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megaman, (edited ) in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

I had this same question since seeing the post about the Fossify phone app. For phone, calendar, contacts, things like those, i dont see what value the official google apps have (other than syncing to your account, but i can manage that myself). For Messages from Google, tho, there is something they provide in the RCS, if only because they block others from implementing.

So, using Fossify Message, for example, sacrifices something of some actual value here…

mogoh, in Enshittification of GitHub?

What are good alternatives to GitHub except selfhosting? I only know gitlab.com. Anything else?

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

Codeberg

toastal,

SSH + an HTTP server can work if you are going barebones

gian,
Slotos,

Sourcehut

atomkarinca,

codeberg

Potatos_are_not_friends,

I would say bitbucket except I don’t recommend bitbucket.

TootSweet, in Enshittification of GitHub?

I moved all my open source projects to Gitlab the day Microsoft announced they were acquiring Github.

(I wish in retrospect I’d taken the time to research and decide on the right host. I likely would have gone to Codeberg instead of Gitlab had I done so. But Gitlab’s still better than Github. And I don’t really know for sure that Codeberg was even around back when Microsoft acquired Github.)

grue,

I’m OOTL. Why is Codeberg better than GitLab?

TootSweet, (edited )

I’m not really sure it is. I just wish I’d shopped around before jumping to Gitlab, really.

It kindof feels like Gitlab’s aims are more commercial and Codeberg’s are more in line with the FOSS movement, but that’s just a vague sense I have based on things I’ve seen but no longer remember specifically.

CalcProgrammer1’s response to my post seems pretty informative and apropos, though.

bizdelnick, (edited )
  1. It is FOSS while GitLab EE is not.
  2. It supports a lot of atifact repository formats while GitLab only docker registry.
  3. It is a non-commercial project.
superbirra,
  1. It supports a lot of atifact repository formats while GitLab only docker registry.

not true docs.gitlab.com/…/supported_package_managers.html

that said, I hate gitlab and their commercial choices, they must die

bizdelnick,

Thank you I missed when they added this. I only track a very old FR for rpm support and was sure that situation is similar with other repos. However gitea/forgejo supports more formats including rpm.

toastal,

Codeberg is ran by a German nonprofit. GitLab is publically-traded on NASDAQ.

gian,

Make the move from Gitlab to Codeberg in the last few days: really simple to do, give it a try ;-)

TootSweet,

Yeah, good thought. The only reason I haven’t is just because I worry that moving constantly might deter people from using any of my FOSS projects. Just seems like it could be considered a red flag (a sign of a “bad” or poorly-managed project) to some. (And… well… given that I didn’t do the research when I moved those projects, it wouldn’t be an entirely inaccurate conclusion to draw.)

Oh, I guess also I’d need to log back into my Github and change everything that says “moved to Gitlab” to say “moved to Codeberg” and update links. (I literally force-pushed to overwrite the entire history of my Github projects with a single commit each with just a README that says it moved to Gitlab with a link.)

Plus, if I really looked into it, I might decide I’d prefer to self-host on something like Gitea.

I guess all that to say I’d definitely want to put more thought into it before migrating any particular place a second time. Doing the actual move is indeed the easy part, but there’s a lot of thought and research to do before that. And a lot of meta-considerations to take into account.

Sounds like you like Codeberg, though. Just out of curiosity, what sold you on Codeberg?

gian,

Sounds like you like Codeberg, though. Just out of curiosity, what sold you on Codeberg?

Basically the fact that they are in Europe and for now they are free (even if I am planning to contribute some euros) and without all the “every site need to be a social network” facade (like Github).
All the features I need are present and I were not using the missing one anyway (like the CI). And I like to support an EU company ;-)

Additionally it is a couple of years that I am trying to move away from US companies for every service I use, the move from Gitlab to Codeberg is the last one and came natural.

linuxPIPEpower,

Codeberg us really new, i think like 2 years. Since covid for sure.

TootSweet,

Ah. Good to know. I don’t feel so bad about going with Gitlab now.

