommieKender,

Traditional American Mac and Cheese is a dish that consist of macaroni noodles that have been baked in a bechamel based cheese sauce and topped with bread crumbs.

If we put anything else in it, we tell you, just as you do with the addition of ham to the name.

stolid_agnostic,

In my observation, if it comes from a box, it’ll be simple. If it’s made from scratch then people go more gourmet.

gentooer,

I’ve never heard of macaroni met hesp, where are you from?

poinck,

I just want to confirm, that raisins do not belong anywhere! I rather have pineapples in my cheesecake.

newIdentity,

Why does everyone seam to hate raisins (and olives)

They are fucking delicious

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Satanists.

AyuTsukasa,

Well for me it’s because grapes are my favorite fruit so it’s like everything I love about a grape is sucked out of it.

newIdentity,

I love both

nikolai,

Nah, don’t mix them up, olives are great, especially well sourced ones. Raisins are just an unpleasant surprise, every time.

newIdentity, (edited )

*pleasant

I think y’all just ate some shitty raisins once and now hate them forever

Ravaja,

What even is a good raisin? A grape?

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Grapes are so much better than raisins, holy shit. And so god damn good with cheese.

stolid_agnostic,

Wait does it bother you to find raisins in food?

droans,

I love oatmeal raisin cookies and I’m tired of pretending I don’t.

Raisins are delicious and most cookies would be improved with oatmeal.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Oatmeal raisin cookies are one of my favorites! I don’t bake them often because I eat way too many cookies when I do.

stolid_agnostic,

People get angry with me for saying that oatmeal raisin is better than chocolate chip.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

I love oatmeal raisin cookies, hold or majorly reduce the raisins. Cookie part tastes great because oatmeal is awesome.

Peaty,

Have you ever tried aging the dough in the fridge for a few days? It makes the oatmeal softer while the outside gets crisp.

loki_d20,

Literally two ingredients common in saltenas.

AdlachGyfiawn,
@AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Olives are great. Raisins taste how old people smell.

stolid_agnostic,

Because food preferences are now memes.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

I like food. I like memes. I don't hate this.

poinck,

Oh, I like olives.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

People hate raisins because they're not chocolate. I enjoy G.O.R.P. on occasion, but I don't eat trail mix for the raisins. I leave most of them behind. They can be a bit much. Ratio of anything to raisin needs to be right. One raisin to five to ten of anything else, otherwise they're just overwhelming.

Olives, on the other hand, are fucking delicious. Hell yeah. Bathe me in their brine-rich kisses.

Kjatten,

That does actually sound rather good

superfes,

Pineapple upside down cheesecake… ?

Somebody invent that!

0ops,

Oh my god… Let me have some

poinck,

But it needs to be an American cheese cake with pinapple, not that stuff we have here in Europe.

ReluctantMuskrat,

I’m tempted… sounds delicious and I wonder why I’ve never seen pineapple and cheesecake combined. I wonder if the acidity is hard on the cheesecake.

Skanky,

Who hurt you?

JGrffn,

Hear me out. Christmas rice with raisins. They absorb moisture from the dish and become these sweet little treats in the midst of a very buttery and savory rice. I hate raisins but I fucking love that rice.

Alexstarfire,

What the hell is Christmas rice?

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Inquiring minds wants to know

JGrffn,

Posted an explanation in this comment chain!

JGrffn,

Maybe it’s a cultural or family thing? So it’s just pre-cooked rice, you cook it as you would any rice I guess, but you add chicken stock, raisins, and butter (at the end, after you’re done cooking it). Variations often also include peas and corn, maybe diced carrots, but we stick to just raisins. The savory mix of the buttery rice with tiny packets of moist raisins sprinkled about the rice makes it delicious!

poinck,

Interesting. That reminds that there is indeed another dish that is ok with raisins: Christmas loaf (Stollen).

Peaty,

Needs dried cherries too.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

I dunno what Christmas rice is, but raisins are so much better in savory applications than sweet.

Vej,

I’m going to take one for the team and make this.

I also love pineapple on pizza.

trailing9,

Don’t leave us hanging. Have you died or not?

Vej,

Not dead yet, didn’t make it. I don’t have cheese right now.

tacosplease,

The problem with Pineapple on pizza is that everyone thinks ham goes with it. That’s ok, but pepperoni and pineapple is so much better, and nobody ever gets to try it because of “Hawaiian” pizza.

