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ThirdWorldOrder, in Jerusalem Catholic Patriarch offers to be exchanged for Gaza hostages

I mean, you’re the one sharing the news lmao.

blunderworld, in American leftists are celebrating Hamas?

Not approving of Israel’s completely disproportionate response, in particular the mass killing of palestinian civilians – bordering on genocide – is not the same as supporting Hamas.

Tolookah,

It’s always been that way though. Any sentiment that isn’t 110% pro Israel is considered as anti Israel.

megopie, in American leftists are celebrating Hamas?

This video is such garbage. Like, the left is not celebrating this attack? Like what?

What a ridiculous position to group together an entire half of the political discourse on the internet and claim that everyone in that half has the same position.

fosforus,

Like, adl.org/…/fringe-left-groups-express-support-hama…

But I guess you wanted me to explicitly say that “some left” are doing that. That’s fine. It is indeed a fringe portion of the left, and also not everybody on the right are hateful nazis.

Dio,
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Psst. You can’t speak facts to people. They don’t enjoy that. >;\

ulkesh,
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The linked site is a blog, not sure how that constitutes fact. Pointing out bullshit isn’t being against facts, it’s being against bullshit. And conflating the two shows both bias and bullshit.

EthicalAI,

This article already seems disingenuous. DSA Salt Lake City Utah’s Statement on Palestine slcdsa.org/…/salt-lake-dsa-statement-in-support-o… does not mention Hamas killing civilians let alone justify it. It vaguely uses the quote they cite to say that Palestine has a right to self defense, and even offense, which it does. I do not believe that this right includes the right to commit war crimes like killing civilians. We vote on statements in DSA, and such a statement certainly would not get my vote, but this statement is not that.

adespoton, in a massive raid of Geraniums has begun on Ukraine

Was something lost in translation? What is a “raid of geraniums?” I presume we’re not talking about Russia stealing Ukraine’s flowers?

Kualk, (edited )

Name of plane like drones produced in Russia using Iranian license.

Noisy and slow, but cheap. I think original name is Shahed drones.

beesyrup,

Geran-2 is the russian licensed copy of the Shahed-136

Kualk, in a massive raid of Geraniums has begun on Ukraine

All attacks are targeting airfields.

My guess this will render air support missions impossible for at least a few days.

Air support has the best chance to impact (to stop) ongoing Russian offensive.

It also has the highest chance to damage All available Ukrainian air power.

sdx, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend
hassanmckusick,

The IDF said that just like they said there were a bunch of decapitated babies before they walked that lie back

sdx,

What other purpose do you think the trucks barring the route south could serve?

hassanmckusick,

What?

No that’s exactly what they’re for. But there’s no proof in that tweet of who put them there

sdx,

Who do you think put them there on the coastal road?

hassanmckusick,

I’m sorry is Hamas Aqua-Man now? Wtf does proximity to the ocean have to do with anything?

zerfuffle,

IDF reliability in reporting is at an all-time low.

Five, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

Egypt refuses foreigners passage from Gaza except as part of aid agreement

Ahram Online , Saturday 14 Oct 2023

Egyptian authorities have refused the passage of foreign residents of Gaza through the Rafah crossing, except as part of a foreign aid delivery agreement, Al-Qahera News TV reported, citing informed sources.

zerfuffle,

Not surprising, Egypt cannot handle 2 million refugees and once the Palestinians leave, there’s no way Israel is letting them back.

Five, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend
dark_stang, in Konrad Wolf Prize 2023 goes to Julian Assange for his work and disclosure of "illegal state actions, injustices, murders and war crimes"
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Asange plays favorites and has an agenda. I want him to expose all the shady activities, not just the stuff he thinks will help Trump win an election.

0x815,

Assange hasn’t been playing anything for years as he is imprisoned in the UK fighting his extradition to the U.S. while in other parts of the world he is being awarded -once again- for his journalistic work. He may or may not have an agenda, but the issue here is something else.

ram, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend
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CBC | As Israel expands Gaza offensive, it has lonely critics in Washington^(^^direct^^)^

As Israel expands its military offensive in Gaza, some Democrats in the US are expressing growing criticism of Israeli actions. Younger progressive Democrats have been more vocal in calling for civilian protections and a ceasefire. However, support for Israel remains strong among both Democratic and Republican leadership as well as the general public. While progressive critics want to see Palestinian lives prioritized, Israel sees no viable negotiating partner with Hamas controlling Gaza. The article discusses the long history of US support for Israel since its founding and changing views over time. Some analysts believe criticism from the left lacks real political power but could influence younger voters. Ultimately both sides express pessimism about prospects for peace given the deep tensions and lack of trust between Israelis and Palestinians.

It’s evidenced in the vote in the last U.S. Congress to top up American funding for Israel’s missile-defence system: a lopsided result of 420 to 9.

I checked who voted which way, and the following were Nay votes:

  • Cori Bush (D)
  • André Carson (D)
  • Jesús G. “Chuy” García (D)
  • Raúl M. Grijalva (D)
  • Thomas Massie (R)
  • Marie Newman (D)
  • Ilhan Omar (D)
  • Ayanna Pressley (D)
  • Rashida Tlaib (D)

Present:

  • Henry C. “Hank” Johnson, Jr. (D)
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D)

No Vote:

  • Debbie Lesko (R)
p03locke, in Konrad Wolf Prize 2023 goes to Julian Assange for his work and disclosure of "illegal state actions, injustices, murders and war crimes"
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Sure, let’s give it to the Russian asset.

Five, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

Noura Erakat: Western Leaders & Media Are Justifying Israel’s “Genocidal Campaign” Against Palestinians

The unfolding crisis in Gaza, where relentless Israeli bombardment has killed more than 1,500 people since Saturday, is “a humanitarian catastrophe,” says Palestinian American human rights attorney Noura Erakat. She says Western leaders and the mainstream media have relied on racist, Islamophobic tropes to build a false consensus “that war is inevitable and that whatever consequences come out is the fault of Hamas, thereby further blaming the victims for their own killing and massacres.” Erakat also decries the Israeli order that 1.1 million residents in Gaza relocate under threat of a ground invasion. “What we are seeing is a genocidal campaign. You cannot forcibly transfer 1.1 million Palestinians in a 225-square-mile enclosed area. There is nowhere for them to go,” says Erakat, an associate professor at Rutgers University and author of Justice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine.

Five, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

Seattle Rabbi David Basior Eulogizes Former Congregant Killed by Hamas, Says Occupation Must End

As more details emerge about the shocking Hamas attack on Saturday, we speak with Rabbi David Basior of Kadima Reconstructionist Community, a progressive Jewish group in Seattle focused on social justice. Basior’s former congregant Hayim Katsman was among those killed in Israel by Hamas militants who stormed Kibbutz Holit. The 32-year-old was a gardener, mechanic and peace activist who worked with anti-occupation groups. During the attack, he shielded a woman from bullets with his own body, saving her life at the cost of his own. Katsman’s family have said that he would not have wanted his death to fuel retribution against Palestinians. “Life is the utmost. It is the most core teaching that I have received from my tradition, from my ancestors,” says Basior, who evokes the phrase “never again,” used in remembrance of the Holocaust and other genocides, and says that precept means the violence against Palestinians “must be spoken out against.”

sdx, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend
Krauerking,

Oh come on… Who wants to commit war crimes on a dreary day? Let’s get some sun in here so the IDF can really see the blood spray as they shoot civilians.

iHUNTcriminals, in Australia rejects proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in constitution
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