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notthebees, in T-testing

That entire paper was wild

IntentionallyAnon,

What paper

notthebees,
where_am_i,

tells us!

notthebees,
sirico, in and they're gonna pay
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Pretty much all of them didn’t also Deinonychus was done dirty Velociraptors were tiny bois

AmIConcious, in heart of ice

“do you think that Pluto gives a shit? Pluto’s not gonna quit, cos Pluto knows what Pluto is. And he knows that Pluto’s HOT SHIT” -Tom Cardy

workerONE, in heart of ice

I thought this said “Heart of rice” and the rest about Pluto got pretty confusing

sudoshakes, in bro pls

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  • uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t remember where I heard that science is super cheap, but I did not belive it first. Some time later I see that it is.

    petersr,

    I guess everything is relative.

    arin,

    Upkeep might be expensive, but 22 billion is probably lower bound estimation, highly likely to 5x that at least

    TigrisMorte,

    So, we'll need to kill fewer brown children to pay for it?

    JustMy2c,

    That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don’t accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway

    TigrisMorte,

    Found a future Federal Reserve banker!

    WhiteHawk,

    This is Switzerland you’re talking about, they make money when people get killed

    JustMy2c, (edited )

    Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion

    ekky43, (edited )

    Man, that’s just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose?

    What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch!

    /s

    CheeseNoodle, (edited )

    Pff the UK is spending that on a 70 mile railway thats going to be slower than the one already there, already spent nearly 2x the projected FCC budget on just 6 miles of the fucking thing.

    frezik,

    Maybe the government should spend less on avocado toast.

    cantstopthesignal,

    The US has given 4 times that to Ukraine. That’s 2/3rds the budget of NASA.

    JohnDClay,

    This initial budget estimate is 44x the 500M initial estimate of the jwst for comparison. Jwst eventually ballooned to 20B, but I’m guessing this would similarly balloon over time as well.

    JohnDClay,

    That’s actually surprising that NASA only has 50% more budget than a single particle accelerator, given the huge number of cutting edge projects NASA is working on.

    Necromnomicon,

    Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA.

    JohnDClay,
    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    This is one-time vs recurring payment

    JohnDClay,

    That’s why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget

    psycho_driver,

    Money spent fighting a morally justifiable war with Russia that we aren’t actually having to fight is money well spent IMO.

    spacedout,
    @spacedout@lemmy.ml avatar

    A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks

    psycho_driver,

    Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country?

    spacedout,
    @spacedout@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ate the propaganda, hook line and sinker didn’t you, mate? More likely would be the Russian occupied east Ukraine becoming Russian, truce agreement written early 2022, very few dead. You saw Zelensky postponing elections the other day, because now was not a good time, right? What were we fighting for again? Oh yes, military industrial profits. Go home, Yankee, bomb your own country.

    vormadikter,

    And your proposed solution is… Which? You have one, do You? Like, one that is not copy-pasta from the russians? One that is not propaganda you had for breakfast yourself?

    spacedout,
    @spacedout@lemmy.ml avatar

    Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May:

    We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it.

    Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow

    WraithGear,
    @WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

    Name a country that changes leaders during a war and i will show you a vassal state. Seems someone has taken more then their fair share of propaganda. But i guess if everyone just surrenders when provoked there would be no dead, ami’right? In that case, Russia best be surrendering already.

    frezik,

    Yeah, giving into bullies is a proven solution.

    daellat, (edited )

    They clearly wanted to overthrow the government and invade Kyiv, not just the east.

    As for very few dead youtu.be/IrGZ66uKcl0?si=lcFQBYIV8BbnTHrO

    daellat,

    They have mostly given stuff they weren’t going to use anymore worth that amount when bought new.

    psmgx,

    How many people has the moon killed? Cuz Russia has killed tens of thousands. They’ve lost on the order of 250k of their own guys, and probably inflicted roughly the same numbers on the AFU.

    The moon doesn’t kill old ladies sitting in their apartment.

    Kecessa,

    Fucking hell, we can’t get a tramway for 10b CAD around here and a 12km tunnel under a river was going to cost half a 100km collider 😐

    EmergMemeHologram,

    The problem is a train needs to transport humans, whereas the collider just needs to transport teeny tiny particles and keep a receipt of their arrival.

    Chobbes,

    The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider.

    EmergMemeHologram,

    I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light

    SrTobi,

    First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?

    driving_crooner,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    Elon Musk could have actually done something for humanity and build two of those instead of buying Twitter.

    Acters,

    Dude literally owns a boring company, he could have ate the cost of digging the tunnel to specifications and still have more money than buying xitter

    HawlSera,

    Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW!

    Necromnomicon,

    Yea but his boring company isn’t particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit… allegedly.

    Fuck_u_spez_,

    Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up.

    driving_crooner,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    I think was a biographer, who wrote that the “hyperloop” project existed only to sabotage California’s high speed train project.

    spectre,

    I mean we all know this, but if he wants his “brand” to be “Mr. Nerd Shit” why tf does he miss such obvious Ws?

    wahming,

    There’s a reason he lost that brand years ago

    ChicoSuave,

    And he’s driven the value down below the price of one collider. He’s lost an entire super collider!

    pufferfischerpulver,

    I disliked the truth of what you wrote so much, I initially downvoted you.

    Steve,

    You may not realize this, but the twitter money still exists. The former owners of twitter have it under their mattress right now, why don’t they build a supercollider?

    fox,

    I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things.

