As a boomer, I don’t recall my parents teaching me anything about prejudice, the same at school. The only guidance on prejudice came from my religious education (I’m RC by birth) and to be honest it was completely the opposite to this sentiment. We were taught, for example, that Protestants were evil and that we should never befriend them or trust them.
I stopped going to church when I was about 11, it no longer felt relevant and the teachings were against my own personal beliefs. I had grown up with friends who were of different faiths, Jewish, Protestant, Muslim as well as Catholic, and didn’t consider them to be anything other than buddies.
Some religious teachings have value, but by promoting prejudice as well, the impact is diminished. The only times I have been in church since I was 11 were for weddings and funerals.
Right, they’re not a problem for me. We could get along all day but I’m a problem to them as a gay atheist.
E: I’d really like to know why the downvotes. I’ve literally been discriminated against for one or the other by religious people alike for the exact same reasons regardless of creed. I’m not just gonna forget that to sing along to kumbaya and pretend the world is rosy.
I feel this. I’ve met a few exceptions (including my sister, who is wonderful and my best friend), but much of the time I can only get along with religious people until they find out I’m queer. It’s pretty uncommon, at least where I live, to meet a religious person who’d even want to be friends with me, knowing that.
Right! Like the moderator up top said don’t criticize people for their beliefs. Are you fucking kidding me?! So their belief that you should be killed is OK?
whether you’re atheist or not, judaism, christianity and islam (as well as several other smaller religions) are all abrahamic, meaning that they all stem from the same root religion. theyve all evolved over time, but in essence, the god they worship is literally the same one throughout all three.
I agree with what you’re saying. I might be wrong here, but I got the impression the person you replied to wasn’t saying that the statement is fictional/wrong, but that the god is fictional
To the lefties: remember that every time you say you “hate all men” or something similar, you’re making the same kind of prejudiced judgments that righties do when they declare all Jews or Muslims to be evil.
To the righties: remember that every time you’re accused of being evil just for being a man, you’re doing the same thing to Jews or Muslims when you say you hate them all.
To the centrists: this isn’t a centrist take. The man-haters on the left are a small minority and the religious and racial bigots on the right are a majority (based on the politicians they elect). Quit being a dipshit and move to the left so we can get single-payer healthcare and stop oppressing minorities.
I don’t know what percentage of women think this way, but I’ve anecdotally seen a fair few of them declare “all men are pigs” or something similar in response to being wronged by someone who happens to be a man. (Not in a mugging/assault type way)
Yes, and one day people will understand that Trump didn’t say all Mexicans are criminals and rapists.
The problem is, when you make sweeping generalizations like this, even if you add a disclaimer or explanation, you’re bound to severely misjudge some people, and you’re always going to have some folks who completely miss your clarification and will just run with “oh, so we should hate ALL of them then”.
Not sure why you’re mentioning that delusional, wanna-be-dictator born with a silver-spoon up-his-ass in this conversation.
I think he said the immigrants are. Statistically they are not. A lot of right-wing radio have of course been making it out as if Mexico is filled with criminals.
This has incited violence against a lot of innocent people trying to find a place to live and support their family just like any sane person in their shoes would.
[Edit] Ya seriously, Trump is one of the bad men making it more difficult for the “all men” mentioned in the post you’replying to. Why the hell are you bringing him up here? He’'s on The Howard Stern show bragging about walking into Beauty pageant dressing rooms, where he knows minors are changing their outfits, because he owns the pageant and the girls are powerless to kick the creeper out. He’s on tape bragging to a TV host about him grabbing strangers “in the pussy”. He is A Bad Man and gives women a reason to fear all men. Especially men who support the narscisist.
This has incited violence against a lot of innocent people trying to find a place to live and support their family just like any sane person in their shoes would.
This is exactly why I bring it up. If Trump saying immigrants are bad (and he didn’t even say all of them are) is harmful, people saying “all men are terrible” is just as bad, because it probably also leads to some, if not many, of them being judged unfairly because of a few bad apples.
If you think Trump is wrong for saying this about immigrants, but it’s acceptable for women to say “all men are terrible”, then I’m sorry, but you have double standards.
I’m not sure leftists are concerning themselves with bad faith “all men are scum” debates. Attention seekers and rage baiters on the internet may style themselves as socially and ethically conscious (which is funny that that gets its own discrete political ideology…huh) but no true leftist seeks to divide the working class along sex/gender lines. It’s definitely not a top 10 talking point of leftist politics.
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