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MNByChoice, in 🌿👀🌿

Thank you for the links!

A bit horrifying that actual research points to plant vision.

Narrrz,

the likelihood of triffids grows every higher

NegativeLookBehind, in 🌿👀🌿
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So if you have plants in your bathroom, they’re watching you poop. Neat!

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
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That kind of explains why I can’t keep plants alive… I’m traumatizing them so bad they want death.

blackbrook,

But wouldn’t they be, like, “yum, fertilizer!”?

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
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Probably not with my diet.

blackbrook,

Plants: “Eat more phosphorus and potassium!”

Narrrz,

plants are farming us all for food. playing the long game.

Eufalconimorph,

Not if they have to see that guy with his pants off!

lol3droflxp,
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For 90% of people it’s watering issues. Mostly overwatering.

fossilesque,
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5 words: Beer bottle drip feeder attachments.

lol3droflxp,
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Drip feeders can in fact be excellent. Unless you’re already the kind of person who will forget about those as well.

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
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Ya, usually I either overwater or forget about it entirely for extended periods of time.

That’s why I have mainly plastic plants now. Much less fussy.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

They smell the food, they can see the food being made, but by the cruel hand of fate, they just can’t get the food.

TropicalDingdong, in 🌿👀🌿

In a sense, all the light harvesting parts of a plant are collecting information about its environment.

fossilesque,
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Do you often feel like there are thousands of eyes watching you? Taps pen.

TropicalDingdong,
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Pyr_Pressure,

I do wonder the resolution that it could detect.

Can a leaf detect the difference in blue light coming from above and green light surrounding it? Can it detect the green and brown light surrounding it? The red light reflecting off a bird sitting above it?

If it’s sensitive enough to the different wavelengths a leaf wouldn’t really be all that much different from an eye.

TropicalDingdong,

I mean… yes?

Like that is kind of all a leaf is ‘really’ doing.

I dropped this mostly as a joke, but here is photosythesis:

lemmy.world/…/47117e3d-82e0-4325-816f-ed2c854d18b…

All plant pigments are photoreactive in ‘some’ manner:

https://bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_and_General_Biology/Book%3A_General_Biology_(Boundless)/08%3A_Photosynthesis/8.05%3A_The_Light-Dependent_Reactions_of_Photosynthesis_-_Absorption_of_Light

Its ancient dusty, pre-covid exposure memories, but I took a course as a graduate student covering the quantum physics of photosynthesis, and that’s https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-phyto-080417-045931. In the above image, the peaks on the left at around 400-500 can be thought of as blue light, and the peaks around 640-800 can be thought of as red light. Both of these wavelengths of light are involved in photosynthesis, which you can think of as in a manner, solar fusion in reverse. The plant has to take the light from the sun (the product of fusion), and get that energy reattached to a molecule. In fact, iirc, its basically the same electron orbital diagram. And it does make sense, because physically, that is what is happening.

These days I do much more boring stuff, but I always loved photosynthesis. Its probably one of my favorite chemical reactions. Nah fuck that it is my favorite chemical reaction.

So like, yeah. Plants have a TON of information about their environment. Granted, their photosensors don’t have lenses, but they are constantly gathering and reacting to information about the quantity, quality, and locations of light. Afa resolution? Thats like, actually a super interesting question. Not having a lens is a big drawback.

Classy, in Birding for Botanists

I call them pretty birds, unless I’m calling them a little fucker, and that’s because it’s a chickadee that won’t hold still for 2 goddamn seconds so I can get a photo

lol3droflxp, in MIGHTY MIGHTY HETEROMORPHIN TIME
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Has anyone got some conclusive theories on the functional morphology of this?

GBU_28,

This was the “fuck around” era of evolution and being wacky was cool

LouisGarbuor,

In my history of life class I was tought it was to do with controlling buoyancy, although all the variation seems odd for that.

Maybe a combination of controlling buoyancy with species identification?

lol3droflxp,
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Might be plausible. I’ll have to look it up at one point, maybe there’s some research on this. I think it may be hard to guess why because we don’t have many swimming animals with shells. I don’t know if snails may offer some answers but they are maybe to different in lifestyle.

LouisGarbuor, (edited )

Probably too different, as snails are benthic, while ammonites where probably nektonic.

