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Spacehooks, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - The Boy and the Heron - Soma Santoki (Luca Padovan), Masaki Suda (Rabert Pattinson), Takuya Kimura (Christian Bale) - Dir. by Hayao Miyazaki

From a visual perspective it was great but It kind of went over the head from a story perspective. Based on the reactions from the theater at the end everyone there felt the same. Someone help me please.

spoilerSpoilers: Like what was the reason his aunt was in the chamber? Why did the heron make a fake version of his mom? What was the parakeets deal with capturing Hime just to drop her off and not make any demands. If his uncle wanted him there why were the sentient things so hostile toward him? What was the deal with the baby souls if this whole place was fiction?

canthidium, (edited )
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I found this Reddit comment that I think explains the movie pretty well. I agree it can go over your head easy but this makes the most sense to me and is closest to how I felt about it.

www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/…/kbtzvns/

spoilerThe film is not about Mahito’s “quest” to find Natsuko. It’s about his “quest” to overcome his grief / anger / bitterness and persevere in an unjust and cruel world, and his ability to find Natsuko and accept her as his new mother is just one aspect of that. I don’t agree that the last half of the movie is vague at all. The general thematic thrust is very clear: “I am dying soon and the fabric of my reality is coming apart; you can follow in my footsteps and try to control everything until the bitter end, or accept that life is chaos and you can only control some things so try to enjoy what you can.” The main themes are death and rebirth. Mahito, in meeting a younger version of his mother (Himi), finally gets closure about her death (“I’m not afraid of fire”), even as she passes him onto her sister Natsuko, who is both Mahito’s “new mother” and also literally pregnant with a new child. The plot is pretty simple and makes sense when you don’t overthink it. My take is that if you see it again, knowing how the film is structured, it will be easier for you to understand. Natsuko is called to the tower because she is part of the uncle’s bloodline. (Kiriko mentions “We maidens can’t hear the tower master’s voice.”) The tower master intends to keep the baby as his successor. Himi makes it clear that the Tower Master expects to keep Natsuko and her child there forever, and initially suggests Mahito give up and go home. So the stakes for Mahito are that he loses his “mother”/family AGAIN. The “taboo” of entering the birth room is probably a part of the religious beliefs of the parakeets relative to their “Lord”/God, who is the Tower Master, but it has echoes of the Japanese myth of Toyotama-hime , who turned into a dragon while giving birth and devoured her husband for breaking the taboo – the papers in this film, with their sharp teeth, resemble a dragon as well. She says she hates him because she and the chamber are in the clear possession of the meteor, which understands that that is one of the worst things she could say to him (whenever you see the electric sparks, that is a sign that the meteor is reacting). Natsuko escapes at the end of the film because the stone implodes and no longer has control over her. Mahito does reflect on this choice between his two encounters with his granduncle. In his first encounter he derides the stone blocks as being “full of malice” since they are tombstones. He awakens from his slumber and witnesses the lengths to which the parakeets will go to confront their “Lord.” Then on his second encounter, he realizes it’s actually himself that is “full of malice” (signified by his self-inflicted wound) and that he isn’t worthy of becoming a God. It seems you missed the idea that the tower master, via the meteor’s power, has control of space and time – the tower master is responsible for the suffering of the pelicans, the wara wara, the parakeets, etc etc. It is a “perfectly balanced” world by his standards, and he offers Mahito a chance to “build his own tower” and create a world of beauty and harmony. He says this very explicitly. This is a matter of taste but I don’t know why you would look for that sort of melodrama from a Miyazaki film. When Chihiro is reunited with her parents in Spirited Away, they don’t hug and cry and get emotional. In The Wind Rises, Jiro is so disaffected, he can barely communicate his love for his wife even as she withers away in front of him. Miyazaki is about conjuring genuinely intimate moments between human characters with all their fears and faults, and I would argue that the low-key tea and jam Mahito shares with Himi is 100% more beautiful and emotional than “a tearful reunion” would have been, given that Mahito is so emotionally damaged. It seems clear to me that he recognizes she’s his mother on a fundamental level as soon as he eats her bread, which “is just like my mother used to make” (which is also after she tells him that Natsuko is her sister). We as the audience basically know Himi is his mother the first time we see her. So why would Miyazaki feel the need to include some sort of “reveal” scene? It’s not a Hollywood film. He respects our intelligence as viewers too much to do that. Most of Miyazaki’s films are filled with “unexplained” magic, logical leaps, etc. This one is just ingeniously designed to keep you asking questions – which is why the original title is “How Do You Live?”

EDIT: Copy/pasted comment in case you don’t want to go to reddit.

Spacehooks,

It did explain one bit which I knew had to be some Japanese folklore I didn’t know. The rest I dk. I agree the overall plot is simple, it’s just the details I do not understand and felt there must be more back story from folklore or something which took away from the experience. Other Gibli movies like ponyo or howls moving castle didn’t leave me as confused on why they chose to show the audience something.

