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GrappleHat, (edited ) in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
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These are my main core apps. Not fully divested from closed ecosystems (YouTube & Google Maps are in there with alternative private frontends). But close enough for me.

  • Mull - Private Firefox
  • OrganicMaps & GMaps WV - Maps
  • Eternity - Lemmy
  • Meglodon - Mastadon
  • ProtonVPN - VPN
  • AntennaPod - Podcasts
  • Bitwarden - Passwords
  • Joplin - Notes
  • NewPipe Sponsorblock - YouTube w/o ads or in-video promotions
  • VLC - Music & video
  • Yet Another Call Blocker - Spam calls
  • Geometric Weather - Weather
xlash123,
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Development for NewPipe Sponsorblock has ended. They recommend using Tubular instead.

JoyfulCodingGuy,
@JoyfulCodingGuy@lemmy.ml avatar

Thank you! I had no idea development had stopped but I see that now in their GitHub repository.

KpntAutismus, (edited ) in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

i use:

  • aves (gallery app)
  • organic maps
  • jellyfin
  • openboard
  • symphony (music player)
  • syncthing
  • nclientV2 (te best way to read 6-digit codes)
  • fair email (easily the best e-mail app i’ve ever used)

also youtube revanced (not entirely open source or available on f-droid, but the best way to watch youtube without ads for my use case)

SnokenKeekaGuard,
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Yeah i’ve tried libretube and newpipe, also newpipe sponsorblock but returned to revanced

JoyfulCodingGuy, (edited )
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My problem with Symphony and other music apps like Auxio is that they don’t work with audiobooks and file types like m4b. Simple Music Player worked for me when playing all my audio files but now I am waiting for the Fossify version to be published.

mke, (edited ) in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

What apps you install depends on your needs and preferences. It might help others if you include those in any future requests for suggestions.

I suggest not worrying too much about “removing your dependence on closed ecosystems” immediately. Just do as you did before, changing apps as you find better alternatives—only, this time, considering the advantages of FOSS. Simply by giving F-droid apps a chance before opening (I assume) the Play Store, you’re already doing better than the vast majority of people.

Regarding discoverability and security, I believe participation in the community helps:

  • The Venn diagram of “FOSS app users” and “software enthusiasts” is closer to a circle. People like talking about useful, good software they like. Word of mouth recommendations is how I got into this stuff.
  • You’ll be more likely to hear urgent actionable news (e.g. X app developer sold to bad company, here’s the fork that will carry the torch onwards).

And so that this comment isn’t completely useless… Mozilla are currently working on a mobile version of Thunderbird for Android, built on top of K9 mail. Been using the beta and liking it so far. If you want a FOSS e-mail app, keep an eye on that one.

P.S. I much prefer the dark side, and don’t forget the cookies!

halm,
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Mozilla are currently working on a mobile version of Thunderbird for Android, built on top of K9 mail.

Is that what it is, or is K-9 becoming Thunderbird for Android? My understanding from official announcements was the latter.

mke,

My bad, I forgot you need to be careful using such metaphors when talking about software. It’s as the other commenter said: a rebrand, but they might keep the old identity around for people who like it.

halm,
@halm@leminal.space avatar

No worries, I was genuinely uncertain what the current status is. Appreciate the answers!

Adda,
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K-9 is rebranding as Thunderbird for Android, indeed. But since many users of K-9 expressed their desire to keep the logo and name of K-9, Thunderbird agreed to publish both versions: one rebranded as Thunderbird for Android, and the other keeping its original branding as K-9. We will see whether that will complicate things for Thunderbird team too much yet.

halm,
@halm@leminal.space avatar

I see! I missed that nuance since the announcement that K-9 would become TB Android. Thanks for the update.

I’m partial to the old K-9 logo too, but I love that the two email projects I use are working together for interoperability 🙂

Adda, (edited )
@Adda@lemmy.ml avatar

The Venn diagram of “FOSS app users” and “software enthusiasts” is closer to a circle.

Now this is the quote of the week for me 😂 It is mostly accurate, unfortunately, but I cannot stop giggling about it.

Adda, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
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Beside concrete suggestions, I would suggest having a look at the applications you use. (Decide whether you actually use and need them first.) Search for the application on AlternativeTo or similar sites and look for a FLOSS alternative there. And also search the internet for general FLOSS replacements for the use-cases of the applications you use. No need to rush anything. Even replacing one application a week is good progress.

merde, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

now install Droid-ify from Fdroid and you can uninstall Fdroid 😁

once you’re on Droid-ify enable repos from Izzy, divestOs, newpipe, cromite, &c

ruplicant,
@ruplicant@sh.itjust.works avatar

isn’t Izzy’s full of closed source stuff?

sag,

Nope, They only add apps for which source code is available and don’t have any trackers

merde,

is it?

any sources?