Iirc the shells being longer is something about allowing gases in the shell to compress or expand as needed to control bouyancy. I would imagine there is a sac of gas, and the ammonites would siphon water in or out as needed to compress or decompress the gas.

Edit: just looked it up on Wikipedia, it appears the heteromorph ammonites are thought to have maybe been planktonic or benthic.

Definitions for non-nerds:

Benthic means living on or near the sea floor.

Nektonic means free swimming

Planktonic means going with the current as plankton. I should note plankton aren’t all tiny, some are visibile to the naked eye. All it means is unable to propel themselves against current.

lol3droflxp,
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It is certainly a challenge to keep a large animal with such a thick shell afloat. However that would just explain the immense size of the shells. Their shape is just extremely weird and sometimes I’d even expect it to be detrimental to their ability to navigate the open water. If they were planktonic it would not be as problematic I guess but I still don’t see the functional advantage. Maybe mimicry? But of what?

They look a lot like the calcareous shells of some polychaetes but they have a sedentary lifestyle attached to rock or other substrates which is not what we’d expect for Ammonites.

Maybe it’s a puzzle that will remain unsolved.

IndiBrony, in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.
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I have three words if you love laughing at idiots like this: Mud. Fossil. University.

Enjoy.

robotopera,

Holy shit that’s a deep library. I’m going in

davidalso,

That’s fun.

Fermion, in 🌰🌰🌰 Quercus Master Race 🌰🌰🌰

Title says Quercus, but emojis say Castanea.

Assman, (edited ) in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.
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Mountains is stumps

Kolanaki,
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Plateaus are stumps of mountains.

Jode, in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.

Behold, Erdtree

Kolanaki,
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Erdtree O Erdtree,

Erdtree O Erdtree

moistclump, in MIGHTY MIGHTY HETEROMORPHIN TIME

I read hetrimorph ammonite time in “peanut butter jelly time” tune.

Batman, in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.

My dataset says there is a one to one relationship between mountains and stumps (n=3). Infinite-Power.jpg.gif

PrincessLeiasCat, in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.

I’m obviously not getting this one lol

Decoy321,

No need to overthink a meme, but here’s my guess.

They’re correlating the shapes of the objects, implying some causation.

There isn’t.

PrincessLeiasCat,

Ahh okay, that makes more sense. Thanks!

lugal,

Just be happy that you don’t get it. There are flat earthers out there who will say it unironically. Not sure if it’s only flat earthers but I think so. It really is wild

Slovene,

Are you stumped?

PrincessLeiasCat,

You could say that my formations have been rocked.

averyminya, in Listen, Susan. It's a valid theory, just look at the damn thing.

Wow, that’s awesome. I’ve been thinking a lot about the scale of the universe and how cyclical it is.

Take a scaled out view of our solar system and then compare it to a molecules composition (the atom or group of atoms surrounded by protons and neutrons) and the similarities are just uncanny.

Like this image, what’s to say that we aren’t just part of a molecule making up the chemical composition of something far larger than ourselves. An ant has no concept of the vast empty space between the United States and Europe, we know that is the case between solar systems but our actual understanding of our relationship in space is limited.

P.S. look at the patterns of discharge of electricity in wood/paper/stone and then look at the patterns of the Grand Canyon. They’re the same! And the Grand Canyon is the only formation we have that exhibits this quality, which makes it extra interesting.

DroneRights,

Take a scaled out view of our solar system and then compare it to a molecules composition (the atom or group of atoms surrounded by protons and neutrons) and the similarities are just uncanny.

Nah, the planetary model of the atom is outdated. The quantum model doesn’t look very much like a solar system.

sudoreboot, (edited )
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The quantum model doesn’t look very much like a solar system.

Not even a little bit, really. Quantum mechanics is in fact almost nothing like what school taught me.

moistclump, in It's a sample. For my desk.

I thought lemmy was all about nice sticks. We moving on to rocks now?

moistclump,

Branching out.

nodimetotie,

Lemmy rocks!!!

southsamurai,
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First, you get a stick, then you get a rock.

Tie the rock to the stick, and you’ve got something!

moistclump,

A stick-rock!

moistclump, in chadodiles

They’re kinda scared of hippos, so much so that hippo baby’s use them for teething and they just kinda take it.

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