Vej,

I just like pineapple on cheese.

ggiesen,

I put pepperoni, ham, bacon and pineapple on my pizza. So tasty.

neryam,

This, also bacon and pineapple 🤤

Or go full Hawaiian with crispy spam and pineapple…

Ham is bottom tier tbh

Someone,

Finally someone’s brave enough to say the truth about ham.

The only reason I enjoy eating ham on meat lovers or Hawaiian pizza is because it’s pizza and it doesn’t disassemble well.

scottywh,

Bacon, pineapple, and jalapeño is what the fuck’s up.

joemo,

I think what also turns people off of pineapple on pizza is some places do these huge chunks of pineapple. Smaller chunks are better as they actually cook down a little and are delicious.

I am also part of the pineapple and pepperoni game. I would also recommend trying pineapple and Italian sausage if you like Italian sausage.

stolid_agnostic,

And they should be dry well before touching pizza to avoid sogginess.

GratefullyGodless,
@GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world avatar

My wife loves a good 3 P pizza as she calls it…Pineapple, Pepperoni, and Peppers (green). She orders one at least once a month.

oatscoop,

I always like people gatekeeping pizzas that use toppings other than the traditional Italian ones.

… ignoring the fact that tomato sauce is from the Americas.

DrPop,

I put leftover beans and corn on a pizza from Taco night and one of my friends flipped. I thought it was pretty good. Pizza is just bread sauce and a topping.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Your friend was right

DrPop,

My friend only eats cheese pizza.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Ouch. Sucks to be wrong against someone with such poor taste

Letstakealook,

Make a pineapple, mac and cheese, and raisin pizza.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Help

Crashumbc,

No

TeoTwawki, (edited )
@TeoTwawki@lemmy.world avatar

I’m italian from a family so italian we’re all walking stereotypes, and pinapple+black olive is my favorate pizza combination.

Mr_Blott,

You always know when someone says something like “we’re so Italian we…” that they’re definitely not from Italy

TeoTwawki,
@TeoTwawki@lemmy.world avatar

My grandparents imigrated with all 12 of thier kids (my aunts and uncles), you got a problem -lots of hand motions- wid that? Eh? Eh?

But seriously who started all this topping gatekeeping, pizza has spread all over the world with variations evrywhere.

Peaty,

I always loved hearing stories from kids that spoke Italian at home in NJ who then went to Italy to discover the 1850s era Sicilian they actually spoke was nothing like modern Italian.

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

You wouldn’t be assuming that everyone on Lemmy is American, would you? Because I lost my shit over that too.

Blubber28,

I’m Dutch myself so nope, not assuming so XD

Nevertheless, as a European, it is my continental duty to shit on Americans, which is (partially) why I made the meme :P

Ejh3k,

Hold the fucking phone bud. You can shit on America all you want, but don’t. Think you can shit on Americans all you want.

It was Americans that saved you all in ww2. We are mostly good and decent people.

But, I have never in my life seen raisins anywhere near Mac & cheese. I’ve never seen olives near it either.

Dontfearthereaper123,

Did you not realise the irony of making this comment?

Juvyn00b,

They either full well do… or full well don’t. Either way, that’s entertaining!

Nythos,

Why do uptight Americans always go straight for “we saved your arse in WWII” whenever they feel the slightest bit offended someone riffed their country a tiny bit.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Nationalism is a bitch.

Ejh3k,

Oh? The greatest credible threat to the world? Not saying that dropping two nukes on the country that invaded and raped or killed uncountable numbers of people is heroic, but without us and the lend lease, Europe was fucking done for.

Also, none of us say arse.

Thirdly, we fucking did save your ass in ww2. Also in ww1. I’m literally never the ugly American in public, I’ve had Turkish taxi drivers in German ask me why I want to go to the American army base because I’m so not that person.

But give credit where it’s due.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Shut up, Grandpa. You're embarrassing me.