Vengefu1Tuna, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - The Boy and the Heron - Soma Santoki (Luca Padovan), Masaki Suda (Rabert Pattinson), Takuya Kimura (Christian Bale) - Dir. by Hayao Miyazaki

Wow, there’s some big names in the English voice cast.

lazynooblet, in ALIEN (1979) - The Machinery of Existence - film analysis / review by Rob Ager
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Piped never works for me. Tapping play does nothing. Firefox on android

LittleTarsier, in Godzilla x Kong : The New Empire | Official Trailer

Does this have anything to do with the Godzilla tv show or the other Godzilla movie from this year?

caseofthematts,

This relates to Monarch, the TV show. It has nothing to do with Godzilla Minus One, the recent Japanese movie.

canthidium,
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It’s all the same universe, the “Monsterverse”, which includes:

Films:
Godzilla (2014)
Kong: Skull Island (2017)
Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)
Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (2024)

TV Series:
Skull Island (2023)
Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (2023)

The Toho film, Godzilla Minus One is NOT included

TheBiscuitLout, in Watching Assault on Precinct 13

Dum da-da da-dum

paddirn, in Nicolas Cage’s ‘Lord of War’ Sequel to Shoot in Morocco in 2024 With Top Line Producer Karim Debbagh (EXCLUSIVE)

I thought that read “‘Lord of the Rings’ Sequel” when I was first scanning the headline and was a bit confused.

livus, in What are you watching? (DECEMBER 2023)
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Just watched Renfield and liked it a lot.

The Killer was my other recent pick.

Roggebrood, in What are you watching? (DECEMBER 2023)

I’ve just watched Brazil, a dystopian scifi from the 80s. The visuals were great, and I love the genre, but I wasn’t really feeling it. I just couldn’t really care about the characters.

livus,
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@Roggebrood hmm yeah good point. The only one we can really care about is the main character but he keeps disassociating.

setsneedtofeed, in [DISCUSSION] What director(s) do you think have the best filmography?
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Not as voluminous as other directors, but Guillermo del Toro is fantastic at realizing movies with dark fantasy elements, giving them equal measures of humor and earnestness to keep audiences invested in the story.

skybreaker, in What are you watching? (DECEMBER 2023)
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We watched the Murder on the Orient Express series, including the nee Haunting in Venice movie. I really liked them. They’re fun and keep me guessing until the end.

brihuang95, in Killers of the Flower Moon Wins Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle (Add'l winners in comments)
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not my favorite scorsese, but it really opened my eyes to an american story i’ve never heard of

58008, in What are you watching? (NOVEMBER 2023)
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I watched My Neighbour Totoro (1988) yesterday for the first time. I’m not into animé in the slightest, I actively hate most of the pop culture that surrounds it, so I was bracing for impact before starting it. But man, it’s an incredible film. The background artwork was breathtaking, every frame was literally a painting, shown for a second or two then gone forever. The level of detail was overwhelming. There was something about the way it was animated and coloured and “lit” that made it feel like my soul was being nourished.

The youngest kid was so well-written and animated, reminded me so much of my nieces and nephews at that age. The way small everyday human things were included elevated the experience hugely. Like, the way the kid clumsily walks down the stairs, or the way someone puts their shoes on (they even animated the dad slipping his shoes off from the chest up, so you just see his shoulders move in a way that makes it clear what his unseen feet are doing, really masterful stuff).

My one criticism of it - and this may be a criticism of animated films in general - is the “frame rate” of the character animations. It was bordering on being a slideshow. Hand-drawn stuff that isn’t rotoscoped tends to have this issue, even in modern video games, and in Eastern animation in particular. For example, The Simpsons never had this problem, but Dragon Ball Z and Pokémon did (it’s probably one of the things that put me off the genre). It seems to be a stylistic choice, rather than just trying to save money by skipping the creation of every second frame. If so, it’s a choice I dislike and feel hurts the experience a little. Not hugely, just a little.

The story and acting were really pitch-perfect. Certainly a nice change from the grotesque shit I usually watch.

I’m going to be checking out the rest of Studio Ghibli’s oeuvre over the coming weeks. First on the list are: Grave of the Fireflies and Spirited Away. There are a few non-Ghibli animé films I plan to watch, too. Perfect Blue is one.

I just need to ensure I precede each film with 15 minutes of chanting “I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be, a weeaboo”.

scytale, in How Cinematherapy Helped Me Through a Midlife Crisis

I misread the headline as “cinematography” and imagined they were watching a bunch of Roger Deakins films.

wilberfan,
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😏

Kolanaki, (edited ) in As someone who was NOT impressed with OPPENHEIMER, this made me laugh... 😏
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I forgot that Twitter is now X and thought the link was taking me to a X-Com (like the game) website for a moment.

Godort, in [DISCUSSION] What director(s) do you think have the best filmography?

Honestly, George Lucas has made way more good movies than bad ones. And even the bad ones were either massively influential or interesting in some way.

For example, it’s not a controversial statement to say Attack of the Clones is a shitty movie, but it was also the first Hollywood movie to be shot entirely digitally, using a camera that he worked closely with Sony to produce. Now basically every movie is shot digitally.

Knitwear,

Maybe this is where we need a distinction between “important” and “best”? idk

canthidium, (edited )
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Yeah, 4 out of the 6 features he’s directed have been Star Wars films and at least half of those I’d consider bad. I’m not saying he isn’t influential or important when you look at the history of film, but if I’m looking at a the best director filmographies, GL’s isn’t even in the top 10 for me. Just on variety alone, it’s pretty weak.

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