lugal,

Is this 2/3s of income plus tip or is the tip included? Because if you want to save money, tip your landlord less!

Lucidlethargy,

Yeah, but they really deserve that tip. They work really hard, you see. Just the other year my landlord was hard at work promising to paint over a wall he ruined with repairs.

I bet he’s going to get it done any day now!

Gosh, maybe it’s because my last tip was too low… It’s probably my fault.

lugal,

As a general rule, it’s always the renter’s fault.

And don’t underestimate the effort and work and emotional energy spent on postponing painting the wall, feeling bad about it, postponing it again, … they spent a lot of time and energy on that!

winterayars,

Give your landlord a negative tip.

lugal,

I donno, is that even legal?

PeterPoopshit,

In my area it’s more like 13/12ths

ArbitraryValue,

Did you know that you can be a landlord too, even if you can’t afford a whole house? There’s such a thing as a REIT (real estate investment trust) where you can buy shares in a company that owns and rents out real estate and sends you your share of the profits while you don’t have to do anything except give up the option to invest that money somewhere else, which is actually really important.

I don’t expect everyone here to be able to invest in the stock market; my point is that there are easy ways for even middle-class people to obtain income from rent and yet most of them aren’t doing that because other types of investments are usually better for them. Being a landlord is not some unique source of money for nothing; it’s one of many ways to invest your money in a productive asset and usually not the best one.

XEAL, (edited )

“Did you know you can help suck 2/3 of someone’s income too?”

Maalus,

Then be a landlord and set good prices and work on the property.

VikingHippie,

Anti-social Rent-seeking Behavior For Dummies

ArbitraryValue,

Did you read the article that you’re linking to? Rent seeking in the economic sense does not mean purchasing property in order to rent it out to tenants.

Mango,

Money for nothing. Read it again yourself genius. What part of purchasing property to rent it out makes you think you’re getting money for creating value?

VikingHippie,

Rent seeking in the economic sense does not ONLY mean purchasing property in order to rent it out to tenants.

Fixed it for you. Landlording is one of many forms of “growing one’s existing wealth without creating new wealth”

ArbitraryValue,

Renting out property does create wealth. Think of a house as a factory that produces shelter. Running the factory, as opposed to leaving it idle, increases the amount of shelter in the world, and shelter is a form of wealth.

ThrowawayPermanente,

Building a house creates wealth. Owning the land underneath it does not, it merely captures a portion of the wealth produced by others.

ArbitraryValue,

That’s a well-established economic theory and I’m not contradicting it. What I’m saying is that renting out the house after it’s built continues to create wealth. A world in which I build a nice house but keep it empty is wealthier than a world in which I leave the land unimproved, but a world where I rent that house out (or live in it myself) is wealthier still. The experience of living in that house, as opposed to some inferior option, has value.

Apollo,

Those people looking for rent couldn’t possibly be rent seeking!

rickdg,
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You got a raise? It’s my raise now.

Lucidlethargy,

Man, I went years without a cost of living increase… I told my landlord this, and that same year he raised my rent over 10% with only 60 days notice. That’s illegal in my state on two different levels. I met with an attorney, and the was basically nothing I could do that wouldn’t result in me needing to move out.

At the time, the rent was really bad in the city. I could find a comparable place to live, but the moving cost and hassle was too high.

This is how landlords do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it.

abraxas,

It’s the free country thing. Typical rental leases renew every year (and typically, renters like that freedom). A landlord can simply decline to renew if you’re “too much trouble”.

So you could challenge the illegal rent increase in court and win, but then he declines to renew. You could refuse to pay the illegal increase (doing it the right/legal way) and/or even just stop paying rent. But then he eventually evicts you, or just declines to renew.

In the end, rent is supposed to be temporary. And when it is temporary enough that moving out can be your leverage, it works. If you are settling down somewhere, it really should be owned.

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