Mastodon has user defined word filters, you can completely mute this crap (of course people love misspelling his name).
I wish lemmy/kbin would get something similar it's really annoying to have this fucker in my feed daily.
On Thursday afternoon a stabbing incident in Dublin saw three children and an adult injured near a school, which some people blamed on the government’s immigration policy.
Police say right-wing agitators were behind violent protests which followed the stabbing, bringing angry mobs onto the streets of the city centre, burning vehicles and smashing windows amid a wave of anti-immigrant sentiment.
I have my suspicions about where Musk’s sympathies lie.
Yes but what did Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and Ben Shapiro have to say about it? What about David Duke? Was he unavailable for comment? You can't just go to Elon all the time, let's get some diversity of opinion in there.
Kinda seems like Ireland just hates itself right now. Can’t figure out how to support the terrorists in the middle east while stemming the terrorism they are claiming is happening at home.
Fascinating stuff in the land that introduced me to terrorism in my youth.
Strong leadership is needed to navigate that mess.
I have no clue what you are on about. Nobody - I repeat NOBODY - supports Hamas here. But, we do support the Palestinian people, who are lot of other nations seem to want to go away.
See, that’s what the Irish people have experience of: fucking terrorists carrying out atrocities in the name of the rest of us, while innocent people get caught in the crossfire when a larger nation tries to stamp them out. Which is being amplified a thousandfold in Gaza right now.
And about those fucking idiots up in Dublin last Thursday? Yeah, totally riled up by foreign influence themselves.
How can you say no one supports Hamas when there’s news clips and plenty of photos of Green flags being flown at rallys? There are unquestionably people who support Hamas amongst your countrymen.
If you supported the Palestinian people, you’d be supporting the removal of Hamas. I don’t agree with Israels tactics but I fully support their goals.
That’s very disingenuous of you to say. Did you not read my comment? Or did you cherry pick a single point to twist its meaning. I said that the Irish people were well versed in militant organisations committing atrocities in their name. Who do you think might be hoisting hamas flags?
Look, we all know this is hideously complex, with bad actors and innocent victims on both sides. But how can you support Israel when they are continuing to settle Palestinian land with government-protected settlers, demolishing the entire region, killing innocent civilians.
You know what stopped the troubles in NI in the end? Diplomacy.
I read your comment to the point where you lost credibility. You’re saying no one supports them when there is clear support. Take a step into reality and then the conversation can continue.
Both sidesing this is fucking bullshit too. One side is clearly saying they’re not going to stop. Once they are removed there’s a chance for diplomacy.
Oh my god are you still on the hamas flags that the Ira used to march with? I’m sure if you look close enough you’ll find Israelis who support Hamas. If you can find a verified, recent photo, I’ll believe you. But it’s certainly not widespread and not mainstream.
And how many times did the Ira and the uda say they’d never come to the table? Diplomacy works. And without wiping out a population, it’s the only thing that works.
Hamas is still saying they’re going to massacre Jews. They’re saying it on TV in Arabic for everyone to hear.
When they stop calling for genocide, the deaths will stop. They’re not going to do that though, they have less respect for human life than you seem to be able to acknowledge.
That you’re defending those who carry the flags of terrorists is utterly disgusting but you’ve already established who you are with your comments so I’m past being surprised. That you’re intentionally ignoring what the world witnessed just reinforces your bigotry for anyone who sees your comments.
What the absolute fuck, you’re wilfully not understanding me.
I said that the Irish people were well versed in militant organisations committing atrocities in their name. Who do you think might be hoisting hamas flags?
how is that defending anyone carrying terrorist flags? The exact opposite: they’re fuckwits, who have no say in Irish political discourse any longer. But in the recent pro-Palestinian marches in Ireland, there were Palestinian flags, but no Hamas flags.
How can anyone expect a terrorist organisation to stand down when every atrocity is reciprocated ten-fold? Logically, that sort of response just leads to escalation.
All of Gaza is not Hamas. The vast majority are not combatants in a war. They’re just normal people, caught in the crossfire, watching their homes get destroyed, dying. That’s who I support. Fuck Hamas. Fuck war.
I’m hearing you loud and clear. you’re covering for terrorists and their supporters. End of story. Trying to obfuscate or deflect doesn’t work and it’s plainly obvious that the Irish see an ally in those who shoot pregnant women waiting at bus stops.
