grte,

The nightshade family also gives us a lot of important vegetables. Potatoes, tomatoes, and peppers being the most common but others as well.

RizzRustbolt,

The culinary history of humanity is just one long dare about eating the killer plants.

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks to all our forefather who ate enough poisonous squashes for us to enjoy squash soup and pumpkin pies.

lolcatnip, (edited )

I love all those vegetables but if I had to give up allium or nightshades, I’d give up nightshades.

Denvil,

I love garlic as much as the next guy, but I don’t think I could imagine food without potatoes

Kalkaline,

Don’t forget the brassicas too

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Tobacco is also in this family

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

And then there’s Brassica oleracea, where it’s not even a family, but one single species that brings us a heap of classic veggies including cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, and gai lan. If you expand to its family you can add turnip, bok choy, radish, wasabi, as well as the majority of source vegetables in the eponymous “vegetable oil”.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Are you saying a vegetable fried this rice?

Frozengyro,

Ah, the old lemm-a-roo

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I don’t get it.

Ephera,

Does this help?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switcheroo

It’s kind of an internet culture thing to respond like that…

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

No I’m familiar with the ol’ Reddit switcheroo. I don’t understand what exactly is being switched in this case.

Ephera,

Yeah, it’s a bit of a stretch here. The comment is intentionally mixing things up for comedic effect, but it’s not a direct switch of anything…

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Damn. I didn’t understand the joke the above user was making and was hoping that by understanding why it’s a switcheroo I could understand the original joke. But now I’m no closer than where I started.

Ephera,

That’s an existential crisis I’ve had after starting to eat vegan. Suddenly everything in your cupboard is a plant, with the exception of salt and sometimes mushrooms.

It’s just like: I’ll now eat this noodle-shaped plant with this pureed plant and this protein-rich plant and I’ll also throw in some tasty plant shreds. Maybe I should also have some plant leaves with a dressing out of plant oil, fermented plant juice and this plant seed paste.

But then I realized that meat, eggs, cheese, milk, and even mushrooms, they’re all just processed/digested plants, too. So, there’s only plants and salt. Which really didn’t make the existential crisis any better, but at least we’re all in it together. 🙃

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

All beings, including us, are descendants of the first single-celled being that appeared on Earth billions of years ago. We share 75% of our DNA with a potato (some people which I know, even more)

Damage,
sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Brussel sprouts? That’s not a vegetable, that’s heresy! Awful stuff. The rest can be good, depending on the context though.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

For what it’s worth, though I don’t think I’ve ever had them in any form, I’ve heard that the poor reputation of Brussels sprouts is due to the popular way of cooking them in the '30s through '80s being to boil the shit out of them. They’re supposed to be quite good if you cook them the right way.

SilentStorms,

They’ve also had a lot of the bitterness bred out of them since the 90s. The ones I’ve eaten recently are less bad than I remember as a kid.

They’re still bad tho

randint,
@randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

So that’s why some vegetables sometimes have that wasabi taste to it.

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Also my lovely Cucurbitales, from cucumbers over pumpkins up to melons.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My mother does not like onions.

I am glad I did not inherit that horrific genetic abnormality.

Iron_Lynx,

My gf does not like the texture of onions.

The taste is fine with her, so I think I’m gonna have to get used to cooking for her with minced onions…

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My mom was (and is) a terrible cook in many other ways, but the ‘I’m not making you anything with onions in it’ as a kid kind of sucked.

I’m just glad my grandmother was a good cook.

Iron_Lynx,

I feel bad for my brother right now, since his gf cannot have onions and garlic due to a food intolerance. At least spring onions are still tolerable, but still…

cheesymoonshadow,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

Garlic and onions are the basis for so many things that we cook at my house. I can’t imagine not having them in my diet.

Phegan,

I don’t like onions. It’s literally the one food I do not like. I’ve tried them many times, many ways, and still nope.

Rubanski,

Raw and cooked? Maybe try it minced, cooked extremely soft and mixed into a sauce so there are no visible pieces?

Phegan,

I will use it to cook in soups and such, but otherwise, no thank you. I’ve replaced it with leeks and shallots.