BurnoutDV,

I registered there june 2020 so longer than that

antrosapien, (edited )

My first impression of gitlab was offputting because I was using hardened firefox and couldnt get past through cloudflare so I ended up using github. It was also better ui wise but now its just a mess

Edit: slowly i’m starting to move everything to codeberg

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

I still left my old and unmaintained projects on GitHub but I moved all my active projects to GitLab and any new projects go there too. I have them auto mirrored back to GitHub though as the more mirrors the better. I also recently set up a Codeberg mirror for some of my projects, though GitLab’s CI is what is keeping me on GitLab even though they nerfed the shit out of it and made it basically a requirement to host your own runners even for FOSS projects a year or two back. Still hate them for that and if Codeberg gets a solid CI option, leaving GitLab would make me happy. They too have seen quite a lot of enshittification in the years since Microsoft bought GitHub.

baronvonj,
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nerfed the shit out of it and made it basically a requirement to host your own runners even for FOSS projects a year or two back.

Did they just reduce quotas (minutes?, cache storage?) or did they remove features? I’ve always used self-hosted runner

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Drastically nerfed the quotas. FOSS projects with a valid license used to have GitLab Premium access to shared runners and now even FOSS projects with a valid license get a rather useless 400 minutes. They also require new accounts to add CC info just to use that paltry sum which means FOSS projects can’t rely on CI passing on forks to ensure a merge request passes the checks before merging, as even if you have project specific runners set up forks don’t use them and neither to MRs.

I wish companies didn’t offer what they can’t support from the beginning rather than this embrace, extend, extinguish shit. I guess in GitLab’s case there was no extend, it was just embrace FOSS projects and let them set up CI pipelines and get projects depending on the shared CI runners as part of merge request workflow for a few years and then extinguish by yoinking that access away and fucking over everyone’s workflow, leaving us scrambling to set up project side runners and ruining checks on MRs.

superbirra,

They also require new accounts to add CC

just FYI you can still register w/o a cc but the option is hidden, only reachable via ‘sign in’ and then ‘register’: gitlab.com/users/sign_up

that said they’re shit and need to die

akrot,

The landscape is changing so fast thanks to LLMs, everything is becoming gated behind logins. Thanks ChatGPT.

dinckelman, in Enshittification of GitHub?

I don’t really feel like self-hosting a Git instance is a good idea for me personally, but I’ve been really happy with Gitlab for around 8 years now

GenderNeutralBro, in Enshittification of GitHub?

The only thing surprising is that it took Microsoft almost three years to turn on the shit-spigot.

antrosapien,

You gotta embrace first

Midnitte, (edited ) in Enshittification of GitHub?

They also added some crappy requirements to their student benefit package. student benefit package

Are you trying to get people to use it, or trying to get people to accidentally keep paying a subscription?

FriendBesto, (edited ) in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

It really comes down to what is your use case. Also, a bit of a mindset change since you have to do a bit more research on some apps yourself, nothing too bad, like checking on the App’s Github if they have one, to see issues or bugs. Some of which may apply to you… or not. F-Droid has a link for most apps on their app.

Personally, I removed almost all apps on my phone that have ads and/or improved privacy in one way or another.

I used to use Nova but I found KISS launcher or it’s fork TinyBit Launcher much better. Why? Because I do a lot of searches and liked that it is search focused and you can add all types of different searches once you know the proper syntax. From Wikipedia, to Youtube, to Searxng, to Dictionaries or DuckDuckGo, you can add almost all search engines. The app is really, really light on resources and it does what I want it to do.

I dropped all Google products, rooted my phone and removed them off my phone along with Google Play Services. Avoid all apps with any trackers. Albeit I still have a couple that I still need. But it is a great improvement.

Use K9 for mail, OpenVPN in lieu of my VPN provider’s app, BraveNewPipe or NewPipe w/Sponsor block for Youtube and other services. Use Mull instead of Firefox, due to being more privacy focused. Eternity for Lemmy, as a, well, Lemmy client.

