I swore off trailers after watching Star Wars: The Force Awakens in the theater. The scene where Han tries to convince Kylo Ren to turn away from the dark side was ruined for me because I knew there was a scene in the show where Rey and Kylo were having a duel.
Ever since then if there’s a movie I even slightly care about then I’ll completely avoid the trailer.
Another thing that pisses me off is when something is labeled a ‘teaser’ but it’s 1:30+ minutes long. That’s not a teaser, that’s a trailer.
This has been the trend for the last decade now. I’ve been avoiding trailers for ages, and many studios like putting straight up spoilers in them. If I’m already interested in a movie I skip trailers completely and just go to watch it.
Parallel worlds/multiverses. I hate them because it removes all stakes or consequences from the events of a story. Character died? Bring in a new version from another world. Inconvenient thing happened? Move to a world where it never happened. Nothing matters, nothing is canon, everything is reversible.
as a kid, this was the first movie where i really understood the difference between the books as source material for movies... i was a huge fan of the movie but reading the book added so much depth.
they need not to be appreciated separately, or have any stark differences. they are very complimentary with the movie displaying beautiful visuals while the books adds the entire dimension of the aliens point of view.
suuuure, its been a few years, but basically the aliens have been here for thousands of years. water is fairly irrelevant to them, as its the pressure they are after.
the aliens can manipulate their environment at the molecular level so can easily create oxygen wherever they want. they can trivially read humans minds. they basically dont care about the advance of the human race until one day one of their peeps hits a satellite in space, crashes into the ocean and causes a united states nuclear submarine to crash, killing all crew.
the events of the movie pick up here. the aliens are remorseful about the submarine, while investigating they cause the events in the movie...towards then end a nuclear weapon lands on top of them. they of course already understand that the main character sacrifices himself to save them, whom they know he is unfamiliar with. he (and the memories of all the humans they have scanned) convinces them humans are not all bad.
the aliens realize they can no longer ignore the humans, and so expose themselves, bringing their ship out of the water. I believe in the book they also generate a giant tsunami wave out across the whole earth that halts in mid air right at the shores of the worlds beaches.
this is to get our attention.... we are not alone, or even in charge, anymore.
It was the other way around though- Orson Scott card was hired to write a novelization of the movie. The book isn’t the source material for the film, the film is the source for the book.
Hmm…maybe we should talk about Secret Wars and see if that doesn’t make a huge hit? Sure we want to see Marvel split into three people with quirky outtakes and cats that are aliens. But watching the Wrecking Crew take on the X-Men and Ultron fight Thor with Dr. Doom and Ultron facing off against Cap and the Fantastic 4 and Venom being born…nah. They are making it now, but it looks like they are going a different direction than the comic.
I think people over estimate the Marvel brand. You can’t just keep unearthing dozens and dozens of niche characters and comics and expect them all to have an established fan base.
Think, Disney.
Ironman? Yeah no shit. It’s fucking Ironman.
Thor? Duh
Hulk? Yes, but get it right.
Antman? Pushing it but yeah he dope.
Captian America? Might as well said superman.
Gaurdians? Wonderful.
Captain Marvel. You lost me.
Eternals? …
It’s no mystery as to why not every franchise is going to be a hit. Just think about it.
When the first iron man movie was announced, the character was a solid b-lister
The guardians of the galaxy were even more obscure during a comparable timeframe and had a different roster.
So b-listers can be elevated by good movies and at the same time a-listers in the comics can bomb (Thor 2, Thor 4, non-mcu: Spiderman 3)
How well-known a character is in my opinion not the deciding factor for the success of a movie. I’d say the quality of a movie and the ability to build hype (which gets harder with what appears to be superhero fatigue) play a bigger role
Well, guardians of the galaxy had been very obscure, but I am not quite ready to call them e tier.
Remember blade? I didn’t even know it was a comic book character when its success paved the way.
Really, putting the blame on the obscurity of characters is making it too easy and ignores all the fuck-ups around the movies that in my opinion have had a big hand in making them fail (not an exhaustive list):
Taking the worst trait from comicbooks: requiring the audience to have consumed other titles (worst offenders here are probably Dr. Strange 2 and the Marvels which need Wandavision and Ms. Marvel to make sense)
Alienating the (mostly male) audience: a big offender there is She-Hulk
Using fan service and cameos as replacement for good writing
pacing issues and tonal backlash: Thor love and thunder suffered from giving emotional moments not enough time to breath in favour of cramming in more laughs
Also don’t overestimate how many moviegoers are also Comic Fans.
There is two things going on. You have opening night and you have total sales. Marvel has fully saturated Hollywood so they can’t just ride the superhero hype for opening night. If the quality of the film is up to par like you said it can build momentum. What Im getting at is when I look at a Marvel movie you have to offer me something other than a canned action movie. When it comes to interesting characters and stories the well is starting to run dry.
Why only make series, when you can make siries out of movies? right? I get it, there are fans who still follow and watch the movies and series, but for normal people, like me, wont watch all this.
They expect to make money, like they did with the big ones, but IMO it has gone far away from that, the only ones interested are the ones who like this content. In the end, its more like a machine making, where they have to make more movies and more.
The series would have been fine had they not been needed to understanding what is happening in the movies.
Cue me wondering where I’d missed that Elizabeth Olsen is a villain again in Dr Strange 2.
I can deal with watching a movie every few months on the off chance that some of them are entertaining popcorn guff, but I’m not sitting through endless shows where you see 10 hours of characters you don’t care about and their extended families you also won’t care about.
Don’t worry, I watched wandavision and still have no idea why the hell she was like that in MoM. It was extremely clear the writers of WV and MoM never once talked to each other, despite one being a somewhat continuation of the other.
MoM left such a bad taste in my mouth after being the only Phase 5(?) movie I was even remotely interested in that I haven’t bothered going to the theaters for anything marvel since.
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