Rubanski,

Shallots and leeks are nice! Welcome to the Allium family:)

Vespair,

S TIER: Shallot, Garlic

A TIER: Leek

F TIER: All of the others

CaptnNMorgan,

Yellow onions are good

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Also red, also spring.

CaptnNMorgan,

I like onions in general but it’s harder to argue against a yellow onion than a white one

Tristaniopsis,

There used to be an garlic restaurant near my old house and basically EVERYTHING was garlic based. It was heaven.

Guess what. They had garlic ice cream and it was DELICIOUS. Nothing like I thought it would be. It was light and sort of fruity and sweet.

Goddamit I miss that place.

Dabundis,

I’d guess the garlic was deeply roasted until brown and sweet for the ice cream?

Tristaniopsis,

You are probably correct. Slowly… veeeeerrrry slowly.

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Allium family also make the world nicer, even those for the kitchen have nice flowers if planted.

https://file.coffee/u/Z8zzuUD0hbhyv-QLnNLG-.jpg https://file.coffee/u/eeH-q1EvdT2kv8Ha8BpZa.webp

Xttweaponttx,

Wow!! Do they grow that spherical or are those groomed??

Either way, beautiful!!

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

They grow mostly spherical, but depending of the species of ornamental allium. Also a normal onion has a beautifull flower if you plant it.

Onion

https://file.coffee/u/mh19pgg2UFPavhkV6ypDR.jpg

Garlic

https://file.coffee/u/MuLfrzJ_8Bt58SaEYPALC.png

Aermis,

And the flowers taste delicious!

rehydrate5503,

Holy, that’s so pretty! Would love to have some in my garden.

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

There are several webs of ornamental allium which show how to plant and care for them, the different species, etc.

MadBob,

What’s this “almost”, please?

Sekki,

I would certainly not enjoy garlic in my chocolate cake

MadBob, (edited )

Without going too Wittgenstein on you, I read it a bit differently, and I would enjoy onion jam on my chocolate cake.

dutchkimble,

But that garlic when it’s onion cake though

Kase,

Cake has layers. Onion has layers.

∵ Cake is onion.

SilverFlame,

Always has been

HipsterTenZero, (edited )
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

I once had a coworker who just took a bite out of a raw onion right in front of me. They were completely unfazed, like it was an apple or something. I’m still a little emotionally scarred.

Damage,

Was he Eastern European?

HipsterTenZero,
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

No, I don’t think so. He was a younger guy from the southern US, if I remember correctly. Is that something east europeans do on the regular??

Schmoo,

Younger guy from the southern US here, I have done this just to fuck with people. I’m just not very sensitive to the “bite” onions are supposed to have. I can chop quite a few of them before my eyes start to water.

nevemsenki,

As an eastern european, we eat everything with onions and garlic. Hell, I even eat onions on their own time to time, it tastes good.

thumbman,

Southern guy probably was eating a Vidalia onion. The soil is low in sulfur, I believe, and has a more neutral acidity, so the onion is pretty uniquely sweet. I heard one older southerner call them dirt apples.

drcobaltjedi,

There are actually onions that you can do that with. I think the soil where those are grown is low on sulfer or something so the onion cant make the chemical responsible for making your eyes water.

Sigh_Bafanada,

I’ll usually eat a could wee chunks of an onion after I dice it up, and the other day I was surprised by how palatable the onion was that I was eating. Normally I enjoy eating a couple tiny pieces raw, but this was an onion I could see myself taking a big ol bite out of

GlitterInfection,
leanleft,
@leanleft@lemmy.ml avatar

1015

OhStopYellingAtMe,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

My grandfather used to eat vidalia onions like apples. They’re pretty sweet & mild.

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

Do you happen to work at a mid-sized paper company?

LilB0kChoy,

No, that was a potato… or a beet.

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

But you gotta admit, it’s a very Creed thing to do

niktemadur,

I once knew a guy who peeled and ate a full garlic like one would do with an orange or mandarin, while walking and talking casually.

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

When I was a child we often had peeled garlic on the table for me to snack on it during dinner. I must have smelled hideously.