KDEconnect to send/ping/transfer/control PC’s and phones over local Wifi. It’s free. Now, I know that many people may not use it, but I set up a Nextcloud Instance on my server and thus have Notes, Maps, RSS reader, File and Bookmarks Sync all through that by using their free apps. All available for free from F-Droid. But you do need a server.

Also, Termux as terminal. You can do lots with it due to all the apps and services you can install and run. I used to run a Searx instance from my phone and I used that to search along with my VPN.

For weather I use either QuickWeather or Geometric Weather, with icons you can get for free from the Playstore.

inspxtr, (edited ) in Enshittification of GitHub?

Hold up, are you sure you can’t view Discussions or Wiki? Which sites can you not view them?

I’m fine viewing them for public repos that I usually visit.

Asking to make sure that Github is not slowly rolling out this lockdown.

antrosapien,

Most probably. I was viewing discussions about podman, I could view them if directily opened from a link but it required login when navigated to linked pages and wiki

nrbray, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

Syncthing FairMail FreeOTP+ Markor Voyager APK Explorer Kiss launcher Nekogram X Bitwarden

pastermil, in Enshittification of GitHub?

They also broke some stuff with some javascript, I think. I’m using KDE’s web browser (Falkon) and it used to work well.

stefenauris, in Ventoy 1.0.97 Released
@stefenauris@pawb.social avatar

amazingly useful utility!

nezbyte,

It really is. I have every possible ISO I may want and even a win10 bootable environment on a single usb drive.

cmgvd3lw, in Fossify Phone (Fossify is a fork of Simple Mobile Tools) is now available, adding to Fossify's existing Gallery, File Manager, and Calendar apps

But when a call arrives you have to unlock the phone to take it. Thats not good

stembolts,

Tbh I like that. That way no one but me can answer calls on my phone.

Omega_Haxors, in Enshittification of GitHub?

The writing was on the wall when they established a generative AI using everyone’s code and of course without asking anyone for permission.

xilliah,

It’s an interesting debate isn’t it? Does AI transform something free into something that’s not? Or does it simply study the code?

JackbyDev,

No, it’s exhausting.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

There’s no debate. LLMs are plagiarism with extra steps. They take data (usually illegally) wholesale and then launder it.

A lot of people have been doing research into the ethics of these systems and that’s more or less what they found. The reason why they’re black boxes is precisely the reason we all suspected; they were made that way because if they weren’t we’d all see them for what they are.

AnonStoleMyPants,

The reason they’re black boxes is because that’s how LLMs work. Nothing new here, neural networks have been basically black boxes for a long time.

xilliah,

Can you link it please? I’d like to inform myself.

count_duckula, (edited )
@count_duckula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The reason they are blackboxes is because they are function approximators with billions of parameters. Theory has not caught up with practical results. This is why you tune hyperparameters (learning rate, number of layers, number of neurons ina layer, etc.) and have multiple iterations of training to get an approximation of the distribution of the inputs. Training is also sensitive to the order of inputs to the network. A network trained on the same training set but in a different order might converge to an entirely different function. This is why you train on the same inputs in random order over multiple episodes to hopefully average out such variations. They are blackboxes simply because you can’t yet prove theoretically the function it has approximated or converged to given the input.

abbenm, in Do U know about any AI Web Search Engine?

I don’t know how privacy respecting it is but one well done AI search engine is:

search.marginalia.nu

d3Xt3r, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

have installed F-Droid

You should check out Droid-ify! It’s a much more friendlier alternative to F-Droid, and also has more applications by default (gets some apps directly from Github).

Some of my favorite apps:

  • mpv (Lightweight media player, better than VLC)
  • NewPipe (ad-free YouTube / Peertube client)
  • Open Camera (Camera app)
  • SD Maid SE (Junk file/cache cleaner)
  • Unexpected Keyboard
  • WiFiAnalyzer (WiFi scanner, troubleshooter)
fine_sandy_bottom,

I much prefer obtainium

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