Also, and you’re likely intentionally ignoring the fact that gazans overwhelmingly approve of Hamas attack on October 7, based on the polls released last week. So yet again you’re providing cover for terrorists. Seems like a theme with you. The claim that Palestinians aren’t Hamas or don’t support them is fading by the day. The mother fucking UNRWA teachers are holding hostages, to reinforce how deep the rot is. That’s not to say all gazans or Palestinians are Hamas, that’s clearly not the case. Far too many of them are though and far too many who aren’t will die because of their fellow gazans actions.
I’m going to leave it there mate. Too many logical fallacies to even bother any more. Good luck to you, hope you’re delighted when the Israeli forces have “accidentally” bombed the last of their own hostages so they don’t have to hold back any more.
Not much of a surprise given how far Boris Johnson’s nose was up Russian rear ends. His election campaign advisor (and Brexit pioneer) Dominic Cummings used to live in Russia before he popped up on the UK political scene, then towards the end of Johnson’s tenure he was given a tour of the UK’s nuclear weapons facilities for some reason. When it came to Russia’s initial invasion, the UK issued sanctions against Russian banks - except for a 28 day exemption to Russia’s biggest bank. The end of this exemption coincided with Russia making their first withdrawal, and I’m not sure the sanction was ever put into place.
Are we counting all the suicides due to the ex girlfriend’s actions, or the ones who die in situations instigated by women, like when she lies about something and the males in her family seek retribution? Those stats seem suspiciously absent from articles like these. Proxy violence is routinely ignored
If we’re going to advocate against domestic violence, we should include all its forms and not carefully gerrymander the definition
Me when I see a serious issue being brought up “BuT wHaT aBoUt ThAt OtHeR iSsUe”
Feel free to make a post about androcide, to start a conversation and get data, but only ever bringing it up when femicides are discussed is a tactic that only serves to stall conversations and make sure nothing gets done for anyone.
Or people could stop making not gendered issues into gendered issues, like the sexist fucks they are. There’s a very specific and insidious reason the narrative has switched from “domestic violence” to “violence against women” despite women being provably more safe than men in 99% of contexts, and only a minuscule fraction of deaths by violence. It’s a sexist intentional exclusion of an entire gender, for no good reason.
Ah yes, the famous sexism against dudes that every Italian man experiences in their daily life. In a country where famously women’s privilege has always trumped men and 99% of men are suffering from domestic abuse. I quite remember it too having grown up in Rome and Naples.
My man, Italy has always had a massive issue with femicides and violence against women. There’s an article right there above these comments with some numbers to start with, there are other sources as well. I’d be happy to see the numbers for 99% of cases where men are being abused by their partner more than women, and if the issue is indeed this massive than please make a post and let’s discuss it as well as how to fix it. I’m sure you’ve been discussing it and trying to do something about it every day, but bringing it up when the very gendered issue of femicides in Italy is brought up is just bad form, please link me to your post!
Just curious. Why do you think young men turn to violence when they feel like they’ve lost control of a situation? Do you think they do it because it’s just in their nature, or because many might have found themselves in situations where discussion gets ignored, pleading makes things worse, running inspires pursuit, and aggression made it all stop?
I’m not saying this to diminish the problem of domestic violence against women, or as an attempt to argue against any of the statistics. I just think angrily blaming men for violence rather than attempting to understand how such a problem manifests in the first place will not make anything safer for anyone.
(I hope I don’t regret jumping in on this discussion.)
Oh by all means there’s really no problem if you’re genuine in your question. And yes it’s 100% undeniable that all the issues are linked to one another just because society do be like that. But my issue with the other guy is that whataboutism is a real tactic that halts discussions and it really felt like they were in bad faith assessing that 99% of times men recieved more conjugal violence than women.
Anywya yeah to get back on point your question is absolutely valid! And actual movement for social change and feminism doesn’t just angrily blame men with no reason, toxic male socialization is a real problem for men as well as women, stunting their emotional growth/fostering anger as the only good emotion/not allowing them to express themselves while simultaneously putting a lot of pressure on being “a real man” that gets the girl, gets the job done without complaining and makes money while having time for family. It’s extremely harmful especially with the existence of “alpha male” gurus preying on those feelings. Italy has a double wammy of the religion with the church and the Vatican being right there and it’s influence is very strong. These men need help and the unfair hand they’re dealt to be addressed. However only ever bringing it up when women’s issues are brought up is a bad faith use of a legitimate issue only aimed at stunting progress and conversation. Maybe it’s not the most elegant example but the barbie movie of last summer is an interesting example of a piece of media that addresses the fact that certain types of male socialization is harmful to everyone if you can approach it with an open mind.