Ejh3k,

You’re embarrassing yourself.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

May all your mac and cheese have raisins in it.

sock,

ur funny

you saved nobodies ass and its EMBARRASSING youre taking ANY credit when you probably ask for help getting a milk jug out of the fridge.

you saved nobody. america now has saved nobody. soldiers arent heroes theyre people that want to survive stop glorifying the war and the us like we won a call of duty campaign. America wants its own people to die and they want to capitalize on it.

the military is for fuckn weirdos that like supporting oil tycoons and if youre forced to join then you have my utmost respect as that fucking sucks.

if ur gonna talk shit at least have something to back it up how many one arm pullups can you do, how longs ur planche, front lever etc? oh you cant do any of these things because youre a couch politician, soldier, and patriot i forgot. focus on something useful in your life. america doesn’t wanna suck your dick

Ejh3k,

I was in my second week of basic training when 9/11 happened, so don’t give me shit about supporting oil companies.

I did my time. 15 months in baghdad in 03 and 04. Got hit with 13 IEDs, shot at nearly every day. You just don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

HotDogFingies,
@HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

Getting shot at comes with the job you willingly signed up for.

Peaty,

Yeah and the credit for WWII should be mostly given to the USSR.

namingthingsiseasy,

Jokes aside, it was Canada that liberated the Netherlands. And they took in the Dutch royal family as well. en.wikipedia.org/…/Canada–Netherlands_relations?u…

It’s actually quite a beautiful story to read about, for those who are interested.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

That’s why we named the quintessential canadian winter warming move after them, the dutch oven.

PlasmaDistortion,

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  • ReluctantMuskrat,

    I mean this is simply another reason us American carry guns

    HotDogFingies,
    @HotDogFingies@kbin.social avatar

    I don't think most Americans need a reason.

    oozeling,

    I don’t think Americans need a reason raisin.

    FTFY

    iegod,

    o7

    canihasaccount,

    Well, .world is definitely a US domain.

    /s

    JokeDeity,

    “Pizza Hawaii” . Where the fuck are you from?

    TryingToEscapeTarkov,

    I learned a food hack where you can make your pizza on top of a pineapple so its technically not a topping.

    Wage_slave,
    @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

    I have been up and down a few posts concerning this and have yet to find (maybe i missed a couple) anyone who has tried this and reported back.

    I am beginning to think that this was just some housewives joke on the internet.

    “You know what, this should really rattle some budgies if i just say i add a few raisins. oooo I am such a devil” and little did she know just how well it worked.

    On a basis of raisins and cheese whiz being good, I think it might have a little bit of charm.

    banneryear1868,

    Yeah that would make sense, it’s such a grandma prank to put “flies” in the food teehee

    JusticeForPorygon,
    @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I’m convinced this is what happened with Water Cereal on Reddit a few years back

    ZoopZeZoop,

    I’ve made water cereal, but it started as an accident, which I then had to live with because there was no more cereal left. I’ve also switched milk and orange juice, which I tried, but did not continue on with.

    Banana,

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  • banneryear1868, (edited )

    Uhh fuck ye that’s a pizza! One of my pineapple bois:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6a1893de-b691-47bc-a38a-d5bd6dbdbd41.jpeg

    ricecake,

    Do you ever call it a peach-a? Because you better.

    I would worry that peach slices that big would get too watery. I think that pineapple, tomato slices and peppers only work when they’re small enough that they don’t make a little moisture pocket around them.

    banneryear1868,

    “Americans when you deep fry butter”

    recarsion,

    Not american but why would you put raisins in mac n cheese?

    banneryear1868,

    Pineapple on pizza is such a forced debate, nobody normal sincerely cares that much, and anyone who does is either pretending or has a toddler-level approach to food. The “authentic Italian” gatekeeping is also incredibly stupid and ironic, given Italy’s history of appropriating other culture’s foods then claiming they are the arbiters of the most “authentic” version of said food.

    My fav dolce pizzas to make are cinnamon date puree with pecans and brown sugar sprinkled over top, or a sliced pear/apple with brie and a Balsamic drizzle.

    zalgotext,

    Any contrarian food opinions are forced debate, and just plain stupid. Arguing that “pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza” is the logical equivalent to arguing “no one’s favorite color should be red”.

    JusticeForPorygon,
    @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Np ones favorite color should be Yellow

    banneryear1868, (edited )

    The hilarious pizza regulatory body in Italy says it’s not real pizza though!

