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demesisx, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I have run into too many instances of billionaire defenders on lemmy.world and kbin.social for this community NOT to exist. I get into strange arguments (where, from my perspective, I am just defending common sense or open standards) with frothing fascist, astroturfing fanbois about their chosen billionaire and I felt like I had nowhere to go, “look at this fucking corporate cuck”. ;)

Blaze, to announcements in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

But wouldn’t it be great if the knitting community (for example) on beehaw.org, lemmy.ml, lemmy.world and feddit.de would be merged for me into one entity for a better browsing experience?

Why wouldn’t they merge on one instance? Seems easier, and can be done today compared to having to ask the developers to implement a complex feature.

CrypticCoffee, (edited ) to announcements in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT

I think it’s worth bringing a solution in house. A recommended migration route. If you want people to feel confident to pick any instance, you have to give them the confidence to move easily and not fear picking a small instance that might die when their owner gets bored. A simple setting option to migrate from, then you select the account and either (through communities accessible, or through automated request, pull that data and subscribe to communities. Maybe blocks etc also.

zeppo, to lemmy_support in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

From what I understand, yes, moderation is not federated. That’s good in that instances can enforce their own mod standards, but it also means spam/harmful content has to be removed by each server individually.

No idea if there’s an appeal process but you could ask on the lemmy.world support community.

Max_P, to lemmy_support in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

(a) Yes. Instance admins have the ultimate say in what’s on their server. They can delete posts, entire communities, ban remote users and delete remote users. At least they had the decency of notifying you!

Since lemmy.ca owns the post, lemmy.world can’t federate out the removal, so it’s only on lemmy.world.

(b) You have to go appeal to lemmy.world. Each instance have its own independent appeal process.

That’s the beauty of the fediverse: instances can all have their rules to tailor the experience to their users, and it doesn’t have to affect the entire fediverse. Other instances linked to lemmy.ca can still see and interact with your post just fine, just not lemmy.world.

ada, (edited ) to lemmy_support in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ok, there’s your instance, instance A, that hosts your personal account. There’s the instance that hosts the community, instance B, and a random instance that your content has federated to, but doesn’t host you or the community directly. This is instance C.

If an admin on A (instance A mods can’t remove this post) removes your post, it gets removed on other instances too, including B and C.

If an admin or community mod on instance B removes your post, it gets removed on other instances too, including A and C.

However, if an admin on C removes your post (a moderator on C can’t), then it is only removed on instance C. Instance A and B and any other instances the content has federated to aside from C, continue to see replies, edits, votes etc

averyminya, to chat in Thinking about the direction of Beehaw

I think that’s a great description, in part it’s what drew me here with the idea that the discussions and topics are always from a kind and informational perspective, without the common “sneer tone” that can so often overtake conversations on the internet.

Personally my experience with users on Beehaw has been entirely kind, thoughtful, and full of knowledgeable people, whatever the topic may be. The few poor experiences I have had here were from outside instances, it’s true, and I can’t imagine just how much of that you all must have to deal with. But I have also had just as many incredibly thoughtful interactions from some federated instances as well, generally the (seemingly) smaller instances. I feel like maybe every 1 in 10 comments through the posts I go to read in All might have be negative or purposeful troll, but all the rest are at least coming from a perspective that I can understand even if I may not agree - but it’s always worth engaging because it drives good thoughtful conversation.

I have an account on slrpnk that is federated with lemmy.world and it can be unbearable to use sometimes - the slrpnk community itself is wonderful, but lemmy.world dominates the All feed, and lemmy.world comments… it’s a mix of dismissive and instigative. I feel like every 1 in 10 comments might be coming from a kind and thoughtful perspective. Comments are immediately downvoted, often times there’s comments no more than a sentence long through a whole thread. Except for moderators, but there’s just a tone that I can’t quite place among reading the interactions that feels… maybe not entirely welcoming? However I also understand they have a lot going on there, and certainly some history I’m missing.

Anyway, that’s a long way of saying I really, really value both the Beehaw community & mods and our set of instances, even if there may be a few that still have problems that I don’t get to see as a regular user. But I do know that I value all of your comments enough to see what you have to say and get to know my internet friends - Chris, your determination for community is inspiring and you’ve got some cool hobbies! And the few times I have seen moderator intervention and extended discussion, I’ve yet to come across an example where I think any of you handled it poorly. (All of you) Your contributions here are more than mod team leaders when you need to be, you feel like community members through and through - which unfortunately feels rare for a mod team!

Regarding federation and instances - maybe the family analogy is something that can be adapted? Here on local we are the immediate family but the instances that I appreciate the most I still feel are cousins. I think many of them appreciate us as well. Unfortunately, I think the negative users overall will not be prevented from their bad habit by a sidebar and our philosophy. With that in mind I think federation with servers that focus on sharing knowledge is the most important.

From the recent post made on I think lemmy.ml regarding Beehaw’s federation - the reception was terrible. It felt terrible to read. But looking through the comments, I would say over 80% of them at least had to be lemmy.world users who have never even interacted here - or if they did were soon defederated from and clearly salty about it, all of those getting ~30-50 upvotes. It was a literal circlejerk about our instance coming from a flawed or probably just intentionally wrong perspective. Information like a game of telephone. If it weren’t so inflammatory it would have been funny, given my actual experiences here.