    Epicurus0319, in o(╥﹏╥)o

    What if there was once a sentient civilization tens of millions of years before us, but then it either destroyed itself at some point (leaving behind what are now our uranium deposits) or was wiped out by a flood basalt or something? What if the feared “bad ending” for humanity a la a nuclear war is the only civilization apocalypse that has already happened?

    xusontha, in Cope

    That’s what the interns are for; that and snacks

    Pantoffel,

    And then take all the credit for their findings for yourself ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

    xusontha,

    Of COURSE! They’re paid in “experience” not anything tangible!

    lowleveldata, in Physics.

    Hey! At least the equations have solutions sometimes

    httpjames,
    @httpjames@sh.itjust.works avatar

    0 divided by 0 🥲

    threelonmusketeers,

    Hey, maybe it’s just an indeterminate form. You should try differentiating one more time. This time it should work, right?

    whofearsthenight, in abandonware empires

    I don’t know how we can’t legislate this into existence eventually if nothing else just based on climate change and the amount of working material we just… throw away. Especially as more and more things integrate software, I imagine that it’s going to feel absolutely insane to people in a few decades (after the water wars and the great migrations) that they had technology like the microscope in the post but the company decided no more software updates so now it’s just garbage.

    barrbaric,

    The US (and all of their allies) are in favor of wealth redistribution to the ultra-wealthy, so predatory practices like this will never be stopped unless there is a sufficiently organized and pissed off mass movement calling for it. Researchers are a tiny group, so it won’t happen.

    robot_dog_with_gun,

    how we can’t legislate

    because “we” don’t own our government, the parasites who profit from the thing you want to change have all the power. labor needs to organize, the alternatives are capitalists killing us all or the-doohickey

    xenu, in abandonware empires

    I'm not a programmer or anything, but I've heard decompilers have gotten better over the years.

    4am,

    The problem is that you’d need the quarter-million dollar electron microscope to test your reverse-engineered modern version, and if you get something wrong and you fry it…

    That being said, I wonder why labs don’t just make a VM. Hardware passthru is definitely a thing, parallel port cards exist (as do serial port) and you can back up a VM to whatever modern storage you want. Maybe the problem is proprietary cards/connectors? PCI-X or older?

    SpaceNoodle,

    I had to reverse-engineer a floppy disk encryption scheme that was performed by some DOS software that directly talked to the IDE floppy controller. There’s no emulating that. A USB floppy drive can’t even be operated in the same way.

    It was easier to just crack the (admittedly trivial) encryption.

    notepass,

    You can get PCIe to PCI cards. I think PCIe is pretty much backwards compatible with PCI and only little logic is required. And PCI-X cards do work in PCI slots at reduced bandwidth.

    Tho, if a system works without issue, why touch it? Only if parts become hard or expensive to come by a replacement makes sense.

    wjrii,
    @wjrii@kbin.social avatar

    I'm sure some do, but there's also a certain simplicity to "back up the Win95 machine" and "collect working Pentium 2's from eBay," particularly for fields that are not interested in IT for its own sake. A virtual machine adds an extra layer of abstraction and complexity, though I'm sure there's a slow trickle as entities have trouble replacing hardware or luck into technically savvy and ambitious staff. I've certainly seen my share of data being entered into a Windows 10 app that sure as shit seems to be a terminal emulator running some green-text dinosaur, or else it's got a set of Visual Basic widgets that seem like they'd be compatible with one.

    AnonStoleMyPants,

    The rant in the post has some merit to it, but the thing it sort of misses is also the reason not to use VM. It works just fine. It hasn’t been updated in 20 years because it still works. It does what it says on the box. Why put it in a VM? What would you gain from it? If you need Internet just grab a laptop and have it sit next to the main computer. That way users have a much smaller chance to break something vital. Pretty much all the control computers are air gapped anyway. No updates or anything to break things you reeeeally don’t want to break.

    The only case I’ve seen VMs being used is if the old computer breakes and you can’t really find something that’s compatible with old-as-fuck software om bare metal. I work in a cleanroom and we got sooo many systems that are windows 95 or older (DOS anyone?). Electron microscope, etching systems, probe stations

    Honytawk,

    The merit is security, as you can manage what goes into the VM as oppose to having the hardware where people can just plugin a flash drive or network cable.

    Then there is also the improvement to not needing to maintain the old hardware, and having a backup of the entire system that you can just copy to a different system and have everything running again.

    AnonStoleMyPants,

    Sure I can see it being a security feature, random USBs are not a good thing, but I feel like it is quite minor with an air gapped system, no?

    The backup is a good point. Though from this I started wondering how difficult it is to get the VM to communicate with old hardware. Like, the hardware might use some random method of actually communicating with the computer, ans getting that through to the VM might be problematic? I have no clue, just spitballing here.

    Bandiospore, in 𓍊𓋼😿𓋼𓍊
    retrolasered, in What more can I say?
    @retrolasered@lemmy.zip avatar
    I_Has_A_Hat, in and they're gonna pay

    Those bastards lied to me

    Yes, that is the plot to Jurassic Park.

    xenspidey, in heart of ice

    Heart? No, it actually looks like Disney’s Pluto…

    the_lone_wolf, in bro pls
    @the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

    I am waiting for the day when the biggest collider first run is going to explode this planet and then earth is going to become itself a particle.

    Chadus_Maximus,

    Why does future circular collider, the largest collider, not eat all the other colliders?

    Foofighter,

    If I remember the smaller colliders are used to feed the LHC. Probably the same with a future collide.

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