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negativenull, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

Oldie(ish) but still relevant: www.cgpgrey.com/blog/humans-need-not-apply

Stegget, (edited ) in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

When I was an undergrad my professors put a big emphasis on developing a portfolio of work and picking up experience where we could before graduation. For me that meant freelancing a few times a month while working a part time job along with class. Internships are great, but everyone had to have one to graduate from my program. A degree will set you up, but a portfolio of work and related experience will help set you apart.

JPSound, in Now you're memeing with portals

That’s really cute. 9.83/10 meme.

Rokin,

Wholesome

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Holesome

monz, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening
@monz@pawb.social avatar

How are we supposed to get industry experience otherwise?

Businesses aren’t hiring without a degree unless you have four years of industry experience to replace the degree.

Plus, we get an internship during college to get some of both.

Still don’t get hired after graduating.

It’s fucked!

Sotuanduso,

Where and when you’re searching plays into it.

If you’re looking for postings, you’ll have an easier time finding a job, but a harder time getting it, because there’s so much competition.

If you’re searching right after graduation, so’s the rest of your class, and you have to compete with them.

If you’re hitting up relevant companies in hopes that they can hire you, you’ll have a harder time finding a place with an opening, but once you do, the competition is near zero. You need only prove you’re a good fit.

Kalothar, (edited )

You are supposed to either already have connections, or be forced to adapt your skills to create connections.

Ya know, they just want to make sure you’re one of them first and not one of the others

SnappDragon10,

I honestly need to work more on my connecting. Hopefully not any time soon but that networking gives me hella anxiety

Kepabar,

While the tone of this post is mocking, it’s a very real thing that having the social skills to match someone else’s vibe during an interview can help tremendously with helping the interviewer see you as someone who can fit with the company culture.

I see people who struggle with getting jobs often are lacking in those sort of soft social skills.

LunarVoyager,

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  • Kepabar,

    If you lack social skills you better have some sort of labor relevant skill to replace it with them!

    Monster96, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

    It’s been 7 months for me and in all that time I got one job offer that they ultimately gave to someone else. The pain is real…

    Jon_Servo, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

    This is something I’m worried about. I actually have a decent-paying blue-collar job, but I want to be an engineer and expand myself. A lot of entry engineering positions pay less than what I currently make. I’d be happy breaking even, but pay cuts are a hard decision to make.

    GBU_28,

    If you can keep the roof over your head, the goal is to look at longer term earning.

    This is a painful trap that keeps a lot of lower income and skill folks down, life forces them to take the short term earning to stay fed, thereby missing out on longer term opportunities

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    They should have chosen to be born into a wealthier family!

    GBU_28,

    Good glib lemmycomment

    smuuthbrane, in Now you're memeing with portals
    @smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Despite her disgust, she is holding a mirror so he can check his own ass out. He likes what he sees.

    DavidGarcia, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

    In hindsight I would have been much happier, healthier and wealthier if I had just gotten a construction job or something after HS instead of torturing myself through a CS degree lmao

    Unaware7013,

    Having worked construction for a few years before getting my IT degree:

    [X] Doubt

    thatsTheCatch,

    I work in IT, and I’ve sometimes thought maybe I should’ve gone into construction or something that doesn’t have such a breakneck pace of changing technology.

    What was working in construction like, and how does it compare to your IT job now?

    krellor,

    Not the person you asked, but I grew up in a rural blue collar area. Construction beats up your body, and even with the right PPE you are at high risk of injury from accident or simple repetitive stress injuries. The work is often exposed to the elements, on stressful timetables, with pressure to work long hours.

    Some of the trades can be better, but many have the same issues I listed above. Lots of people in trades or construction feel 60 at 40 from beating their body up.

    thatsTheCatch,

    Thank you for sharing!

    Unaware7013,

    Backbreaking is the best way to describe working construction. We did general framing/siding/roofing, and my body hurt every day after I was done. I went into IT specifically for the mental challenge, and because I saw how my uncle and grandfather's bodies were broken by a lifetime of construction and didn't want to deal with it for myself.

    I'll gladly take learning new skills constantly over breaking my body.

    thatsTheCatch,

    Thank you for sharing!

    DavidGarcia,

    I’ve grown up doing hard manual labor most of my free time and let me tell ya, I vastly prefer that over taking exams and being stressed 24/7 for years.

    kakes,

    Yep. Was a welder, now a software dev. There are pros and cons to both, but overall I’m way happier now.