However, the rest of the comments though were from a wide, wide array of instances saying they would miss our presence, with it being about a 50/50 split from lemmy.ml itself. And each instance I happened to see that felt positively about us, I likewise had only ever had good interactions from members of those instances as well.

Luckily, I had already seen just how awful lemmy.world can really be, as I mentioned I’d created my slrpnk account just a few weeks ago which is actually where I saw that post, maybe just last week or so? Suffice to say, the reception from them was not surprising in the least because to me it seems clear the intent is to tear down, not lift up. You cannot share knowledge in a tear down community because no matter what, somehow your knowledge is wrong.

Users here just have a completely different intention and way of using and interacting with the internet. Users on other smaller instances feel like that intention is there too. We share knowledge with the intent of further gaining and growing our ideas and abilities and because it helps another member of our community. That is becoming more and more rare on the web and I really value our presence in the fediverse and I believe that there are others that do too.

Whatever the future may hold for our instance, I’ll likely migrate with and keep it as part of my sites, but I do worry about the continued level of engagement over time. On the other hand, I realize I don’t like the wider fediverse as much as I thought I did after my last month or so looking around on other accounts. (I definitely need to curate better, though). Anyway, I saw this post 14 minutes in and I only got distracted once so… Happy new year to all and I look forward to our next interaction!

johnjamesautobahn, to chat in Thinking about the direction of Beehaw

I’m new to the fediverse and chose to join Beehaw because the community interactions feel positive like an active private forum that I’m on, but with the structural flexibility of a federated platform.

There is definitely a tone change between local communities and the outside federated feed, but I worry that secession and isolation will lead to community atrophy— it’s already a small instance and without the cross-pollination of outside users and content it may not have enough momentum to succeed

bjoern_tantau, to asklemmy in Thoughts on reddit reposter bots?
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I like it to keep track of communities that don’t have enough members here to be very active. I don’t participate in the discussions, but it’s good in case some news come out that I would miss otherwise.

Lemmit.online is also good, because it actually lets you know that it’s mirroring reddit. There was another instance that was mirroring reddit including comments, without any indication. I started “participating” in the discussions until I caught on to the fact that I wasn’t getting any answers or up- or downvotes because it was just full of bots. It soon landed on my blacklist.

Lauchs, to risa in Ferengi Whispers

Well, there goes half of lemmy!

If anyone cares to elaborate, was this instance or community stuff? Anything we the grateful upvoters/readers/occasional posters can do?

peicheng, (edited ) to asklemmy in Chinese speaking Lemmy instances?

Self reply.

I found two Chinese instances:

  1. bbs.9tail.net: focused on anime/comic/game/vtuber related topics.
  2. nicelink.me: Only one community for link sharing. Federation seems to be disabled.

They are both hosted in Taiwan.

cyborganism, to memes in Lies

Set it to view communities from all instances. That’s how I get fresh content.

hal_5700X, (edited ) to asklemmy in What if reddit joins race of services joing fediverse?
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Seeing how some communities have bots. Who post Reddit content on to Lemmy. Also since the 0.19 update, users can block instances. So nothing will happen. If Reddit does that.

EDIT People wanted the Fediverse to get more popular. So more popular it gets, more big companies and an like will join the Fediverse. So mission accomplished, everyone. 🥳

I might move again. (Or not) (lemy.lol)

I moved from Lemmy.ml because I liked the name of Lemmy.world and it ran a newer Lemmy version which meant I could make communities. I moved from Lemmy.world because they defederated from piracy communities they didn’t even host (but for some reason still kept the small piracy community they DID host) From thelemmy.club...

KazuyaDarklight, to asklemmy in How does federation actually work?
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If you’re replying to a community on your home server, all actions should be similar levels of responsiveness, I think replying to another servers community may involve “some” active communication with the instance? Simple way to test this, if you are replying a lot on to another servers community, since you are browsing anyway, would be to just open the server/community directly and click around, if it’s feels a bit slow, then that server is overloaded by a bit and that’s probably the source of your issue. Otherwise we need someone with deeper knowledge in this thread.

BlueEther, to selfhosted in No posts when surfing through my i stance
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Most of yhe subscribed communities seem to be working on your instance. When did you subscribe to permacomputing@lemmy.sdf.org? was it after the upgrade to 0.19.x?

tal, to lemmy_support in Version 0.19.1 outgoing federation issues for anyone else?
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

This post, a day before yours on the lemmy_support@lemmy.ml community, is describing some similar behavior, with some CPU usage at start (at least on the first boot; not clear whether that is a one-off on migration from the text) and then federation problems with 0.19.1:

lemmy.ml/post/9563852?scrollToComments=true

After upgrading Lemmy from 0.18.5 to 0.19.1, the lemmy_server process is taking up 200-350+% of my CPU…It seems like my instance isn’t federating properly now tho.

OK mateys, let's talk about direct links. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

The original /r/piracy was purposefully gimped because Reddit received DMCAs for any random thing and didn’t even bother to follow up. Since we’re in new waters, I want things to be a bit more relaxed, but there’s a limit on how relaxed we can be, without starting to get lawsuits, which I will not be able to fight off. I...

RainfallSonata, to asklemmy in ...

I have no idea how to block an instance. I only just figured out I can block communities.

Shadow, to datahoarder in How to datahoard Lemmy
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Run your own instance, subscribe to every community, then backup the db.

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