There’s also an argument to be made for the point that women issues are also a touch more sensitive because while men do overall die the more brutal deaths and the most often, it is also due to the man dominated world we have created.
Maybe it’s not the most elegant example but the barbie movie of last summer is an interesting example of a piece of media that addresses the fact that certain types of male socialization is harmful to everyone if you can approach it with an open mind.
Imagine the same points being made in a different movie, without all that Barbie Girl Power. In a movie not marketed towards gals. Just doesn’t happen. Pretty much all the male hero arcs in (non-kid) media are geared towards the female gaze and phantasies, not issues actual men face. And why not of course we live in capitalism and that’s what sells the most tickets. No, “guy saves the day” doesn’t really get men off, by and large “the roof for once doesn’t need fixing and I can kick back” is way more attractive.
while simultaneously putting a lot of pressure on being “a real man” that gets the girl,
Meanwhile, gals are asking “where are all the real men gone”. Everyone is willing to tell you versions of “this is how it works” without actually understanding the issue, from “just open up” (which gets you ignored at best, cast out at worst), to “just punch everything”, which of course also doesn’t work.
There is a distinct lack of solutions, or even a desire to build a new tradition of behaviour that does not require ideological buy-in, or only works for abusive couples (like Dworkin and her victim). Things that align with instinct. E.g. you can’t simply demand non-violence and then only look at physical violence: What’s a guy to do if a gal becomes psychologically abusive? That’s the point where “Real men don’t hit woman, we tickle” then suddenly makes a ton of sense. You don’t get to attack me at my weak spot and not get a proportional response.
My two cents? Difference feminism has been dismissed prematurely. Of course, get rid of all the ancient toxic normative shit the groups that brought it up brought with them, but fail to include difference on a fundamental level and well-meant but absolutely counterproductive advise such as “just open up” will never vanish due to a structural incapability to see the other side as you insist that it’s the same as you: Way worse than essentialising a banana as a banana is essentialising it as an apple. That’s also how you get shit like the new Mulan: Because apparently the only way a gal can ever achieve anything is to be born magical so that she can fight like a guy. I mean it kinda works as a transmasc egg fantasy but they should’ve just kept the old story, or, better yet, not make a re-make at all, as the old story did show how a gal can, indeed, save the day, with brains and guts instead of brawn or magic (and of course the new one’s a Mary Sue but I wanted to complain about theme, not just shoddy writing). Am I beginning to rant? Probably better stop.
Female suicide, or the jealous ex killing a new partner, are not included either.
Domestic violence is a complex issue that “should” include, and address, a lot of cases that it currently doesn’t, but for some there is not even an idea on how to start addressing them… so I think it makes sense to tackle the obvious ones first: homicides.
Once we get that sorted out, with no more people thinking that “their” mate is “theirs” to do what they please with, like they do with “their” kids or “their” dogs, including putting them down whenever they wish… we might be able to get to the next issue.
What’s so annoying about this is that it’s so opportunistic and it’s a template we see the far right using in a lot of other places too. None of these people rioting care about the victims, they just want to create a bunch of xenophobic violence and fear.
You should always do a per Capita calculation with change in percent per month to see why 800 may be alarming.
Not to dismiss the Italian situation, I just don’t think that Finland needs to regard other nations problems with illegal immigrants before they decide what to do with their external border
According to some (right wing) outlets, Russia would be shoving immigrants into busses, shipping them towards the border, then giving them bicycles to go the rest of the way.
Apparently people consuming such sources, don’t realize that bus service is a normal thing in some countries, bicycles are more affordable than cars, many busses will carry them for you, and regular bus lines have more than enough capacity for over 200 people to travel every week.
Yeah the number if immigrants is very little even by our standards, but our right wing government is doing all it can to stoke fears of a Russian hybrid operation, just so that they get an excuse to shut down the border. Ironically, that’s exactly what Russia wants them to do because such disregard for human rights naturally inflames internal political tensions here.
There would be significantly less drama if we just took them in with due processing, but now that the racist nationalists party is in government with a spineless sack of shit as the PM, they’re not going to do that.
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