This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they’d like to myself, @nutomic , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today....
I think it’s worth bringing a solution in house. A recommended migration route. If you want people to feel confident to pick any instance, you have to give them the confidence to move easily and not fear picking a small instance that might die when their owner gets bored. A simple setting option to migrate from, then you select the account and either (through communities accessible, or through automated request, pull that data and subscribe to communities. Maybe blocks etc also.
If it is not the default and automatic, then lemmy is a pointless reddit clone.
You have to filter out what you don’t want because it is not possible to undelete what has already been deleted.
Users will just circulate ready made blacklists of spammer and thoughtcriminal communities to automatically remove them all from their feed.
The alternative is that only the biggest instance and the biggest community will matter and writing everywhere else is just a exercise in pointlessness
Stupid mods, well one of them, refuse to even look at a dictionary definition of the word troglodyte and prefers to stick to the idiotic method of using Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. End result is that I was banned for calling living humans troglodytes even though there are communities in Tunesia and China (and I supplied links,...
Yet insisting I am calling them a prehistoric cave dweller and subhuman when I am providing proof otherwise is exactly what they criticize Trump and his cohorts of doing. That’s the kind of juvenile bs that goes on in high school, on Facebook, and in Elon Musk;s house.
BTW, I wasn’t banned from the instance, I was banned from the community.
I’m fine on Lemmy.zip. TBH, it seems to be the instance where I see more of Lemmy than on any other instance. Guess that’s because they don’t really block many others or not many block them. My gripe is the censorship on that community especially since it seems to be the only active political community I’ve found with my shitty search skills. I’m sure there are other communities that censor like the authoritarian instances beehaw and lemmy.ml for example, but I haven’t really run into them yet.
Try the link again. It’s the proper way to link to communities using Lemmy.
I’ll try the link, and if it works, it works. If it doesn’t, I move on. It’s not my job to try to make it work, it’s supposed to “just work”.
Your link doesn’t give people on other instances the easy option to subscribe to the community.
I’m aware, I was just trying to give a pointer to the forum (assuming the link doesn’t work for others as well), so people can manually subscribe if they wanted to, as a community service.
So you’re saying you did know that Lemmy has the thing where if you’re the first one to ask to get community data from another instance the link will give you an error and you must click it again (or reload) to get the instanced version of that community for your instance, and then say that it doesn’t work?
That doesn’t sound to me like you knew how Lemmy works. I can agree that it should be more hands-off for the user and the server should silently just do the thing to get the instanced community before sending data back to the client, but that’s a different argument.
So you’re saying you did know that Lemmy has the thing where if you’re the first one to ask to get community data from another instance the link will give you an error and you must click it again (or reload) to get the instanced version of that community for your instance, and then say that it doesn’t work?
Yes, I did, and that’s bad design, bad programming, and goes against the expectation of every last freaking human being on the Internet as to how a link should work. And I’m saying that as someone who was a software developer for their whole career, and uses Lemmy on a daily basis, prolifically.
Edit: forgot to mention, I tried reloading twice, went back and re-clicked a couple of times, as well as when I did my reply I embedded that original link into the reply and then I tried it again from there, so I tried to resolve the link a bunch of times over a seven-minute period.
I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of Deceptive Imagery Persuasion. Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.
I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)
Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.
First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.
Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.
I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.
You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.
I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.
I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
I’m not sure if I’m part of this big exodus or not. I’ve been toying with the idea of migrating this comm for months, as lemmy.ml is focused on open source and privacy while mander.xyz is focused on sciences. It’ll be more discoverable there, it’ll be easier to access it across the Fediverse, and it’ll be easier to be on the same page as the admins when it comes to the rules.
The straw that broke the camel’s back, for me, was not even politics. Or even which sort of content they allow/deny in their instance. It was how they handled another lemmy.ml community; it shows that they’re completely unprepared as a team to handle users in an acceptable way.
OH sorry I read your comment too fast lol. For that I used lemmy migrate on GitHub, I have about 5 accounts across different instances and they all have mostly the same communities subscribed. I just go in and resync if I’ve subbed to any new ones lately, and it’ll tell you which ones don’t sync (like if one’s defederated or blocked or something in other instances).
I don’t think that’s the architecture of ActivityPub though. It’s not meant to be a queryable thing, or a datastore. It only sends deltas, and it’s your job to keep the data you care about and apply the changes as they come through. It’s why when an instance subscribes to a community it never has before there is no history, because it doesn’t have any. (I think Lemmy goes and gets one page though)
I probably should but I don’t feel like I’m qualified to create a fan community. (As in I don’t know enough about fans) Edit: Also I’m afraid there’s a community under that name on the instance I’m from and there can’t be two communities with the same name and instance right?
Not quite. An account on instance C that has moderator privileges on a community hosted on instance B can’t take any direct actions against instance B content.
All that can do is remove it in instance C. However, because they’re a moderator, that removal will federate to instance B, which will remove it there, and then federate that removal to any instance that the post federated to originally.
Right, so a user on C could be a moderator for !community, and could then remove it on instance B and it would federate; but if they deleted it only on instance C, it would not.
Threads should be Lemmy compatible. So in that sense Facebook already has an instance. The result is that many instances blocked them right away.
In the end I think this will all grow organically. Some companies might opt to host their forums on their own Lemmy instance. But that shouldn’t keep other instances from having their own communities about the same topics. More or less like it already is today.
