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mycatsays, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

So I’m an American expat living in Australia. Australia has had the option to file directly to ATO, electronically, longer than I’ve been here. (Google suggests since 1999? So, more than 20 years.) It’s an easy process if you have a straightforward tax return.

It never ceases to amaze me how far behind the rest of the world USA is in some things that just seem like really obvious solutions. Like… Why wouldn’t the IRS want to get tax returns filed directly from the tax payers, skipping the middleman? At least for simple returns. More simplicity, less confusion all around if they get everyone onto the same system. Less paper to wade through, by significantly reducing paper returns. Etc.

It just seems like such a no-brainer. But I guess that’s why it doesn’t work in the USA. >.<

ApexHunter, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

The article “conveniently” omits the names of pilot states and the eligibility criteria, so I dug them up:

The Direct File pilot is available to eligible taxpayers residing in Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.

You may be eligible to join the pilot if you live in a pilot state and report these items on your 2023 federal tax return:

Income

  • W-2 wage income
  • SSA-1099 Social Security and RRB -1099 railroad retirement income
  • 1099-G Unemployment compensation
  • 1099- INT Interest income of $1,500 or less

Credits

  • Earned Income Tax Credit
  • Child Tax Credit
  • Credit for Other Dependents

Deductions

  • Standard deduction
  • Student loan interest
  • Educator expenses

The pilot is not an option for if you:

  • Have other types of income, such as gig economy or business income
  • Itemize deductions
  • Claim other credits like the Child and Dependent Care Credit, Saver’s Credit or the Premium Tax Credit
otter, in Mexican cartel forces locals to pay for makeshift Wi-Fi under threat of death

This is an awful situation and I hope the people caught up in this make it out ok.

As respectfully as possible, I’m curious what the service and speeds are like for that price

Kid_Thunder, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

Finally. Intuit has been lobbying for years to keep this from happening.

Derrick Plummer, a spokesman for Intuit, said taxpayers can already file their taxes for free and there are online free-file programs available to some people. Individuals of all income levels can submit their returns for free via the mail.

A “direct-to-IRS e-file system is a solution in search of a problem, and that solution will unnecessarily cost taxpayers billions of dollars,” he said. “We will continue unapologetically advocating for American taxpayers and against a direct-to-IRS e-file system because it’s a bad idea.”

And who believes that crap anyway? Intuit markets their solution due to the complicated nature of anything outside of standard deductions and figuring out if you should itemize and how to do that.

Intuit has spent $25.6 million since 2006 on lobbying, H&R Block about $9.6 million and the conservative Americans for Tax Reform roughly $3 million.

Now if the states get on board for easy filing online, it'll be great.

GiddyGap, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

A spokeswoman for Intuit, Tania Mercado, criticized the direct file project as a “half-baked solution” and a waste of taxpayer money.

Yeah, screw you. You shouldn’t have to pay to file your taxes. End of story.

anachronist,

waste of taxpayer money

The existence of Intuit as a company has wasted taxpayers (checks notes) $14.37 billion dollars.

Hazzia,

Paying for the honor of either giving the government more money, or convincing them that they took too much and to give it back. But don’t worry, they’ll double check your work sometimes to make sure you gave them enough (fuck you if you gave them too much though). Oh, thinking “if they know how much I owed them anyway, why do I have to do this shit in the first place?” Fuck you, that’s why.

GiddyGap,

Oh, thinking “if they know how much I owed them anyway, why do I have to do this shit in the first place?”

They do that in pretty much all other developed countries. Never had to worry about filing taxes when I lived overseas. Just double check their work and forget about it until next year.

jarfil, (edited ) in Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after section blows out mid-air

@Hirom @Overzeetop

The plane was still climbing, this happened at an altitude of 16000ft when the cruise altitude for that flight is 30000ft:

This flight: www.flightaware.com/live/flight/…/tracklog

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/f44a1cd6-9c13-4ec0-9c8d-ba61c2432eee.webp

Previous flight: www.flightaware.com/live/flight/…/tracklog

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/740a71f1-4455-49a1-97ac-77bff87b33b3.webp

They usually keep the “seat belts” light on during ascent and descent because it’s when air pressures are changing (or you might run into a tree, or another airplane), while once at cruise altitude it is reasonably safe to take the seat belt off.

jarfil, in Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after section blows out mid-air

Seems like… the side fell off?

bdonvr, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

Ooh, I’m in one of those states. I’ll use this out of principle even though I don’t have too many issues with FreeTaxUSA

Strawberry,

I used FreeTaxUSA last year and after I entered all the info and had everything finished they said “cool we’ll file federally for free but if you want us to file your state tax then it’s gonna cost you like $30” and I gave in

AndrasKrigare,

The article is only talking about federal as well. The IRS doesn’t do anything with state taxes, so that’ll probably still cost money unless your state makes their own free solution.