    This is maybe a hot take but some of the most authentically branded and certified pizza in Italy happened to also be some of the worst pizza I’ve ever eaten, and the best pizza I had in Italy was no better than a good quality pizza anywhere else. I mean they’re damn good pizzas, but turns out baking a circle of dough with tomato sauce and cheese on it is a pretty basic thing to do well. And yeah I know there’s complexity in all of this but it’s not materially complex. Use the proper flour and hydration, knead it well, let it cold ferment for a day, shape it properly. Oh you didn’t use the Roma tomatoes from Mt Vesuvius? Sorry not real pizza.

    Also the demand for authentic Italian pizzas from foodies in North America has created some of the worst pizza abominations, because the skill required to shape a ball of dough by hand isn’t widely present in the service industry workforce. Like yeah when the right person is in it’s great, but even at these upper range places tough gummy dough inconsistently shaped is common. “Never frozen though so it’s real!” Nobody can taste the difference between frozen dough that’s been thawed, let to rise, and baked, if anything the longer ferment time makes it taste better.

    If you can’t tell I detest the ironic authenticity trend in these heavily market-researched upper range investment restaurants right now. That’s not even to say the notion of authentic food is bullshit, but it seems like a lot of these type of places are more focused on creating a commodified form of what people think authentic food is, than actually making good food. Unfortunately this trend has plagued the humble pizza. I think the way to judge if a pizza is “real” is if you can consume it while walking down a street having a conversation, that’s real pizza.

    What all of this effort should really go to… Italy should invalidate the Italian ancestry of anyone involved with calling Chicago deep dish “pizza.” That shit is a casserole, delicious as it may be. NOT PIZZA

    Zaddy,

    Ok, but raisins in Mac and cheese is a fucking affront to humanity.

    banneryear1868,

    I dunno cause dried fruits are pretty normally served with cheese, and if the starch was a baguette or cracker instead of pasta it would be considered almost boring. People add ketchup to mac’n’cheese which I think is gross, but to me that’s a stronger and sweeter taste than rasins.

    ZombiFrancis,

    Raisins? Pff. Never heard of that. Frozen green peas though? That’s where it’s at for the boxed Mac and cheese.

    ciapatri,

    I hate raisins either way but I love love love sauteed onions with my mac n cheese.

    Misconduct,

    Huh. I never thought to try that I bet it’s tasty

    Peaty,

    Onions makes sense though as cheese, onions and pasta are a normal combination but raisins?

    zalgotext,

    Apples and cheddar? Pear and brie? Peaches and balsamic?

    Sweet + tangy + savory is an incredibly popular combination, so Mac and cheese + raisins isn’t all that unusual.

    Also it’s subjective. You don’t have to like it, but it shouldn’t be surprising that other people do.

    Peaty,

    Sweet and tangy with the presence of acids and moisture from the fruit are a good combo but guess what raisins don’t have?

    zalgotext,

    You ever have a charcuterie board? Dried fruit and cheese are staples there, and neither are particularly moist.

    I’ll say it again, it’s ok to not like a particular thing, but you shouldn’t be surprised when someone else does. Everyone’s tastes are different.

    Peaty,

    Fair, didn’t think of charcuterie.

    yaminoEXE,

    Canadians breathing a sigh of relief when everyone blames America for pineapple on pizza instead of them.

    Wage_slave,
    @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

    We can only protect ourselves on the merits of ginger beef and the ceasar for so long…

    CADmonkey,

    I wondered if it might be because of you lot. Pineapple is typically paired with canadian bacon (ham) on pizza.

    chiliedogg,

    I didn’t like pineapple on pizza until a coworker did pineapple and jalapeno.

    The sweet/spicy combination was pretty great.

    w2tpmf,

    Don’t worry. I blame you for mayonnaise on hamburgers still.

    Stabbitha,

    Mayo, mustard, and onion were the original hamburger toppings, Canada didn’t invent that.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    How does one not eat burgers with mayo? It’s the best part

    Wage_slave,
    @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

    While I can go both ways for the mayo on the burger debate, not often you hear that it’s the best part.

    A&W is where I go for the mayo on burger goodness. Even the mozza sauce is just thousand island with more mayo essentially.

    pipows,
    @pipows@lemmy.today avatar

    I’m a dead set mac 'n cheese hater

    gentooer,

    Do you not like short pasta or do you not like cheese sauce?

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