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There isn’t much criticism to be had of layer 4 down, but when they got to layer 5 and 6, they were telecom people sticking their nose in software architecture.

That is true.

But, you have to understand, back when OSI was made, the only thing which could benefit from it was telecom and banking… there were no PCs as we know them today. It’s no surprise that OSI caters mostly to telecom software and needs.

And you could always just use the model up until layer 4, it’s pretty good up until layer 4, and just do whatever you like after that… if you’re developing your own protocol for something that is.

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That requires a different mindset and (maybe) a different level of eveolution. Food is free, you take what you need. Services are free, if your house needs something fixed, you call the adequate people, they do the job, that’s it. Same for healthcare, you just go to the doctor, no bill, you just leave (we used to have that around here). Tech products are free, you take what you need (TV, stereo, phone, PC, etc.). You go to work and do the same as everyone else, do your job and go home.

This is a very simplified version and as I said, it requires a different mindset. We’re not used to that right now, it’s alien to us.

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Not everywhere, Yugoslavia is a good example of things being implemented the right way. There is always room for improvement of course, things were far from perfect… and perfect is just such a strong word, the idea is not to be perfect, to always improve it.

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There are a lot of benefits to it, like no real central leadership (more like central steering, not really iron fisted dictators which is what most implementations of it turned out to be), abolishing the monetary system (if implemented all the way), communes decide for themselves, good free healthcare, people are at the center of the system, not money/profit, etc.

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Shit, I though at least one will be like “where linux” 🤣🤣🤣.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Derail the conversation… OK, now I know you’re just parroting what others have told you all your life.

0x4E4F,

Yeah, that’s what I meant by enterprise use, not IIS. And they’re still dominant on the audio/video production market. Basically, every aspect that is not just your everyday browsing or small office work.

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Balmer? Yes, I believe that was one of the biggest blunders at a conference he was attending 😂.

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Nah, Linus would never let that happen.

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Actually, it’s not that silly, TCP/IP is built on that model, so are many other protocols. Though yes, it can be done better.

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We did try that… derailing is what we got.

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You’ve obviously never read anything about communism or socialism.

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That’s a bad example, because at that point Yugoslavia couldn’t have existed without Tito – he was an extremely authoritarian figure that cracked down on any sort of controversial thought hard.

You obviously never lived in Yugoslavia. I have. It was nothing like that. Western media presented him like every other dictator there is out there, which couldn’t be further from the truth. Benevolent dictator, yes, that one he might have been, but an iron fisted one that went after everyone that so much as whispered something he didn’t like? No, that’s just not true.

Having an intelligent dictator as the unifying force isn’t a particularly good strategy, and Yugoslavia was bound to fail without an authority forcing it to stay together.

That might be true to an extent. Slovenia and Croatia didn’t like the federation, especially Sloveina… and yes, they were kinda forced into the federation after WWII. I would agree that Slovenia might have been better off if she was allowed to leave the federation. She should never have been a part of the federation anyway.

Croatia had a different problem. They wanted to be in the federation, but wanted to lead it. Tito had to balance. He was Croatian, so he had to put the capital in Serbia and pick most of the leading figures from the Serbs.

You have to understand, these regions were always riddled with nationalst wars. This was a chance for everyone to live peacefully, compromises had to be made. And we did live peacefully… up to a point.

Yugoslavia also wasn’t exactly as “communist” as other communist countries, they allowed private ownership of property and business and relied a lot on surrounding capitalist countries to have a decent standard of living and economy.

Yes, Yugoslavia was socialist, and that was also up to an extent (as mentioned, private ownership and other things).

Though, the idea was to be completely autonomous. The relying on capitalist countries part was supposed to be a temporary solution. And things were heading in the right direction (more or less… not saying things couldn’t have been done better), but tides shifted when Tito died and everything started falling appart. I could elaborate in more detail if you’d like, but I feel like it’s enough for this comment.

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It’s a meme dude, it’s a play on poster from the early 2000’s about pirating media.

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Communism and socialism are primarily social orders, not economic ones. Yes, there must be an economic order in place, but as a derivative of the social order, to serve the social order and make it better, to grow and mature. That is not the case with democracy and capitalism.

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Still, everything enterprise related or video/audio revolves around them (and Macs of course). That is one of their biggest assets now, as well as the “a perscription OS” spin they’re trying to pull on Windows. Also, their subscription services, people that do all sorts of businesses use them a lot.

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Yes, there was a war, but there were a lot of factors that contributed to that, including the US medling in internal affairs. In general, up until the death of Tito, everything was pretty much OK. The turmoils began after his death.

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Yep, it’s called math.

I was generally surprised at how many people can’t do simple math without a calc, like multiply 7 x 8.

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I memorized in 3rd grade or whatever my multiple tables, but I never trust 7 x 8.

Lol, that’s why I picked it 😂. I hate 7 x 8 as well 😂.

No I have to take it as 7 x 7 (49) + 7 (1 + 6), to get 56.

That’s how I do it as well 😂, 7 x 7 + 7, I never remebered 56 😂. Or 8 x 8 - 8, either way works for me 😂.

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Can’t get nore direct than that 🤣🤣🤣.

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Hm… so she calls you her wife as well, correct 🤔?

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I layed 30 CAT5e cables today, all at different locations, 450m of cable total… you really think I’m gonna get out of my sofa for pushups?

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Try rutracker.org or rutracker.ru. It may take a few days, up to a week sometimes, but they mostly have the latest releases from dance music. The most active though on rutracker.org is the Psytrance community, so the genres you mentioned might not get the latest stuff posted frequently.

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When you feel the life force drained from your body and black out for a few seconds before you regain consciousness and can’t actually move, you’re just glicthing your musscles uncontrollably and have to wait for a few minutes for the sensation to pass before you can pick yourself up and maybe have a few neurons working to clean up the mess.

Yeah, that’s what 12:01 AM feels like after NNN.

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