Strawberry,

true

:(

LallyLuckFarm, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington State and Wyoming are participating.

It’s a shame more aren’t participating but I can see the reasoning behind staged access and iterative improvement. The real pity is that data they’ve already got won’t be preloaded in this stage. It would have been the nail in the coffin for Intuit and other companies’ predatory practices on lower income folks, at least as they exist currently.

taanegl,

Just New York and California alone. If the expected turnout is in the millions, one can only hope IBM isn’t behind the cloud infrastructure - word to Obama care.

Powderhorn,
@Powderhorn@beehaw.org avatar

Those plus Florida and Texas. Four most populous states in the country, with New York bringing up the rear.

mosiacmango, (edited )

I think this is why they are taking it slow.

After the ACA had such a bad start, the obama admin actually opened up "innovation" departments to invite technical experts to modernize goverment infastructure. Those teams have likely done a lot over the decade or so to prevent haphazard rollouts.

EDIT: looks like they work under the title of the “US digital corps” banner and are looking for people.

acockworkorange,

I know Tennessee has no income tax so maybe states with income tax would rather sit and watch first?

LallyLuckFarm,

My understanding is that this program only applies to federal taxes, so I’m not sure that the particular state’s income tax laws will have much bearing on selection for participation or which stage of rollout they’re added with.

acockworkorange,

I see. I got nothing, then.

Drusas, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

Couple decades too late is better than never.

tiredofsametab, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

I can't wait to use it, but it seems it doesn't support overseas income yet and I live full-time outside of the US (and yes we legally have to file taxes every year even if we won't owe anything).

iknowitwheniseeit,

Yes it has become increasingly difficult for me to file taxes abroad. For my 2021 taxes I had to print out and physically mail my return since for some reason the electronic filing failed. For my 2022 taxes every company I used to file taxes from in the past refused to take my non-American credit card. I couldn’t even access the free stuff, presumably due to some IP blocking.

Hopefully eventually the IRS will solve this and everyone who needs to file taxes can easily do it for free.

tiredofsametab,

I've been using H&R block, but every year shit breaks and I have to fight with them. Latest was that my NRA wife broke all their validations (despite it properly flagging her an NRA)

its_me_xiphos, (edited ) in Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after section blows out mid-air

I highly recommend you watch Netflix’s Downfall: The Case Against Boeing. The hostile takeover by McDonnell-Douglas trashed that company. I try to avoid flying in anything post-takeover that carries a Boeing name.

My administrative law professor, eons ago, worked as a supreme court clerk. Very smart person, very kind, and very neutral on anything political so no one could call him a hack when he shared his professional opinion. He halted class one day when the Max situation came up. He spent 3 hours devoted to his experiences with the FAA Regulatory apparatus, Airbus, and Boeing. He remarked about the redesign of the aircraft, engine placement, stalls, and how generational aircraft are inspected and approved. He went on to explain how Boeing had been, for years (since the hostile take over) been trying to push the boundaries of what was, and was not, an acceptable submission to the FAA for a speedy review as an updated generational aircraft, and was getting away with it. The documentary pretty much lays this out but profit margin, competition with Airbus, and hubris = QA/QC shortcuts as well as cost-savings shortcuts in design.

After all the reports came out, which that documentary I linked does an excellent job of detailing, I look back on that class and thank my lucky stars for the time I spent learning from that man. The 737 Max should have been an entirely new aircraft, with more rigorous scrutiny by regulators. But since it was just an “upgrade” it get away with major structural, software, and hydraulics changes without so much as a glance.

I try not to fly on anything from the post-takeover Boeing, and try to get on an Airbus whenever possible. An extra couple of bucks or a few extra layovers is worth it compared to being an example of why Boeing sucks.