And there already is drama with the non-commercial instances. People will gravitate to the communities they like and stay away from those they don’t. That should always be the case.
They only post in their own communities on their own instance. You will only see their posts if you’re subscribed to those communities or browse All Why would you consider that spam?
I moved from Lemmy.ml because I liked the name of Lemmy.world and it ran a newer Lemmy version which meant I could make communities. I moved from Lemmy.world because they defederated from piracy communities they didn’t even host (but for some reason still kept the small piracy community they DID host) From thelemmy.club...
How does what I’m talking about prevents federation? Lemmy is federated with kbin and mastodon even though they don’t work the same way…
I never said I see no value in what Lemmy created, I’m saying that the way they went about it might not have been the right one because now that there’s a lot of users and many instances were created, we can see that one major flaw in the system is that the instance’s admin can just decide they’re done with Lemmy and all content hosted on their instance just vanishes.
If your instance crashed I wouldn’t be able to see your messages until your instance was back online, that’s why when you copy a permalink to a comment it’s the address of their instance that you see, instances host the content posted by their own user no matter where it’s posted, instances communicate between themselves to share that info so their users see what other instances users post, that’s also why you might still see posts on communities of instances you’re defederated from, they’re posts by people from your own instance.
On the password thing, it’s no worse than what’s going with the current system, you’re trusting the instance admins not to leak anything… Heck, splitting up the lists could be even more secure since it could be equally divided between hosts instead of having a couple of instances hosting what amounts to over 50% of all credentials… What happens if lemmy.world’s admin leaks everything?
And I’m suggesting solutions, I don’t have the expertise to implement them. Do you believe that all tech is developed by the person who came up with an idea? Because I sure would love to meet the person that developed my cars seats, computer, engine and suspension, that single person must be one hell of a genius!
They come and go. They’re random clutter. We only need a few big instances that hosts a majority of the communities and that’s it. Why do we need so many smaller ones?
Small instances don’t prevent Lemmy from being centralized, people don’t mind if their instance defederates from an instance with 5 people. Medium-sized instances (e.g. dbzer0) prevent wrongful defederation, because people will suddenly miss a few communities / users.
Sorry, it’s been a tough couple of weeks and I was just frustrated. Layoffs finally got to me in the aftermath of the actors strike (leaderships reasoning, not mine because I actually saw what was going on internally).
I can’t tell sometimes if I’m trading one echo chamber for another. Reality is just bizarre sometimes. I had someone arguing with me about code in a video game. I wrote the code almost 10 years ago. I know reddit was just as bad, if not worse for that “loudest persons right” way of commenting. Usually it gets mixed in with a dash of hive mentality.
I know those points are all loosely related, I’m exhausted after working insane hours through the year with no vacation just to be dumped before the holidays. I need to unplug for a week or two I think.
Edit: Wait, about the comment I replied to? Yeah my bad. I’ve been avoiding disagreeing with people directly after I got harassed several months ago. I was really happy with that person’s comment, I was just a miserable prick at the time. I had to leave some communities and almost nuked my account when another lemmy instance unleashed their bots: every post I would walk into would be targeted and voted down into oblivion. You’d lose all visibility within a short period of time.
I’m not sure if there’s been work done since to address this, but I totally understand if they’re still not ready to tackle it. They are a volunteer crew after all. I should follow the repo on Github. Maybe there’s some small stuff I could help out with while I’m looking for work.
Mastodon will hopefully naturally grow as twitter continues to destroy itself. Lemmy might be a bit harder get people to stick with.
If they can find an instance that really fits them, or most of their communities are here, then it should be an easy transition. But if they’re missing their favorites, it’ll be tough to get them to stick with it.
Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they’d like to myself, @nutomic , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today....
politics@reddit,world - i mean lemmy.world
Stupid mods, well one of them, refuse to even look at a dictionary definition of the word troglodyte and prefers to stick to the idiotic method of using Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. End result is that I was banned for calling living humans troglodytes even though there are communities in Tunesia and China (and I supplied links,...
Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit? (lemm.ee)
Shocked Pikachu face meme.
Why is this so difficult? (sh.itjust.works)
Moving this community to !linguistics@mander.xyz
UPDATE, 2024/JAN/17: this address has been locked so mods only can post. Use the new one....
Is Sync for Android worth the cost?
R5: just started checking it out. It’s cool and has some advantages of others. It’s hella expensive. Thoughts?
(Resolved) Lemmy sends out an Undo of a Dislike as an Undo of a Like
Original dislike:...
There is no such thing as too many fans... (sh.itjust.works)
"Post has been removed"...on a different server?
Yesterday I created a post on a regional community on lemmy.ca....
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Thoughts on reddit reposter bots?
I’m new to lemmy but would like your opinion about instances like lemmy.online
I might move again. (Or not) (lemy.lol)
I moved from Lemmy.ml because I liked the name of Lemmy.world and it ran a newer Lemmy version which meant I could make communities. I moved from Lemmy.world because they defederated from piracy communities they didn’t even host (but for some reason still kept the small piracy community they DID host) From thelemmy.club...
Linux too mainstream for some 🤷 (sh.itjust.works)
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What is the point of small instances?
They come and go. They’re random clutter. We only need a few big instances that hosts a majority of the communities and that’s it. Why do we need so many smaller ones?
Microchips (i.postimg.cc)
Bringing the power of books to the fediverse (lemmy.world)
Aye mateys, I wanted to share this with you as you may be interested in a discussion on having annas-archive linked to the fedi....