Chewy7324,

Droidify auto updates were hit and miss for me, compared to flawless F-Droid Basic unattended background updates.

halm,
@halm@leminal.space avatar

Yeah, you can enable those repos in plain f-droid, too.

What is the draw of droidify other than (I think) using material design?

lemmyvore, (edited )

You mean Foxy Droid.

Gooey0210,

They meant neo store

library_napper, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Remove gapps

Tangent5280,

Yeah, that’s the endgame. I hope to replace everything I use eventually.

kratoz29, (edited )
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There are no in between library_napper probably.

Sensitivezombie, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

Begin to de-google yourself. Research on FOSS alternatives to Google apps and services. Depending on your reliance, this may be a slow process. It’s OK. Build an understanding that there will be lots of sacrificing, especially convenience around the brand ecosystem that Google and Apple are known for.

Tangent5280,

It’s a bit unnerving, to understand how massive an influence that one company has on our lives.

library_napper, in Do U know about any AI Web Search Engine?
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Aren’t AI systems fed stale data by design?

floofloof, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

Alright boys

Do we still do that reddit thing here where we assume everyone is male?

sag,

I think girls don’t really care or they do? Because I use ‘bro’ talking or texting to a girl.

merde,

for the downVoters

why defend defaultism or sexism? It may sound harmless to you, you may be used to it, but “alright boys” is exclusive and not, like some need to claim, a default greeting.

older women don’t care, they’re used to men being dickheads, but not being recognized hurts girls

alright girls, (that by default means you boys🤯) you can downVote this comment to hell now

Gooey0210,

Since when “boys” means only males 🫤

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

Since English became a language and started using the word boys

merde, (edited )

if boy already meant what it still does in proto-Germanic, the response would be: since at least 2500 years ago

but you’re write, watt r words butt gubblede gook. your all ways rite

Duamerthrax,
  1. That’s not a reddit thing.
  2. Just except that many idioms and job descriptions that use to be gendered will become gender neutral.
Tangent5280,

No assumption of gender, I was just going for the “Fuck it, we ball” rhetoric. I’m sorry if I made you feel excluded.

uuhhhhmmmm,

Your comment is a Twitter thing

RovingFox, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
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Wait until you find out about Obtainium.

Unmapped,

I’m loving obtainium. I just found it about 2 weeks ago and, I’ve been slowly switching everything I had installed with f droid over to obtainium. Only problem so far was one didn’t have apk releases. Only a .zip. There is already a issue on github about it and I expect obtainium will be able to handle that in the near future. It has be getting updated a lot lately. Plus version 1.0.0 just released.

RovingFox,
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

Yeah, I did the same when I found it. For some apps I still left the fdroid version, but they update with obtainium.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Well…?

Tangent5280,

Im thinking its another app storefront, similar to f droid?

alkheemist,

Obtainium lets you install FOSS programs directly from the developers source. You can get updates from the github/gitlab of app developers before they get uploaded to F-droid.

crashoverride,

How do I use it? I downloaded it but I don’t see the apps on it

alkheemist,

You have to add them manually, either by url or with the built in search. For example, you can add newpipe by searching sources and checking github as a source to search. It will then show you repos that match newpipe, which usually is the regular newpipe repo and then a bunch of forks of it.

Obtainium isn’t for finding FOSS apps, it’s for installing them. To find them, you can check out existing repos such as f-droid or izzy, or you can ask around. This post has a bunch of recommendations in the replies

mulcahey, in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

I’ve been using Beeper. It’s open source and built on Matrix bridges, also open source. For RCS you have to link it to your Google Messages

ganoo,
@ganoo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Google Messages

He wanted FOSS software. Bridging it to Matrix doesn’t make it FOSS imo.

lemmyreader,

OP wrote “OS or FOSS”. What is the license for Matrix, btw ?

Atemu,
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Synapse is AGPL-3.0.

denshirenji, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
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What I have installed:

From Obtanium:

  • Most Fossify Apps
  • Nextcloud
  • Material Files
  • Immich
  • DAVx & ICSx (nextcloud contacts and calendar sync)
  • DNS66
  • Jellyfin
  • Spotube

From FDroid (really droidify from various repositories)

  • FUTO Voice Input
  • Breezy Weather
  • K-9
  • Libera Reader
  • FFUpdater
  • Joplin

The list is massive and I’m on mobile and hate tiny keyboards. I can finish the list later if you/y’all are interested. The only thing that I actively use that is not FOSS on my phone is Google Messages, which I guess is a bit hypocritical, but its too good. Just the ability to react to messages makes it worth it for me.

I also highly recommend Grayjay. It is the best (IMHO) YouTube replacement. It is cross service, like I have odysee, nebula, youtube, and various peertube instances added as sources.

As far as what apps to watch out for, someone mentioned Simple Mobile Tools. Otherwise, I would stay away from apps that are not being updated anymore or are otherwise way too old.