    That said, this is anecdotal - different strokes and all that.

    hark,
    @hark@lemmy.world avatar

    Classic case of grass is greener on the other side.

    Stegget,

    Yep. The grass is greenest where you water it.

    Zorque,

    It'd be nice if we didn't have to pigeon-hole ourselves into one skillset in order to survive.

    seaQueue,
    @seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

    But think of the shareholders!

    Bwaz, in Aaaaaand it's over

    He might have bluetooth hearing aids?

    thorbot, (edited ) in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

    My first employer out of college told me explicitly they hired me because I was willing to stick with a 4 year program, and though I didn’t have experience they were confident I’d stick around enough to be trained. I got an art degree and it was a computer science job 🤔

    tempest,

    You can be trained to code and probably came cheap. Companies willing to invest in people are very rare in this day and age.

    thorbot,

    This is a weirdly reductionist take. Implying that anyone can be “trained to code” seems to imply that coding is a rote skill that can be easily trained into anyone, completely dismissing the fact that some brains will just inherently do better at it than others. Also the generalization you make about companies that are willing to to train their potential hires is not true everywhere.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    As someone who isn’t a coder, I was able to pick up enough Visual Basic back in the day to figure out how to make some basic apps for myself. It only involved learning a few concepts and commands. That should be enough for anyone with a college degree to do. Simple coding at a low level, learning enough to maintain a website that’s already been designed for example, as long as nothing catastrophic happens, can definitely be done by anyone.

    The problem now is that it can also be done by AI.

    AVincentInSpace,

    AIs are worse at coding than they are at art, and that’s saying something

    Naboo_calls_for_aid,

    Congrats, I spent a stupid amount of effort trying to do just that, ended up breaking into other industries.

    TheHottub, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening
    @TheHottub@lemmy.world avatar

    It certainly helps.

    hemko, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening

    Where’s this template from? A Mario animated movie?

    MisterMcBolt,

    The Super Mario Bros. Movie that came out earlier this year. It’s a fun kids movie with a lot of classic Nintendo nostalgia.

    eestileib,

    They put a guardrail on Rainbow Road though… grumble

    Jack Black is awesome as Bowser.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    They gave Mario an American accent for star appeal. I’d say that’s more egregious. Maybe if this was the era where Mario never talked in the games, when we had Mario cartoons where he had an American accent, but he doesn’t have one anymore. It just irked me is all.

    TheOakTree,

    To be fair, there are renditions of rainbow road with little garden fence style railing…

    But the road in the movie does not seem to be that road either so…

    Fredy1422,

    SNES rainbow road does not have a rail on the sides of the track.

    objectionist,
    @objectionist@lemmy.world avatar

    i see you’ve been living under a rock for some time

    en.wikipedia.org/…/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie

    hemko,

    I guess so, have to check it out

    Sabre363, in Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's not happening
    MonkderZweite,

    Well, the link to sh.itjust.works doesn’t load for me.

    257m,

    Its Buzz lightyear saying: Years of Academy training wasted!

    yesman, in Every goddamn time I'm trying to make something for my DnD game

    I’m not sure if this will work for everyone, but when I want to share something from the web with my iphone, I just change the file name from “somememe.webp” to “somememe.png” and it works fine.

    mojo, in Every goddamn time I'm trying to make something for my DnD game

    It’s straight up better though

    RacoonVegetable,

    AVIF wants to know your location

    londos,

    So was Betamax

    TheOctonaut,
    londos,

    I’ve seen this video but I went ahead and watched it again. I stand by that it’s a great comparison, as it clearly depends on what “better” means. Webp and consumer Beta have extremely marginal technical benefits that are mostly irrelevant to the average user, compared to the use cases people actually want, which are to record football games and use digital images in Paint or almost any other software. My comment to the first post was meant to say that, but I guess it didn’t come across that way.

    TheOctonaut,

    WebP is definitely the VHS in this scenario - editing and creating images is NOT the most common use of image files. Not by a long shot. It’s for distribution of images, which is vastly more common a usage.

    And there is nothing technically deficient about WebP for editing either - it’s just a new image format that came to popularity in the last 18 months. I’m old enough to remember JPEG being new, and it had the same things said about it. If you’re doing anything serious, both JPEG and WebP are the distribution format of your master image that you keep for yourself in a bitmap format.

    CeeBee,

    The “pro” version of Betamax was good. It wasn’t the consumer version. The consumer version was no better than VHS.

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