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dessalines, to announcements in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT

I don’t think we should bake in anything to the software, but instances having meta and feedback communities are a good idea.

ademir, (edited ) to announcements in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
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But I think we need to do more, and I’d def appreciate yours and anyone else’s ideas on how we can combat centralization.

I am admin of the biggest Brazilian instance, but I am welcoming more local instances and talking to the admins we should spread the load. But what I notice is the users are concerned they will miss out if they are not in an instance that already have everything.

Could we have an easier way to auto-federate every new communities from a given instance? Even an “auto-federate everything possible” option. as @nutomic said lemmy DB isn’t too big, most instance owners could have it on their servers. And making it opt-in won’t hurt the small instances.

9point6, (edited ) to asklemmy in What is a niche interest or hobby you'd personally like to see represented more on Lemmy

It’s not even that niche imo, but just more music production content in general. There was an instance focused on this a few months ago, but it seems to have gone and not returned.

On Reddit, you have communities of music makers around theory, various genres, various software, synths, and deals. It’s definitely a source of inspiration I miss.

ada, (edited ) to lemmy_support in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
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Ok, there’s your instance, instance A, that hosts your personal account. There’s the instance that hosts the community, instance B, and a random instance that your content has federated to, but doesn’t host you or the community directly. This is instance C.

If an admin on A (instance A mods can’t remove this post) removes your post, it gets removed on other instances too, including B and C.

If an admin or community mod on instance B removes your post, it gets removed on other instances too, including A and C.

However, if an admin on C removes your post (a moderator on C can’t), then it is only removed on instance C. Instance A and B and any other instances the content has federated to aside from C, continue to see replies, edits, votes etc

peicheng, (edited ) to asklemmy in Chinese speaking Lemmy instances?

Self reply.

I found two Chinese instances:

  1. bbs.9tail.net: focused on anime/comic/game/vtuber related topics.
  2. nicelink.me: Only one community for link sharing. Federation seems to be disabled.

They are both hosted in Taiwan.

Rentlar, to asklemmy in Thoughts on reddit reposter bots?

There are certain niches where automated mirroring is a little useful.

Game day threads, part sales (where people need to be quick) are a couple examples.

I have most post bots blocked though (lemmit, alien, lululemon, etc.).

Like others said the downsides are that they drown out original posts and discussions with authors that never respond to comments. Consequently, the not-logged-in experience on instances that “leave it up to users to block” will appear messy and full of garbage.

I think they have their place but those automated should be contained to communities that want them, easily identified, easy to block and post rate limited to reasonable levels.

A yet to be developed feature in Lemmy would be the ability to somehow “opt-in follow” automated bot posts rather than the current “opt-out” model.

spaduf, (edited ) to mensliberation in Discussion on moving to another instance

Some other instances that have come to mind:
slrpnk.net - Seems like something of a natural fit considering they are also the home of !twoxchromosomes which is roughly the same size and number of active users
lemmy.world - This is a fairly general community and so it makes some sense to be on a fairly general instance

registrert, to asklemmy in What are Lemmy's unwritten rules?
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Checking post histories and holding it against users, presenting Lemmy as “a site” instead of interoperating and independent instances where one can tailor ones experience, not advocating finding more suitable communities…

Very reddit behaviour to my eyes.

IzyaKatzmann, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

what do you mean refuse by principle to fix it? the solution that comes to mind is for a whitelist that is implemented either in federation broadly or lemmy specifically for certain categories (think TLDs) which are agreed to have a certain focus, like on literature or video games or music, where the instances themselves can join or link to.

kinda bypass a community being held hostage (or kept isolated) by an instance, the whitelists can be determined through a simple majority (first past the post) or any other method by members of communities rather than instance moderators/admins.

i get that many folks don’t like hexbear and i have nothing against them, i certainly don’t want to force them to see content they don’t want; giving granular control over specific content (not just a blacklist like per-user instance blocking) seems ideal.

what do you think?

gohixo9650, to memes in Why? Are we not doing enough?

Less content, that is spread across multiple instances that can have duplicate communities.

on top of that, there redundant communities that are unnecessary even in the same instances. For example there is the android@ and the askandroid@. The first one has a decent amount of subscribers while the second one has a single digit number. I wanted to ask a question, I posted in the first one since it would make sense to reach more people. The post got deleted and I was told to go to the other one. In the first one they were posting only news articles.

This is ridiculous. Splitting communities in such way was the result of the huge traffic that such communities had in the past in other platforms. This makes sense only when the traffic is so huge that it is practically chaotic to navigate and moderate between news/articles and support questions. When both communities combined have 50 subscribers, such split only harms the platform and the users.

