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INHALE_VEGETABLES, in Satellite imagery and video shows some Gaza cemeteries razed by Israeli forces

Curious how damaged they are.

Where’s the satellite imagery?

Flyswat,

Curious how damaged they are.

One must have serious damage and no morals to do such thing

livus, (edited )
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Here is a Ghost Archive link to the original story which includes satelite imagery.

They were bulldozed to flat, featureless earth, the word "razed" is accurate in this context.

tesseract, in 2023 confirmed as world's hottest year on record

Enough with the ‘it’s the worst and it will get even worse’ stories. Start publishing the names and actions of those who benefitted from these catastrophies. Start publishing their plans to ride out the crises when the rest of us struggle in a disaster they made. Start publishing the actions they took to sabotage the world’s search for energy independence and sustainability. Start publishing how much money they made/stole with this. Start publishing the number of lives lost per person who benefitted from this.

I don’t understand the f***ing pacifist strategy against a bunch of greedy sniveling mass murderers.

serial_crusher, in Unguided ‘dumb bombs’ used in almost half of Israeli strikes on Gaza (Gifted article - no pay wall)
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We should give them some of those cluster bombs we gave to Ukraine.

sqgl,

Legally possible because Israel is not a party to the convention on cluster munitions. Neither Ukraine nor Russia are either.

I can’t imagine cluster bombs being useful in urban warfare though.

anachronist, in Greenland startup begins shipping glacier ice to cocktail bars in the UAE

I always wonder what they were thinking as they chopped down the last tree on easter island.

bermuda, in 2023 confirmed as world's hottest year on record

i prefer the term “sexiest”

megopie, in Ukraine Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba: ‘Putin does not want a frozen conflict, or peace’

The funny thing about all this, is that people keep acting like Putin is some rational actor who can be bargained with.

But he’s not, listen to his speeches, listen to what he says he believes and wants. Some of it may be propaganda for internal consumption, but a lot of it seems consistent with his actions.

He sees the existence of an independent Ukraine as an existential threat, he ether wants it gone or under a puppet regime that he has throughly locked down. He doesn’t believe that Europe and the United States want peace, he is convinced that there is a shadowy deep state in Europe and the US that holds a consistent foreign policy across multiple administrations across multiple countries, and he see that foreign policy being to subjugate or destroy Russia.

The man has surrounded him self with conspiracy theorists, from disciples of Lyndon LaRouche to advocates of Eurasianism. He is detached from reality, swirling about a toilet bowl of yes men. He is not someone who can be compromised with or offered off ramps, he’s been repeatedly given off ramps and rejected them every time, thinking them to be traps.

The only end of this conflict is when internal power structures in Russia shift away from conspiracy theorists, or Russia’s ability to commit aggressive action is less than the defensive capabilities of its neighbors.

bAZtARd, in Greenland startup begins shipping glacier ice to cocktail bars in the UAE

I hate capitalism.

library_napper, in On TikTok, the war in Gaza is a game
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Hopefully will be evidence presented at the 2024 Israeli War Crimes Tribunal

DdCno1,

Is this before or after the Hamas war crimes tribunal?

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Before, since the atrocities are much greater in scale

0x815,

<a href="">@DdCno1</a>

Is this before or after the Hamas war crimes tribunal?

They can do that before or after, but I hope they do both soon. There is no difference between Hamas and Israel’s right-wing government led by Netanyahu.

DdCno1,

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  • library_napper,
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    No, its been over 7 decades

    DdCno1,

    Because it was Israel’s fault they were attacked on all sides in 1948. I guess this at that point one day old nation shouldn’t have worn such a short, Jewish skirt.

    library_napper, (edited )
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    They were attacked because they stole like half of Palestinians land. Palestinians didn’t even get to participate in the UN vote.

    Two countries that were recently partitioned by the UN and suffered massive violence as a result (India/Pakistan) both voted against annexing half of Palestine to create Israel.

    Yes, the Nakba was Israel’s fault. And they still need to return the land that they stole

    DdCno1,

    Are you seriously suggesting that none of this land belongs to the Jews and that they should all just leave?

    library_napper,
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    No, land cannot belong to a religion.