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Out of everything out there, aircraft are NOT something to skimp and take shortcuts on. These fucks don’t care if we die on their aircraft if it means making shareholders a bit more money. God, I can’t wait for this system to fall apart.

its_me_xiphos, (edited )

I don’t work for Airbus, but they could crush Boeing by taking a profit hit and offering at-cost, financed replacements over the long term for anyone with a MAX. I imagine going that route could be cheaper than grounding all your aircraft or loosing one with all aboard.

Smoke,

I highly recommend you watch Netflix’s Downfall: The Case Against Boeing.

As a free alternative/companion, I would also suggest the PBS documentary Boeing’s Fatal Flaw, which features the CEO subtly throwing the pilots under the bus for one of the MCAS crashes.

its_me_xiphos,

I second the PBS documentary suggestion. The documentary is fantastic.

vanderbilt, (edited )
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

I worked as a DOD contractor for several years. The downfall of Boeing is a case study in toxic leadership. Boeing was once known as the juggernaut in the industry, capable of engineering amazing feats that only someone as large as them could pull off. Over the past decade, that reputation has become inverted. They are of the butt of many jokes. Their merger with Douglas brought out the worst in Douglas and drove out the best in Boeing. I worked for a competing firm, but in many situations we have to cooperate with competing firms in order to deliver on contracts. When I say that interactions with Boeing have left me bewildered, I am speaking conservatively. Management has become overrun with penny pinchers and career MBAs. Engineers are no longer leading the company, and it shows. The quality of components coming out of Boeing these days is frankly terrifying. I book flights with Delta and unfortunately, they have opted to contract for several Boeing MAX airliners. I will cancel my flight if my itinerary shows that I will be flying on such an aircraft. The odds of an incident are incredibly slim, but having worked in aerospace, I will not take the risk. Vote with your wallet and do the same.

JCPhoenix,
@JCPhoenix@beehaw.org avatar

I mentioned on another discussion board that I may have to start factoring in the plane manufacturer as I choose flights. Which is insane in this day and age. Unfortunately, Southwest is the carrier with the most flights and direct routes at my home airport, and Southwest only flies Boeing 737s. Plus, SWA is trying to replace their older 737s with 737 MAX models.

I’ve started flying Delta some last year, but like you said, Delta has both Boeing and Airbus in their fleet. But even if I did only choose Airbus flights with Delta, it’s not like they (and all other carriers) don’t sometimes change planes at the last minute, as needs dictate. Rarely, if ever, would I have the luxury to be like “Nope, nevermind, I’m not getting on that plane,” if that were to happen.

I know air travel is super, super, super safe compared to all other forms of transportation. You’re right that the odds of an incident are incredibly slim, given there are several tens of thousands of commercial passenger flights across the world each day that move millions of people. But boy does it feel like Boeing is aiming to change that, just so they can get some more pennies and dollars here and there. Shameful.

scytale, (edited ) in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

A spokeswoman for Intuit, Tania Mercado, criticized the direct file project as a “half-baked solution” and a waste of taxpayer money. “The direct file scheme is a solution in search of a problem,”

That’s rich coming from a company that created a problem so they can sell their solution.

Either way, there are better software than Intuit, like FreeTaxUSA.

furrowsofar,

I liked that quote. Intuit being the biggest waste of money claiming direct filing is a waste of money. Like you said, FreeTaxUSA is at least reasonable.

Hard to argue that having a dozen companies developing IT software and systems to file taxes is more efficient them the organization that specifies the filing requirements do it once. The current system is more like a welfare program for the tax companies.

KickMeElmo, in I.R.S. to Begin Trial of Its Own Free Tax-Filing System

Good. Fuck Intuit.

frog, in Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after section blows out mid-air

I know, logically speaking, that air travel is statistically very safe. But it’s news like this that makes me anxious about flying later in the year (for the first time in 15 years!), especially as the last leg of my outward journey is on a 737 Max.

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

If it’s any consolation, the odds of your flight ending in an air incident, or even a hull loss is incredibly slim. You have greater odds of being attacked by a polar bear, and a regular bear on the same day. I understand your apprehension, though and it says a lot about the state of Boeing.

frog,

Yeah, it’s one of those things where I understand intellectually that the odds of an incident are incredibly low. I’m sure I read somewhere that air travel is statistically the safest form of travel. But anxiety is definitely not logical!

(Those two bears would have to be very determined to attack me - neither are native here!)

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