Tangent5280,

How well would you say Libera Reader works? Do you have experience using it?

denshirenji,
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

It works perfectly well. I find the ui bit clunky personally, but functionally it works very well. I don’t have much time to read anymore though, so I rarely use it to be honest.

Adda,
@Adda@lemmy.ml avatar

Librera Reader is the best reader I have had the honour to try. I have been using Librera Reader for several years now, and I think it is safe to say I love the app. It is actively maintained, and new features are added continuously. There are plenty of settings to allow you to modify the user experience exactly to your liking. If you are considering reading any e-books or PDFs on your Android devices, give Librera Reader a try. It is a fantastic app.

Tangent5280,

I read a lot, and currently I read with calibre on my pc since I can highlight and export them directly so I can include them in my notes. I’d like it if I could run the calibre server and be able to higlight on my phone, and sync it over to my pc automatically.

Lemongrab, (edited )
@Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

I have some things to add.

Most of the released fossify apps are on fdroid.

From f-droid I recommended:

Binary eye (QR and bar codes)

Fennec or Mull (Firefox without telemetry, Mull for privacy/security)

K-9 mail (email client, Thunderbird mobile)

Aurora store (google appstore without need for play services)

Innertune (better YT music)

OpenNoteScanner (scan paper docs to digitize)

Droidify (fdroid but more feature rich and user friendly)

Tangent5280,

How does OpenNoteScanner compare to the Microsoft Lens app?

Lemongrab,
@Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

Much less features. Does the job with simple orientation correction and post process filters for clearer text. Serviceable but incomparably.

mea_rah,

I feel so sorry for recommending a closed source app in this community, but Genius Scan from Grizzly Labs is the only non-oss app I still use. I think I paid around €30 for the enterprise version so it doesn’t bother me with cloud nonsense.

It’s all local only (if you want) and the scanning quality is the best I’ve found. (I used OpenNoteScanner for a few months, sadly it’s not even close both in terms of quality and convenience)

I figured I’ll mention it as an alternative to MS Lens app that likely sucks in every bit of information it can get its hands on.

denshirenji,
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for recommending Innertune. Checking it out now.

davidgro, in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

Not yet possible. Google hasn’t provided an API to access RCS from 3rd party apps. They did to Samsung’s messenger (1st party as far as their own phones), but as far as I know that is the only other one currently. (Verizon for a while had their own RCS implementation and infrastructure and their own messenger app could access it)

Sensitivezombie,

Well, that’s too bad about RCS.

vext01, in Enshittification of GitHub?
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It could be much worse.

TootSweet,
toastal,

Be it will?

scrubbles, in Enshittification of GitHub?
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Honestly for selfhosters, I can’t recommend enough setting up an instance of Gitea. You’ll be very happy hosting your code and such there, then just replicate it to github or something if you want it on the big platforms.

sub_ubi,

Does it have any features that github doesn’t?

Disregard3145,

Its pretty good, for most people there isn’t anything missing

Actions can’t be triggered by workflow dispatch

Pull requests can’t wait for status checks

SaladevX,

+1 for Gitea. It’s super lightweight, and works really well! I recently switched to Gitlab simply because I wanted experience with hosting it, but Gitea is much lighter and easier to use.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Forgejo please. Gitea was acquired by a for-profit company

renard_roux,

Maybe have a look at this comment elsewhere in the thread.

d3Xt3r,

Just so you’re aware, Gitea was taken over by a for-profit company. Which is why it was forked and Forgejo was formed. If you don’t use Github as a matter of principle, then you should switch to Forgejo instead.

JoeKrogan,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info

aniki,

did they get federation working?

d3Xt3r,

Nothing usable yet unfortunately, but they seem to be making good progress: codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59

aniki,

Thanks for the link! As long as it’s being worked on I feel comfortable spinning up an instance. I’ve been meaning to do gitea for a while so I’m glad I waited.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Damnit of course it was. Thanks for letting me know, now I’ll have to redo my 100+ repos.

moreeni,

Changing the remote should be fairly trivial with enough bash skills

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

It’s more I don’t have them all checked out, and a good chunk are mirrors of github, so I’ll have to list out each one and push to a new remote, mirrors will have to be setup again, and I also use the container and package registries. I’m pretty embedded. It’s not impossible, but it’s a weekend project for sure.

NightAuthor,

If there’s a fork, it’ll probably be an easy migration/in-place upgrade.

lambchop,

My understanding is the fork isn’t doing much but waiting to see if gitea turns to shit, pushing all their changes upstream. If you use docker I’ve heard you can just pull the new image and it simply drops in, no migration needed.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Oh man, thanks for this. I had no idea, having used gitea for years now.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Forgejo for you chap.

Honestly I’m kind of surprised that Gitea is still being recommended on Lemmy, it’s been a while since Gitea was acquired and the community has been raging since. Lemmy is regressing

superbirra,

Lemmy is regressing

it is not lol, you are just realising that you are not part of any elite for the simple reason of using it

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