Eh, sorry to burst your bubble, but not really true about Tito. Plenty of Nazis and their collaborators lived their lives through the socialist period and were rehabilitated with honors after the anti-communist nationalists took over in the 1990’s.
The one single example where they did execute a lot of them was, when they were trying to run away to the West killing and burning their way through in the process, even after the Nazi Germany capitulated. They reached the British forces, who returned them to Tito’s partisans…many of whom, with their families, suffered greatly from these Nazis.
To this day Croatian Nazis are holding a memorial on that location (in Austria) backed by the Croatian parliament funds. Memorial was infamous for open displays of Nazi ideology until even Austrians got fed up with it…
The reprisals against Italian fascists and their collaborators were so small in scale, they are rarely even mentioned.
Ah Bleiburg, most famous place of nazis rallying and crying about how they lost and were thrown in pits. Unfortunately some ran in Argentina or Spain or wherever and waren’t caught. Like for example Vladika Nikolai, a fascist patriarch who supported Holocaust and genocide of Native Americans who is worshipped today as a ‘‘saint’’.
The Dachau example is a good one to raise whenever there’s handwringing about Cuban peasants killing Batista thugs or Chinese peasants killing landlords.
I figured it was best to leave the Croats (too much hassle, best left a rump state) and Bosnians be, tbh. In my heart I want big Yugoslavia, but Croats in particular are suspect
I’d include both completely, but would have to think real hard about Bulgaria
Don’t leave Istra out of Yugoslavia. They were really big on antifascism. It’s not right to let them continue suffering for it. At that point you might as well include the Dalmatian coastline and islands. Amazing for the economy, and very low nationalistic tendencies, especially on the islands. And let’s not forget regions of Krajina that weren’t completely ethnically cleansed.
Think about Republika Srpska. Literally today Stuart Peach came out to say that it can’t be independent. Shit’s really heating up
True; in a later post I changed it around- in the more pessimistic/“realistic” map (ie the one built off what you’re seeing here) I had the other former parts of Yugoslavia return, but under UN supervision- and in the optimistic map I simply had Yugoslavia, whole and happy and mostly uncomplicated.
I actually spruced up the optimistic map some since, but figured I don’t want to flood lemmygrad with maps- but here’s the latest version- (also just realized saving in .jpg rather than .png gives just the size decrease along with already heavy resizing, to upload straight to lemmy) https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d2b8e981-861f-4a32-8565-6b69d3c93e18.jpeg
I can’t open the later one, the image fails to load.
The imgur link or the uploaded file? Just in case, here: imgur.com/a/A6D7fkj
Any non-aligned type of alliances?
Admittedly didn’t think of non-aligned movements too much in this case. Heavily aligned movements (a communist, anti-imperialist bloc or two, pan-Africanism, pan-Indigenism, pan-Arabism, pan-Celticism)? Sure. Internationalist countries and a global effort to prevent imperialism from reemerging, or western revanchism to cause trouble? Also definitely, sure. But in these scenarios where the west is decidedly out of the game for the foreseeable future- I’d like to imagine, perhaps in real life as well, that a large and common focus would be keeping them there.
UN supervision, now that’s a horrific idea.
Thanks! I had a lot of fun adding it to places, TBH. I figured in borders that would no doubt leave a lot of people angry (not to mention the indigenism and de-Nazification programs underway) such a world would certainly need it. In the “pessimistic” version of the map there are 90 UN mandate regions labeled in total (and 1 African Union mandate), though these labels range from areas as large as Australia, Poland, and the southern half of Quebec, to as tiny as… the Aland islands, London, or a containment zone around Washington DC (most of the areas are approximately Netherlands-sized).
There are also 8 “international cities” (in other circumstances, I likely would have placed a whole lot more), all of which are UN mandates- in my imagining of it, those cities would be under permanent UN governance, with open borders to literally anyone from across the globe- London, Manchester, Birmingham, Paris, the Vatican, NYC (renamed for indigeneity), Washington DC (the aforementioned containment zone), and… Lisbon, because I felt I wasn’t balkanizing Portugal near enough, with just cutting off the Algarves. I had a lot of fun imagining the tantrums that would ensue from that as well. One can assume these to be sanctuary cities, on speed and steroids, but with the humanistic element of no longer being run by neoliberal ghouls which probably comes out as far more than a win.
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