What do you use for cloud storage and why?

I’ve been wanting to move away from Dropbox for a long while, but I haven’t been able to find a suitable replacement. Dropbox has always been super convenient and has just worked for me.

I’ve tried Tresoit but the low link sharing limits (2gb) and 10gb limit for files is somewhat of a deal breaker for me. I’ve been interested in Proton Drive for a while, but until their mac app is ready it’s unusable for me.

I’ve also tried self-hosting a nextcloud instance (multiple times) but I’ve always just had too many issues with it. It’s been inconsistent in actually backing up files from my mac, I’ve had so many file conflicts, etc. I have a truenas scale server, so if there are other self-hosted methods I should try let me know.

Currently, I’m looking at filen and sync.com, but I’ve heard both have their issues so I’m curious to hear everyones thoughts on them as well.

Thanks!

scottmeme,

I run it myself in a datacenter. I do basically anything and everything I want off my own hardware.

hayhay,

I’m assuming this would cost a fair bit then? Also, what do you use to sync the files from your devices to the servers?

scottmeme,

Yeah, but I own all the hardware so that’s a upside.

Truenas scale has easy rsync configurations so I do that.

ninjan,

Replicated between two sites I hope? Not much of a backup if it’s in one location.

scottmeme,

I have 2 Nas builds perfectly in sync at my house. My DC hosted Nas is only media.

Landmammals,

Azure

hayhay,

Sorry, but could you elaborate? Is there a specific way or thing you do to sync to azure?

Landmammals,

Desktop and Synology back up to azure, and I have a drive letter mapped to an azure blob.

ninjan,

I run Dropbox, since they’re only in cloud storage they can’t really run around and sell data, if found out there would be no reason to stay for their customers. Unlike say Google and Microsoft.

zoontechnicon,

You run dropbox? Impressive.

ANIMATEK,

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  • TrenchcoatFullofBats,

    Nope.

    hruzgar,

    I wouldn’t trust a billion dollar company to not sell my datam Just sayin

    railsdev,

    Storj, specifically using RClone and the native Uplink CLI (vs the S3 gateway). Super cheap, P2P, built-in client-side encryption are what keep me on it (and steering clear of the nightmare that is AWS).

    Vexz,

    I use a Synology NAS which I can access from everywhere as long as I have internet connection.

    LUHG_HANI,
    @LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeh this is probably the quickest, simplistic and most robust way. Not the cheapest but unless you have unraid ready and know exactly what to do you’d be hard pushed to find a better solution.

    I use unraid, nextcloud, Immich, Tailscale and so on . It’s not set and forget.

    mark3748,

    Self hosted Nextcloud. Immich for photos.

    wreckedcarzz,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    ⚠️ Do not use the app as the only way to store your photos and videos.

    immediately followed by

    ⚠️ Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos!

    now I don’t think I’m overly bright, but that doesn’t seem like advice to ignore

    mark3748,

    Weirdly enough, I didn’t say it was my only way to store anything, nor that the program stores photos at all.

    It syncs the photos from my devices, the storage for those photos is on a separate server (as is the NextCloud storage) that is encrypted and backed up to Backblaze B2.

    Immich is a gallery and organization app that syncs from your devices, the underlying storage is whatever you provide.

    wreckedcarzz,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Weirdly enough, you didn’t say but drew the readers to that conclusion, hence my point for others.

    hayhay,

    This actually seems like a very cohesive solution, might try it out!

    netchami,

    Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos!

    This is good advice.

    Oha,

    Nextcloud on my own hardware

    mintycactus,
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  • hayhay,

    On their roadmap I think I saw they were going to bring support for it? But yeah I wouldn’t trust that until I see it. It’d be annoying to transfer over all of my data from DB to filen if I were to go that route, but at the same time rclone already supports Proton Drive, but the mac app still isn’t here.

    johntash,

    Self hosted nextcloud works great for me. There have been a lot of improvements over the last few years, handling conflicts doesn’t feel as clunky and I don’t really run into as many unless I’m storing git repos in my NC directory.

    hayhay,

    I’m curious, are there any ways to just not backup directories in a .gitignore type of way? I started trying out filen and this single feature is just very very compelling for me

    I haven’t used NC in a while but the improvements seem good at first glance!

    bobbytables,

    Nextcloud with Hetzner your-storageshare. ~5€/m for 1TB is hard to beat and it runs so well. I still use encryption and a few plugins like on a selfhosted instance.