Everyone wanted to migrate by bringing an identical environment to what they had used to. However this should be adaptable to the current situation instead of directly copying it.

Max_P, to asklemmy in How are "We" to place trust in the fediverse?
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Similarly, the high availability of source code may lead to malicious instances, actors, and/or back-end modifications that would favor specific instances resounding consequence throughout the Fediverse.

That’s ultimately just the Internet being the Internet.

On the fediverse, any instance shouldn’t blindly trust any other instance for that exact reason. That’s part of the game. Instances share the data over ActivityPub, and it’s up to you to process and make use of that data. That includes spam filtering and whatnot. Some instances have CSAM detection for example.

Every instance that’s subscribed to a user or community gets the full set of data: every vote, from every user, from every instance involved. We have the data, we can analyze it. And that’s what really matters.

It doesn’t matter if there’s rogue instances trying to manipulate votes. Everyone have the data to detect and filter out the noise. Maybe one day it’ll be like E-Mail where the majority of the traffic is spam. But just like E-Mail, we’ll make filters and make it work. If all else fails, there’s always the allowlist method: only see content from sources you trust not be spammy. You can even run AI models on it to filter the data if you want. You have the data, you can do whatever you want with it to make it useful for you.

I have faith in the protocol and its openness, not the software that runs it.

Nibodhika, to asklemmy in How are "We" to place trust in the fediverse?

Similarly, the high availability of source code may lead to malicious instances, actors, and/or back-end modifications that would favor specific instances resounding consequence throughout the Fediverse.

Historically availability of source code has prevented that sort of thing since forever. Plus you can’t favor a specific instance, that’s the beauty of the protocol. It’s like saying google can favourite a specific email provider, they can’t, if suddenly Gmail stops receiving or sending emails to random domains people would just switch boats because you can register on any of the other email providers that don’t do that. Gmail can collect your data and all, but all data on Lemmy is public, so there’s no need to mess with the source code to gather data.

So what are you worried about? Mods moderating content in ways you don’t like? That will happen on any platform that allows moderation, and you don’t want to use one that doesn’t (plus it has nothing to do with the open source nature of the server, and you can jump to another community with different mods). Maybe you’re worried that malicious software will run on your phone? That’s more likely to happen with a closed source software, if you’re truly paranoid about these things you would have a full open source phone with a custom OS without google components flashed into it, I can see that you’re not on that level since you still don’t understand that open source is needed for transparency. Or maybe you’re worried the server itself will host malicious content? Any server can do that, servers that host things people write will always be able to host malicious content, it’s not hard to link to an external website or provide malicious scripts or files, just don’t click on random links or download random things from strangers online and you should be mostly fine.

tun, to lemmybewholesome in After watching the 2nd episode of 11th season of Futurama, I googled "Futurama S11E02 discussion" (without quotes) and Lemmy.world was the 2nd result. We can do it, guys.

Cheers to the community and plethora of apps available.

We should also thank Lemmy creator and contributors making it search engine friendly and instance admins to make the result appear higher (faster response, https, crawlability, etc.)

Dave, to asklemmy in hey - trying to switch from Chrome to Firefox, what are your recommended extensions and/or quality of life addins, etc?
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Lemmy Instance Assistant It does things like if someone links a post and the link takes you to the post on another instance, it adds a button to show the post on your home instance. You can also right click on a page (say, an article on a news site) or image and choose the option to share it on lemmy, which creates a new post. It also has stuff to help you when you click a link to a community but the community is not federated to your server, or you can go to the list of communities on another instance and it will have links to take you to that community on your home instance. That sort of thing. Basically the beginnings of a RES for lemmy.

I also like Dictionary Anywhere, which lets you double click on a word to get a definition, a bit like the one Google one for Chrome.

There are also various container extensions such as a Facebook or Google one, that isolates those sites to attempt to prevent that activity being associated with your activity on other sites. It can be a little annoying to get used to but I use them. The annoying thing is that when you click say a google site from a search result on duckduckgo, it closes the duckduckgo tab and opens the site in a google container, but then you can’t click back to go back to the search results.

The general container tabs extension is good too. It keeps separate cookies per container. So say if you have 3 different microsoft accounts, you can create different containers. Then you can open a new tab in a specific container and it will remember the account you logged into last time in that specific container, but doesn’t affect other containers or tabs not in a container.

pjhenry1216, to asklemmy in How can I back up a community I mod?

Setup your own instance (don't even need to allow other members), create the community there. Then just create some alt accounts on other instances that you think would be interested in your community. Subscribe to your community from those instances to at least get your stuff to appear. Than hope for the best.

elkaki, to asklemmy in How do I block all porn/nude posts?

Another solution if you don’t want to turn them off completely is either to:

  • Join an instance that has lemmynsfw and its alternatives blocked.

