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EmhyrVarEmreis, in I am considering installing TikTok. Any suggestion on how to make it less privacy-invasive?

Use a private DNS and patch the app with revanced. Don’t use your primary email or phone and never give it permission to access your contacts.

That’s only if you really want to install it.

4am, in I am considering installing TikTok. Any suggestion on how to make it less privacy-invasive?

Blocked at the firewall at my place.

Just don’t. If you want TikTok content then look for YouTube compilations or reposts (do shorts work on Piped?)

TikTok is one of the most privacy-invasive apps ever created, and that’s before even considering the data they get from watching what videos you watch/like. They harvest literally everything they can from your phone.

I guess if you run it in a VM on an Android emulator with a VPN and strict vlan/firewall rules using an email address you created specifically for it, but even then it doesn’t seem worth it.

QuazarOmega, in Standard Notes is changing its license

In terms of privacy, nothing would change, it’s still the same as ever so I think the recommendation can absolutely stay up, even proprietary apps are suggested on Privacy Guides.
In terms of software freedom, this is a terrible change and I really dislike projects moving to source-available models, in this case, as the other commenters said there, I don’t even think it’s legal, unless every contributor has signed a CLA in the past.
I feel for not wanting to be explioted by corporate, but they could have gone the dual licensing path and instead chose to restrict everyone’s freedom, even us users. Now that doesn’t mean forks can’t be made I believe, it’s just that anyone who does that, won’t ever be able to sell the service which could be unsustainable since they made the server CC-BY-NC-SA, that’s a big turn off for those who want to host that

AllNewTypeFace, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?
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Telegram is, by all accounts, a privacy garbage fire. They rolled their own crypto, bless them, and as they say, anyone can design a cryptosystem that they themselves can’t break.

Fizz, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?
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I’ve never heard anyone suggest telegram as a private service.

lemmy_nightmare, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?
@lemmy_nightmare@sh.itjust.works avatar

Telegram is not even an option.

dingus, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

If you trust Telegram you’re naive. Here is a great breakdown earlier this year from Kaspersky.

usa.kaspersky.com/blog/…/27662/

Signal isn’t perfect either, but their mistakes are far less egregious. They also have removed some of the more egregious mistakes, like needing a phone number (edit: incorrect, see below) or google play services to function. It can be run on a device without Google Play Services because it only uses Google Play Services for push notifications.

quaff,
@quaff@lemmy.ca avatar

Thanks for the article. That’s a really good breakdown for most arguments of Telegram propagandists. 🙌

Infiltrated_ad8271,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Are you both bots? How can anyone read that crap and say it's a great breakdown?
It's a single widely known issue, and it can literally be summed up in one short sentence: by default it doesn't use end-to-end encrypted chats, which are also far inferior in functionality.

I've never seen a pro-telegram propagandist, but you anti-telegram propagandists are swarming and very tiresome.

bastion,

lol.

  • post asks which app is preferred
  • a clear winner with lots of reasons why emerges
  • "propagandists!"

I dislike Signal because of the abandonment of SMS as an option. Without that, it’s on par with (not really ahead of) most other secure messengers. Session is pretty decent, and I am curious if SimpleX will take off.

Anyways. Not a Session fanboy by any means, but I cam still see that (given the two options asked about) session is the clear winner. But your take on this all is hilarious.

quaff,
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We are in a privacy community. A privacy community with a specific website that makes recommendations on messenger apps. And yet, OP is asking for an opinion on comparisons between Signal (recommended by the guide) and Telegram (which isn’t even in the guide). Why would this be necessary if they weren’t thinking Telegram could be a private and secure messenger too? Even tho it’s not recommended on privacy guides. Draw whatever conclusions you want to fit your own world view. But just because others do so differently, doesn’t mean they’re bots. That’s a very lazy way to view the world. And that is also just my opinion. If you wanted to discuss the points of the article, I’m down. But if you’re coming in here to be reductive because you have a differing opinion, then this is all I’m going to be saying to you.

quellik, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?

I use both but for different purposes: Signal for group chats and Telegram for channels (news and piracy).

I trust Signal more.

witchdoctor, in Which one do you trust the most for your privacy?

Signal obviously

otter,
Wander, in Security researcher warns of chilling effect after feds search phone at airport | TechCrunch
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I’m planning on bringing a spare phone only on my trips to the US.

CookieJarObserver, in Security researcher warns of chilling effect after feds search phone at airport | TechCrunch
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Yeah plug my phone in and see what happens… There is totally no virus on it…

Uniquitous, in How to use GroupMe in a private manner?

GroupMe is still around? Fuckin hell.

MagneticFusion,

Yea and for SOME FUCKING REASON it is the default messaging app for many university related events and whatnot. Shit I would rather use WhatsApp over this shit at least it is end to end encrypted and has a better UI

furzegulo, in Chromium vs Brave

firefox/librewolf

qwert230839265026494,

firefox/librewolf

“Just use Firefox/Librewolf or any other privacy-conscious browser that isn’t Chromium-based.” I already do, but some websites/platforms don’t play nice on non-Chromium-based browsers due to Google’s monopoly on the web. Sometimes I can afford to not use that website/platform, but unfortunately not always.

😅. Thanks anyways 👍.

nutbutter,

I have only seen people saying this, but have never come across such a website that does not work properly on Firefox.

I have only seen the issue that Jitsi does not support e2ee on Firefox.

qwert230839265026494,

Just a few days ago I tried to pay for flight tickets on flypgs.com. Multiple attempts on Firefox didn’t work, while the first attempt on a Chromium-based one did. It might have been a fluke, but every so often issues like these do happen. And for some reason switching the browser does bear a positive result. YMMV though.

aaaaaaadjsf, in How do yall go about meeting new people while still maintaining a decent level of privacy?
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You’re going to have to use what people around you use. Weather it’s Whatsapp, Instagram groups, whatever. That is part of life. I’m forced to use WhatsApp because it’s what everyone in my country uses. The alternative is having no contact with anybody.

Is this the most privacy friendly approach? No, of course not. But we all have to make compromises to live in the modern world, and this is one of them.

prenatal_confusion, in Imagine making shadowy data brokers erase your personal info. Californians may soon live the dream

Imagine living in the EU. GDPR is fun, but there are ways around it for companies.

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