Simulation6,

Sweet onions were consider a desert by the Romans and they would eat them like we do apples.

Got_Bent,

I had a surly paternal grandmother who seemed to revel in making the lives of children miserable.

When I was about four years old, I asked for a snack, and she gave me a raw onion.

I sat at the kitchen table and ate the entire fucking thing like it was the sweetest piece of fruit known to history, staring her in the eye the whole time.

If I had been just a little bit older and thought of it, I would’ve asked her for another one.

She died when I was seven. My reaction to this, as she lived in Washington State, was, “Does that mean we get to see Mount Saint Helens?” as the volcano had gone off just a couple weeks prior.

feedum_sneedson,

That would have given me stomach cramps that made me pray for death.

Mananasi,

I am very sad I can’t eat these anymore due to IBS

Stegotron,

I was this way for years. I eventually recovered a lot and slowly weened back onto them. Good luck and take care.

Mananasi,

Thank you for the kind words! I didn’t know I could maybe have these again at some point in the future. Did you just try them every now and again to see how you reacted? Do you still need to watch out?

Defectus,

Same for me when i had ibd (still do but in remission). But after bettering my gut microbiome I could eat everything again.

AgentGrimstone,

When I first started to cook for myself, I ignored using onions and garlic because I didn’t think they would make that big a difference 🤡

LemmyKnowsBest,

I always thought onions and garlic made breath bad so I don’t put them on anything and I don’t give them to anyone.

Quexotic,

I have mixed feelings because they are dog poison. Makes me feel like they’re kind of evil.

RizzRustbolt,

They’re people poison too. We just out-toleranced them.

Quexotic,

Really? I didn’t know!

TexasDrunk,

I feel like that’s a lot of things. Some of us poison ourselves recreationally with alcohol.

ethan,

If grapes and chocolate are evil I think I’d rather be evil.

Quexotic,
BestBouclettes,

Sucks to have IBS, it’s hard to avoid alliums…

theangryseal,

Me too, and I just suffer for it haha.

I know it’s stupid, but I just can’t give up good food. My stomach will hurt so bad it feels like I have back problems or something and I’m still not eating spaghetti without my garlic bread.

I don’t eat the good stuff constantly, most of my meals are bland. When I get a chance though I don’t pass on it.

emptiestplace,

How sensitive are you? I’ve found I struggle with them a bit if I eat lots suddenly after not eating them for a while, but if I continue, it tends to be fine. My guess is that the reason it is inconsistent for me is related to fluctuations in gut bacteria partially due to what I am eating…

I know actual IBS is no joke, but I think it would be interesting to determine your threshold and see if you can change it at all. For example, eat a pea-sized piece of onion and wait a couple days. No effect, start eating a pea-sized piece of onion every day and wait for cumulative effects (a week or two?). Still no effect, add another piece for one day, go back to regular dose for a couple days, etc. When you reach the point where it starts to cause discomfort, back off a bit and try to push it again in a week or two.

BestBouclettes,

I’ve never really tried to change it, I adapted as best as I could.
I’m intolerant to most fodmap (lactose, mannitol, fructans, gos and fructose). I also noticed that gluten can wreck me if I eat too much of it, fatty food can trigger me as well as alcohol.
It was hard to get used to it but now it’s a question of self regulation. I skip most of the things that trigger me and indulge sometimes, often a bit too much and I have to face the consequences for up to a week or so. Lactose is the easiest to deal with because of lactase, the rest not so much… I guess at least I’m not celiac or suffering of Crohn’s, so that’s that I guess.

dopeshark,
@dopeshark@lemmy.world avatar

Gallium enjoyers: 💀

grue,

It’s fine as long as you’re not a robot made out of aluminum or something.

db2,

Onions, garlic, other onions, other other onions

memfree,
@memfree@lemmy.ml avatar

Heh! The pointy ones are shallots. I agree that Chinese chives or European Leeks or something equally different would have better rounded out the set.

menemen,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

You include shallots, but not spring onions? I feel offended.

Raxiel,

Their foil is pretty good at keeping stuff fresh too (as well as making good anti-mind-control hats)

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