    Dont confuse Israel with Jews.

    DdCno1,

    There are 49 Muslim majority countries, but just one tiny Jewish-majority one. Why is it such a problem that it exists?

    library_napper,
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    Ethno States are a problem.

    DdCno1,

    Everyone else got one though. Maybe they are not the worst idea for the most persecuted ethnicity in the world.

    0x815,

    <a href="">@DdCno1</a>

    From your comments one can easily infer that you didn’t even click the link.

    t3rmit3, (edited )

    Why do I suspect that even if we said, “after”, you would still turn around and object to these Israeli assholes being held accountable if tribunals came to pass?

    DdCno1,

    Because we all know that’s what war crime trials are for, some stupid, but ultimately irrelevant acts of vandalism.

    t3rmit3,

    No, war crime trials are for their other abuses, like killing a record number of journalists, aid workers, doctors, and of course women and children. War crime trials are for cutting off food and water to civilians, and bombing civilian infrastructure. War crime trials are for funneling civilians into “safe zones”, and then bombing them.

    But you know that. You just don’t care, as long as the monsters you support win instead of the monsters you don’t support.

    DdCno1,

    I don’t think you are aware of just how small this war is in terms of death toll compared to other wars that are currently going on. There is however a disproportionate number of articles (and thus also journalists) covering it:

    i.imgur.com/PosjdJ9.png

    This doesn’t meant that one should discard the suffering of the civilians caught in the crossfire. It’s horrible and I weep for every innocent who has to suffer because of the decision a small number of terrorists made - but it’s one thing to acknowledge that they died in this conflict and demand both parties to protect civilians and another entirely to claim that Israel is responsible for a record number of war crimes. Not every dead civilian is a war crime. Neither is not supplying your enemy with resources nor is bombing civilian infrastructure that is being used for military purposes. These safe zones were also established to protect civilians from the bulk of the ground fighting. At no point did Israel make the unrealistic promise that they would be safe from bombs. Given that Hamas operates from there and uses these places to stage massed unguided rocket attacks against civilians in Israel, this would be entirely unrealistic. Nobody in their right mind would deny Israel the right to strike these targets. You would do the same if you were in their place.

    t3rmit3, (edited )

    You are either willfully ignorant about how wrong what you’re saying is, or you are truly a lost cause.

    I don’t think you are aware of just how small this war is in terms of death toll compared to other wars that are currently going on.

    And I don’t think you realize just how many insane ratios this war is producing. For being so small, it is resulting in more aid worker, doctor, and journalist deaths than other, much larger wars. It has resulted in level of destruction (e.g. 60% of homes damaged) that hasn’t existed since WW2. The sheer percentages of children being killed versus adults (nevermind combatants), is just staggering.

    If your only defense is to say, “but who cares about ratios and percentages?”, then you’re just arguing that it’s okay to genocide small groups.

    And you want to talk actual numbers? More children were killed by Israel in the first 3 weeks of their brutal assault than have died in all global conflicts combined annually, since 2019. That was when the child death toll was “only” 3,400. Now it’s thousands more.

    But I’m suuuuuure you’re just weeping non-stop for them, right?

    Neither is not supplying your enemy with resources

    They are denying civilians water and food, and Israel is not the ones supplying those resources anyways, other countries are, and Israel is blocking them.

    nor is bombing civilian infrastructure that is being used for military purposes

    Which the water infra and power plants were not, but they were bombed anyways (and to be clear, Israel has never claimed that they were used to launch attacks, before you try to pull that out of your bum).

    At no point did Israel make the unrealistic promise that they would be safe from bombs.

    Ah yes, unrealistic to not bomb civilians. Of course. So smart. Why even have stipulations about war crimes, since apparently no one in a warzone can expect not to be killed indiscriminately anyways? Checkmate, human rights!

    Given that Hamas operates from there

    Hamas doesn’t “operate” from the 60% of residential buildings that have been damaged in Gaza, any more than the IDF could be said to “operate” from Israeli neighborhoods. Israel has shown no evidence (and in fact has been shown to have been dead wrong with their claims, such as at al-Shifa) that they are using the refugee camps and homes and businesses that Israel bombed to launch rockets (if they were all actually rocket launch sites, where were all the people actually living?). Simply having your soldiers live somewhere doesn’t make it a valid target, otherwise the rocket attacks into Israel are all justified too.

