The IDF spends a lot of time trying to jam Tiktok because unlike an American-run company it’s not so easy to pull down everything supportive of Palestinian rights. I’ve seen more first-hand footage from the people being ethnically cleansed on Tiktok than anywhere else. Tiktok had live updates of the infants suffocating to death after they cut the power from Al-Shifa hospital and their generators ran out, and it was Palestinians themselves reporting on the situation moment by moment. That would not be allowed on Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, or Instagram.
I think it’s moreso that TikTok’s algorithms, whatever that black box may contain, are far better for discoverability than those of all the other platforms.
It’s guided by what each individual viewer wants to see (or hates to see, if they can’t resist interacting with videos they hate), so small media bubbles are created for better or worse, but Tiktok will hand on-the-ground news reported by Palestinians to people who want to see it without those viewers having to look for it or know it’s there to be looked for.
By contrast, if you go to youtube, you might see whatever shows up in the general “popular” tab, or you might enter a search for Palestinian news (which requires you to be actively looking for it in the first place vs just there and able to be shown it) but you’re likely to get mainly clips from major US news channels, with their framing of the situation, and maybe some Israeli ones. Not the heaps of videos by random individuals that you’ll find on TikTok. Even if that type of video is uploaded, youtube won’t recommend it if it’s from a new channel and doesn’t already clock a bazillion views. But TikTok can make a little video from a random person go from zero to everywhere very quickly.
TikTok in general is just better for finding “man on the street”/“what is it like to be there right now” reports from affected individuals. As well as for finding other own-voices type videos by individuals who aren’t media stars or news reporters or the hosts of big youtube channels, but who are the ones most directly in a situation.
Of course there is bias or outright misinformation on the platform too. It is best approached with caution and media literacy, but one need only look at U.S. media’s coverage of the current situation to see that is the case for mainstream news organizations too.
TikTok is a master example of enshittification, which consists in:
Offer users a good experience to hook them up
Introduce advertisements to hook up advertisers
Have hooked up advertisers bid against each other for a place in a users feed
Increase user engagement by showing them both what they like and the opposite
Tease users with a chance to earn money (taking just a 50% cut), so they get to compete against the advertisers, and each other, for a place in other users feeds
The discoverability on TikTok is abysmally bad, all you will ever find is either paid content, or content made by users trying to outdo each other in a race to attract/outrage (aka: increase your engagement).
Only thing you can easily discover on TikTok, is the most polarizing content possible, there is about exactly zero chance to get a realistic view into anything through TikTok; not even by averaging the extremes, which are custom tailored to your personal love/hate triggers.
I wonder if it’ll get to a point where some of the world leaders still backing Israel financially and with munitions actually have to do something. Like, is there any amount of cruelty and atrocity at this point that they won’t fund? Does it literally have to get all the way to concentration camps? Overt industrialized systematic genocide? Where’s their line?
The line is where the people in their own countries force them to stop supporting Israel while atrocities continue. This is why speaking up, in your communities, on social media, by joining protests and by boycotting companies that support the IDF, is so important. People outside Israel can not make the IDF stop. But we can pressure our governments to deny any further support for Israel or better yet sanction key players, to pressure Israel into stopping.
Holy shit that's horrendous. And not such a propaganda win as they might think.
Tiktok also has millions of young people who support Palestine. You can't search directly but they pop up all over the place, often with a watermelon filter.
If the IDF are flooding TikTok with war-crime-adjacent content it's no wonder the majority of Gen Z is so opposed to Israel.
@ninjan Clearly not, lol, not at all. The guy is not a newcomer in politics, either. He's previously served as a prime-minister until 2014 and then has been the President of the European Council, so I'm not seeing him go anywhere close to Donald Trump, unless I'm missing something.
your own picture shows 16°C and the days in question had 13-15°C in the morning and evening.
If you sit idle without clothes for hours even in 17°C you will get cold as fuck. If it would have been 5°C this could have caused serious medical issues. If it would have been freezing, some of them could have reached life threatening hypothermia.
If it would have been 5°C this could ave caused serious medical issues. it would have been freezing, some of them could have reached life threatening hypothermia.
If it would have been hailing they could have been knocked unconscious.
If there was a hurricane they could have been dashed against the concrete walls.
If there was a meteorite they could have been pulverised.
If they didn’t have dicks they could have been women.