    JackSkellington,

    How do you deal with the encryption? How did you set that up? Or you encrypt on your pc and then send to hetzner?

    bobbytables,

    I only use the encrypted storage built in natively in Nextcloud. https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/configuration_files/encryption_configuration.html but only for local storage.

    The e2ee was not very good the last time I checked. I should check out any new developments though.

    hayhay, (edited )

    I’ve heard a lot of issues (from a few old reddit threads though) in regards to NC Encryption, specifically with data loss and file integrity. I don’t think I’m comfortable going that route, but if they’ve made improvements I might as well check it out

    Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Hetzner EU only? If I’m in the U.S., wouldn’t that make file syncs rather slow?

    bobbytables,

    I think they opened or are planning to open a US data center. Other than that they are in Germany and Norway at the moment.

    I’m in Germany, too, but I synced to it while being in the US, in Spain, and in Indonesia on vacation and I never had any problems with delays. And even if it was slow it was the hotel wifi 100% of the time. But using it full time from across the ocean ymmw.

    hayhay,

    Looks like they did open a US data center, but the storage shares are still Germany & Norway.

    I might still give it a shot, it’s not a large commitment so might be good to try.

    goodhunter,

    This is a great option, I have used it too in the past. Since, I have switched to iCloud when they implemented e2e encryption. Seems no one else here goes that route, trust issues maybe.

    I do miss versioning with iCloud.

    I have proton drive too, waiting on that osx client.

    bobbytables,

    ICloud with e2e could be nice. But having a mix of Linux and Windows laptops in the household it is just not possible. There simply is no Linux client for it. And last time I checked the Windows client didn’t support e2e. So there goes that.

    And to be completely honest I really do have trust issues with Apple (and Big Tech in general).

    Extrasvhx9he,

    Atm a burner dropbox account with cryptomator on top. Going to see how mega works with cryptomator and hopefully that will be my replacement

    Maximilious,
    @Maximilious@kbin.social avatar

    What files from your Mac are you trying to sync to next cloud? If you have a Truenas already, why are you hosting files from your Mac instead of mapping a share directly from your Truenas into Nextcloud and working directly off of the source instead?

    As for syncing photos from my phone to Nextcloud, I've had no issues over the past 3 years hosting it myself. I had one problem with a lot of conflicts where permissions on my truenas wouldn't allow nextcloud to delete them, so I had a manual cleanup process last month but that's the only problem I've had. I just switched to Truenas a few months ago from QNAP and am still learning the caveats of their very granular permissions but everything generally works about 99% of the time.

    hayhay,

    Wouldn’t mapping it directly to truenas be somewhat slow especially if I’m always on the go? My Truenas server is at at home while I dorm on campus, so I’m not sure if it would work out well. Plus, I’ve had a lot of issues with truenas + my hardware which led to me keeping this server mostly down over the last year or so. Everything seems stable and works fairly well now, but just airing on the side of caution.

    Does NC photos have tagging? Auto-tagging is why I’ve always been with Google Photos tbh, an alternative would be nice though.

    That said, my mac is mostly code, some emulation related stuff (thus the 10 gb limit of tresoit being annoying for me), and some documents/notes. My media is already self-hosted on jellyfin which works great atm, but I have it on my dropbox as well right now.

    Fermiverse,

    Syncthing to my selfhosted proxmox server at home then rclone encrypted and unencrypted depending on content, to my cloud storage. Fully automtatic meanwhile.

    Rclone syncs to various cloud services so the provider doesn’t matter from a technical point of view.

    dmtalon,

    Nextcloud docker on unRAID has worked well for me on…

    Android, Windows and my MacBook(s)

    I use it to Auto upload photos from my phone as well as cloud storage. Shared directories with my wife and son for easy sharing.

    No real issues outside a couple painful upgrades in the past .

    calmluck9349,
    @calmluck9349@infosec.pub avatar

    Which docker do you use?

    dmtalon,

    lscr.io/linuxserver

    shalafi,

    I just pay Google $99/yr. for 2TB of storage. I have my Google Drive mapped as G: and Windows libraries mapped to folders in the Google Drive.

    Super simple and cheap. I still have local backups for fast restores, and Google for cloud.

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