    There’s a reason that Israel is rapidly losing support on the world stage, and why it’s going to find itself a pariah state before too long.

    You would do the same if you were in their place.

    When you wake up and find that most of the world is rejecting your country’s claims of conducting a war legitimately, perhaps you should question why, rather than rushing to spew out half-baked justifications and appeals to empathize with an abused group becoming the abusers.

    DdCno1,

    It has resulted in level of destruction (e.g. 60% of homes damaged) that hasn’t existed since WW2.

    You need to ignore lots of wars to come to this conclusion. Korea would be one immediately after WW2 that makes this one look like child’s play. More recently, the wars in Chechnya, the Syrian civil war, the Sudanese civil war, the civil war in Myanmar, etc. pp. are all vastly more destructive. There is a single death camp in Syria where Assad had up to 13,000 people murdered.

    The sheer percentages of children being killed versus adults (nevermind combatants), is just staggering.

    Could this be, because Hamas produces fake numbers to weaponize outrage against Israel? Read this:

    nitter.net/Aizenberg55/…/1731753062622982386

    Israel is not the ones supplying those resources anyways, other countries are, and Israel is blocking them.

    Nonsense. Israel was supplying a significant portion of the strip’s power and electricity, as well as bringing in regular supplies of fuel and food. They stopped this on October 7. Israel has since continued this, even though they are not obliged, and also permitted foreign aid through the border crossing with Egypt. Meanwhile, Hamas have openly stolen a significant portion of these supplies, which is the actual reason why Israel stopped them in the first place. Hamas are the ones stealing from civilians and causing their suffering.

    water infra and power plants

    There’s only one power plant in Gaza, but you seem to have adopted the Hamas method of just making things up for outrage. I guess it’s rubbing off on you. As for the water infrastructure, do I need to remind you that Hamas is using water pipes to create unguided rockets to fire at Israeli population centers? That’s the actual indiscriminate bombing that few people are willing to talk about.

    Why even have stipulations about war crimes, since apparently no one in a warzone can expect not to be killed indiscriminately anyways?

    These rules are meant to not encourage the use of human shields, because this turns every group of civilians into a potential target. This isn’t difficult to understand - or at least it shouldn’t be. Many of the regulations of the Geneva Conventions are the least terrible solutions to awful questions. That’s sadly how the world works.

    Hamas doesn’t “operate” from the 60% of residential buildings that have been damaged in Gaza

    In a single so-called refugee camp in Northern Gaza (it’s a normal suburb with houses - it merely inherited the status due to unique UN rules that solely exist for Palestinians and no other people), almost half of all buildings were rigged with explosives. I’m sure whenever Hamas blows one of these up, it gets added to the amount blamed on Israel, just like when one of the 20% of rockets fired from Gaza falls on Gaza instead of hitting a random target in Israel.

    Israel has shown no evidence

    Here’s a video that shows rockets being launched right from the middle of a refugee camp:

    old.reddit.com/…/footage_shows_hamas_launching_ro…

    That’s just one of countless pieces of evidence that you choose to ignore in favor of that one-sided victim narrative of yours.

    and in fact has been shown to have been dead wrong with their claims, such as at al-Shifa

    You mean where they found weapons and a tunnel with an armored door with a firing port? That one? Or the al-Shifa hospital where a surveillance camera recording shows terrorists bringing in a hostage? Or was that a different al-Shifa?

    Simply having your soldiers live somewhere doesn’t make it a valid target, otherwise the rocket attacks into Israel are all justified too.

    I can tell you are not even trying to argue in good faith.

    your country’s claims

    I’m not Israeli.

    half-baked justifications

    At least I’m not ignoring evidence that is right in the open.

    Let me ask you this: How should Israel have reacted to the terror attack on October 7? What would, in your eyes, an appropriate, justified response look like? Please be honest.

    t3rmit3, (edited )

    You mean where they found weapons and a tunnel with an armored door with a firing port?