If they were 5 years old they would have been children.
If they had long necks and four legs they could have been giraffes.
No, it shows 21⁰C. Why are you looking at the minimum temperature? That is totally irrelevant.
You can see from the photo that it is the middle of a winter’s day (sun is slightly lowered in the sky in winter at midday, not directly overhead).
On Thursday, a video emerged of men rounded up, forced to stand in formation, and then to sit down in the street
So let’s get even more accurate. That particular Thursday it was 22⁰C in the shade. Perfect temperature to be sitting out in the sun comfortably as it happens.
This was far down in the story therefore many of you may have missed it…
We do know that some of these men were released after having been detained initially. One of Hani’s cousins was released after a couple of hours in detention. So it may be that many of these men that we’ve seen in these videos have since been released by Israel…
This is northern Gaza we’re talking about. They were given an evacuation order, and it might be that the Israelis feel anyone who remains poses a threat because they didn’t leave.
This is a direct consequence of two things: Hamas not wearing uniforms in combat and their tendency to use suicide bombers. They are told to undress themselves before processing - they don’t stay that way.
How would any of the people criticizing this deal with a large group of fighting age men in a war zone?
No, it’s based on safety. You can’t give them their own clothing back, because this would require you to check each and every item of clothing for weapons. They are being transported to a processing location, given clothing there. Temperatures were around 20° C (68° F) there when these videos and photos were taken, so it’s not like they were freezing.
You may not want to “check for weapons” a suicide bomber who’s just waiting for you to come close to turn you both into tiny chunks of meat.
What you want, is to threaten them with a weapon from a distance, have them take off any clothes that could contain explosives (that includes socks and briefs), and throw them far away from you. They could still hide some C4 up their ass, but that’s a risk you might have to take.
The correct thing would be to subsequently provide them with pre-checked clothes, like an orange jumpsuit… so if they didn’t, that’s where we may agree it starts being abusive (although unfortunately in line with what many countries routinely do to their prisoners).
Why would they be conservative ? I do agree with you that this thread is full of people trying to justify the unjustifiable, but let me remind you the party in power providing its full unquestionable support for Israel is the Democrat party, spearheaded by Biden, a Democrat president, who is very, very happy and supportive with all this. So being a douche is a bit all over the place if you ask me. You can’t necessarily point at douchebaggery and instantly realize it’s conservative.
Firstly this is a non-story of try-hard outrage. Secondly, the real concern of bombing was addressed just today by Biden who sees through Bibi’s ultra-conservative agenda and publicly criticised him for it.
It feels so good to see countries not tolerating the far right. As a French, they’re basically everywhere now, everyone on talks like the Far Right on TV, now. My country has gotten so complacent with it…
I hope Germany keeps doing this and more act accordingly.
I fear your optimism ist unwarranted. The far right is attracting more and more voters here.
The ones arrested are not the far right you see on TV. They are conspiracy nuts who want to return to the time Germany had an emperor. They planned a revolution and hoarded weapons.
Probably wanted to regain the old empire’s territory as well, especially the regions belonging to France now…
I follow US news a little. You seem to be much further along on your way to abolish democracy. But to be fair, the “winner takes it all” voting mechanism and resulting two party system really helps in dividing a country.
Also “hoarding weapons” seems to be an acceptable pasttime in the US.
same gender parents lose parentaln rights in a hearthbeat but abusive parents?, noooo, family is everything, child need them, even if gonna fuck them up mentally and create tons of trauma
My favourite part is when the conservatives start talking about all children absolutely needing mother and father. Not just parents, not a parent, not a family; mother and father specifically. Yeah, sure, now what about the millions of single parents? Shall we start forcefully assigning a new spouse of opposite sex to them the day after their current spouse dies, divorces (if we keep that as an option, that is), runs away or whatever? All pregnant people who are not in a relationship are immediately married off to a random person of opposite sex? No opt-out. Because think of the children!
Single mothers in particular used to have a hard time in the past, not just due to the economic challenge, but also due to government harassment. I recall reading an article about how they routinely had their children taken away in 1950s and '60s West Germany, with the kids being forced to grow up in often abusive church-run orphanages. I don’t think Germany was the exception in this regard.
My own father was put in such a place for just a few days when his married mother was hospitalized and his father was unable to care for the toddler due to his work. He still has nightmares about the abuse he had to endure from the nuns there.
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