Or

  • Block them yourself, I don’t know how to do this on browser but if you use this site on mobile, the app “connect for lemmee” has an option to block all comments and posts from people of any instance you choose, which is a lot more effective than blocking communities separately.

Have you had any bad experiences with people on Lemmy?

I was recently talking to some friends about Lemmy and the whole Fediverse idea, as it seemed like a really cool part of the Internet. As I was talking about it, though, I realized how unusually friendly this whole place is, and I joked that I “surprisingly haven’t found any bigotry.”...

trouser_mouse, to asklemmy in Have you had any bad experiences with people on Lemmy?
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There is plenty of rudeness, hostility, and general toxicity and bigotry to go around. But there is also a lot of kindness, thoughtful consideration, and people who want to do the best for the platform and communities forming here.

I feel like the amount of more challenging or unwanted behaviour has gone up just in the time I’ve been here (hopefully not because of me!). From hardly seeing much of that in the first week or so, to then gradually seeing more and more as presumably more people move over from Reddit.

Be interesting to see how instances and communities respond, and if a more firm line will be drawn.

j4k3, to asklemmy in What is the best anonymous image hosting site?
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Most are trackerware. I was using Post Images but they ban your IP if you bypass their tracker links and link to images directly. If you only have a few images, or you don’t mind kicking a guy a few bucks for self hosting there is catbox.moe. If you’re only needing temporary hosting that same guy has litterbox.moe.

If you are concerned about posting images directly to the larger instances, don’t be. They have cheap third party storage options setup, and all the images are cached on the instances anyways. External hosting is only helpful for long term storage and small instances that host communities. It wouldn’t hurt to kick a buck or two into the pot to help the instances you use a lot. It’s like $5 per terabyte per month for 3rd party storage.

Nemo, to asklemmy in Is it a good idea to enable "show bot accounts" on lemmy?

There are many helpful bots, like the one that corrects community links to be instance-neutral.

NotTheOnlyGamer, to RedditMigration in People in /r/redditalternatives are talking about a "Reddit 2.0" What website would fill that role?
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Frankly, you're incorrect. It's an incredible pain in the neck to try and deal with the Fediverse beyond local content. Without better community merging or centralization, browsing instances becomes no different than dealing with having mail on three or four non-multiplexed BBSes, or talking on forums before we had tabbed browsing. It's incredibly annoying, and pushes people right back to centralized systems.

LollerCorleone, to RedditMigration in I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
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Yes, that will show you all the communities/magazines that your instance has already discovered and have started federating with. But if it is a community that hasn't been discovered by your instance yet, you will need to search with the link for it to start federating. And once even a single user from an instance does that, the community will be visible to everyone else as well.

megane_kun, to asklemmy in Whaf do you think of hosting an AMA with John Oliver to make Lemmy/kbin officially a viable Reddit replacement?
@megane_kun@lemmy.world avatar

Not just the architecture, but also the possible logistics of such an event. Who'd contact John Oliver's PR team, for example. What about the scheduling? Also, while I think people here are good-natured enough that it might not be necessary, who'd be making sure that the thread responses (the questions) don't violate any community and instance rules?

I may be overthinking it, but such a huge event would involve a lot of coordination from many different people.

dill, (edited ) to asklemmy in How would you explain to a new user how Lemmy works?
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I would lean hard into the ux being work in progress. Also as instances / communities mature I would expect the specifics on what federation means and the technology behind it will be less relevant to the average user.

tunetardis, to asklemmy in How would you explain to a new user how Lemmy works?

I am a new user. To me it felt a bit like signing up with an ISP. There's a list you can choose from, rather than there just being a single reddit.

Once you sign up with an ISP, you can go anywhere on the Internet. Similarly, once you sign up with an instance, you can go anywhere in the fediverse.

Unlike an ISP, there are no costs or fees involved in signing up, though you are more than welcome to help fund the upkeep of an instance through donations. Unlike reddit, lemmy is not a profit-driven operation trying to serve you ads all the time.

In terms of choosing an instance, bigger is not necessarily better. Personally, I went with the medium-sized lemmy.ca as I am Canadian and it seemed to make sense, and have since learned that some of the bigger instances are struggling to keep up with surging demand as people seek alternatives to reddit.

Once you have an account, you can go into Communities, click on the All tab (which lets you see the whole fediverse), and start searching for and subscribing to whatever interests you. Communities are similar to subreddits, and there's a good chance you will even find one with the same name.

baronvonj, to asklemmy in Can lemmy be used as a blog (with comment section)?
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You wouldn’t even need to host your own instance, really. You could create a community and check the option that only mods can post. But you can’t follow people on Lemmy.

What about calckey?

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