    Yes, that one. The one where all that was behind that door was a room with 2 cots and a table, where Israel had claimed (complete with a fancy 3D animation) that there was an entire multi-level command center with tens of rooms, housing potentially hundreds of Hamas fighters. That one, that didn’t exist.

    Or the al-Shifa hospital where a surveillance camera recording shows terrorists bringing in a hostage?

    This is always such a weird argument. Yeah, of course Hamas brought the hostage there for treatment. They were trying to keep them alive. They’re also the government in Gaza, so it would be no different than Israeli military bringing one of their hostages to an Israeli hospital. Are you under the impression that hospitals that treat war wounded are military targets?

    Let me ask you this: How should Israel have reacted to the terror attack on October 7? What would, in your eyes, an appropriate, justified response look like? Please be honest.

    First I’d say that Netanyahu should stop giving funds to and allowing funds to flow to Hamas in order to prop them up as a bid to prevent a peaceful 2-state solution.

    Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

    Then, I’d say they should have conducted a ground invasion backed with actually targeted strikes on Hamas targets using precision weapons that the US is so enamored with.

    and also permitted foreign aid through the border crossing with Egypt

    Permitted a pittance, after blocking all of it initially.

    I’m not Israeli.

    That just makes your caping for their genocide and ethnic cleansing even more ridiculous.

    t3rmit3, in Unguided ‘dumb bombs’ used in almost half of Israeli strikes on Gaza (Gifted article - no pay wall)

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    t3rmit3,

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    aniki, in Greenland startup begins shipping glacier ice to cocktail bars in the UAE

    Death threats don’t go far enough.

    Tristaniopsis, in Greenland startup begins shipping glacier ice to cocktail bars in the UAE

    This sounds SUPER sustainable. And THANK GOODNESS the superior humans of the UAE get to drink their hypocritical cocktails with whacky ice!!!

    kittenroar, (edited ) in Biden says Netanyahu must change, Israel losing global support

    Sounds like a lot of hot air coming from the guy who bypassed congress to float an extra $106,000,000 so the IDF can use more guns and bombs on civilians.

    I used to be a vote blue no matter who, afraid of Trump fascism, but a statement must be made that this is not okay.

    raccoona_nongrata,
    @raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org avatar

    Yea, until we see him actually with holding aid under the condition they end the genocide his words don’t mean anytjing.

    Especially since he just doubled down on the quote that’s dogged him where he said he was a zionist earlier in his career. A few days ago he just re-affirmed bluntly that he is and believes Israel is “the only safe place for Jews” as a justification for Israel to continue murdering children.

    Zworf, (edited )

    He’s already walked it back again anyway. www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/…/ar-AA1lqsz4

    It was probably just a gesture to appease his moderate backers consdering he’s doing pretty badly in the polls.

    Plume, in German prosecutors charge 27 over alleged far-right plot to topple government

    It feels so good to see countries not tolerating the far right. As a French, they’re basically everywhere now, everyone on talks like the Far Right on TV, now. My country has gotten so complacent with it…

    I hope Germany keeps doing this and more act accordingly.

    valgarf,

    I fear your optimism ist unwarranted. The far right is attracting more and more voters here.

    The ones arrested are not the far right you see on TV. They are conspiracy nuts who want to return to the time Germany had an emperor. They planned a revolution and hoarded weapons.

    Probably wanted to regain the old empire’s territory as well, especially the regions belonging to France now…

    Intelligence_Gap,

    Have you seen American news? Were on the fast track to electing a guy who lead a coup and said he wanted to be a dictator

    valgarf,

    I follow US news a little. You seem to be much further along on your way to abolish democracy. But to be fair, the “winner takes it all” voting mechanism and resulting two party system really helps in dividing a country.

    Also “hoarding weapons” seems to be an acceptable pasttime in the US.

    corsicanguppy, in Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after section blows out mid-air

    Ground them for defects, keep them grounded because they’re absolute shit planes.

    Faydaikin, in These are the most liveable cities in Europe
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    Seeing my city at the top just kinda makes me sad. Not that it’s not a nice place to live, but it does make me worry about everywhere else.

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