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Interested in Linux, FOSS, data storage systems, unfucking our society and a bit of gaming.

Nixpkgs committer.

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I'm so frustrated rn.

I have been distro hopping for about 2 weeks now, there’s always something that doesn’t work. I thought I would stick with Debian and now I haven’t been able to make my printer work in it, I think I tried in another distro and it just worked out of the box, but there’s always something that’s broken in every distro....

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As an example, users of Debian are reporting tons of KDE Plasma bugs that was already fixed, but because they are running an ancient version, they still have the bugs.

The idea is that those bug fixes would be backported as patches; old feature version + new security/bug fixes.

In practice, that’s really expensive to do, so often times bug fixes simply aren’t backported and I don’t even want to know the story of security fixes though I’d hope they do better there.

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Debian has an effective Rolling distribution through testing than can get ahead of Arch.

I wouldn’t call a distro “branch” where maintainers say “don’t use this, it’s not officially supported and may even be insecure” an “effective” distribution. I’d consider it a test bed.

Debian tends to align its release with LTS Kernel and Mesa releases so there have been times the latest stable is running newer versions than Ubuntu

  • Ubuntu LTS.

Ubuntu’s regular channel releases every 6 months, similar to Fedora or NixOS. That in itself is already a “stable” distro, just not long-time stable (LTS).
So Debian can for a short span of time after release be about as fresh as stable distros which is …kinda obvious? I would not consider a month or so every 2 years to be significant to even mention though, especially if you consider that Debian users aren’t the kind to jump onto a new release early on.

For some the priority to run software that won’t have major bugs, that is what Debian, Ubuntu LTS and RHEL offer.

That’s not the point of those distros at all. The point is to have the same features aswell as bugs for longer periods of time. This is because some functionality the user wants could depend on such bugs/unintended behaviour to be present.

The fact that huge regressions have to be weeded out more carefully before release in LTS is obvious if you know that it’d be expected for those “bugs” to remain present throughout the release’s support window.

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I was worried about possibly needing to change license.

I’d rather ask the contributors to consent to licensing their code under the new license. You don’t need the copyright in the hand of one entity to change license, it’s enough if all copyright holders agree.

The situation is made seemingly complicated by the possible need to use copylefted images

WDYM by “images”?

As in art assets? I’m not sure those would even be infectious. I think it’s possible to even use non-free assets in a GPL’d application. It may be better to treat them as such to keep the licensing simple though.

Even then, it’s usually possible to “upgrade” permissively licensed code (such as Apache 2.0) to a copyleft license as long as the original license’s conditions are still met which usually involves denoting which parts of the code is also available under the permissive license.

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I’ll let you in on a little secret: Fstab gets converted to mount units anyways.

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Why does it need to be public-facing? There may be solutions that don’t require exposing it to billions of people.

Security is always about layers. The more independent layers there are, the fewer the chances someone will break through all of them. There is no one technology that will make your hosting reasonably secure, it’s the combination of multiple.

You’ve already mentioned software ran inside an unprivileged sandbox.

There’s also:

  • Sandbox ran unprivileged inside a VM
  • VM ran inside unprivileged sandbox
  • Firewall only allowing applications to open certain ports
  • Server running all of that hosted by someone else on their network with their own abstractions
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Not really. It was publicly available information. It’s, by definition, not private.

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You gave them an irrevocable license to basically use your content in any way they see fit. Them not showing posts you deleted is just them being nice, not being obligated to do so. They could simply ignore your request or restore posts later.

You should have thought about that when you gave them that license to your content.

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If you need to set up a special dedicated subvolume, might aswell set up a partition instead; it’s just simpler.

With a swapfile you also can’t do multi-device setups which is a limitation I personally couldn’t live with.

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I haven’t used channels in years, but doesn’t that just refer to the running system, not using Nix to build projects?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.

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How do you compose Guix projects?

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Is there a court case about this already? Because that’s clearly not the intention of the GPL.

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Check your nix.conf.

Considering Gentoo

I have an old iMac that I am planning to install some flavor of Linux on and while I was looking at various distros it occurred to me that it might be a good exercise to install Gentoo on it. Other than a separate machine for documentation and downloading the necessary packages, what else should I have set up to try this? Has...

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I’d also add a build machine to the setup. Building a modern desktop system on such a machine would take days.

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I mean, comments have languages and you can filter but the automatic detection isn’t very good.

The ability to mark communities as being a certain language by default (applying to all posts and comments unless specified or detected otherwise) would be great though.

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These aren’t all versions per se but mostly variants, versions and versions of variants. For example, we have packaged the xanmod kernel which is a modified kernel optimised for desktop use but it has two variants: Main and LTS. We have packaged both.

Here are the names of all of our kernels currently to give you an idea (as a JSON list):


<span style="color:#323232;">[
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages-libre"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages-rt"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages-rt_latest"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_4_14"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_4_19"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_4_19_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_4_9"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_10"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_10_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_15"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_15_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_18"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_19"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_4"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_5_4_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_0"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_1"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_1_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_2"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_3"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_4"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_5"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_5_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_6_6"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_custom"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_custom_tinyconfig_kernel"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_latest"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_latest-libre"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_latest_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_latest_xen_dom0"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_latest_xen_dom0_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_lqx"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi0"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi02w"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi1"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi2"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi3"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rpi4"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rt_5_10"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rt_5_15"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rt_5_4"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_rt_6_1"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_testing"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_testing_bcachefs"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_xanmod"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_xanmod_latest"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_xanmod_stable"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_xen_dom0"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_xen_dom0_hardened"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"linuxPackages_zen"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">]
</span>

(Note that some of these are aliases; linuxPackages_latest is currently linuxPackages_6_6 for example.)

Each of these has the following nvidiaPackages (modulo incompatibilities):


<span style="color:#323232;">[
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"beta"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"dc"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"dc_520"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"latest"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"legacy_340"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"legacy_390"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"legacy_470"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"production"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"stable"</span><span style="color:#323232;">,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  </span><span style="color:#183691;">"vulkan_beta"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">]
</span>

(Again, some of these are aliases.)

This is useful to have because users might have hardware constraints. It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where a user might have a WiFi chip that only works with kernel ABIs < 5.4 and require the 470 nvidia driver for their old GPU. Packaging just the latest kernel and just the latest Nvidia driver would make this user unable to use their system.

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GTK 4 does not, possibly in a future version

That would be news to me. Has GTK finally managed to switch away from using actual real hardware pixels as its base unit for measurement?

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And entirely optional.

Understanding init freedom?

I’m planning to move over to Guix over NixOS, as soon as my current situation improves and possibly import a new libre respecting laptop (Star Labs is thankfully available in India). I do have a very old laptop with a Celeron processor and 4GB of RAM with Guix installed already, and what has come to my attention is that it...

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It actually is. The file gets opened by bash and bash passes the file descriptor to cat but cat is the program which instructs the kernel to write to the device.

Modern cat even does reflink copies on supported filesystems.

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Note that bcache and bcachefs are different things. The latter is extremely new and not ready for “production” yet. This post is about bcache.

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WDYM by “overheat”?

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Why is it that GrapheneOS/CalyxOS always seem to attract these kinds of people?

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I’m still in the process of optimizing stuff around Linux (e.g. media drive filesystem)

What do you mean by that?

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Minor version bumps should be mostly trivial: Change version and hash, package that into commit+PR (ckeck guidelines on that!) and that’s it most of the time.

The harder part is QA; ensuring it still works as expected. Therefore, even just testing update PRs as they come in would be a great help.
If the code change is trivial and a user of the package said it still works for them, a commiter coming along is likely convinced of the PR’s quality and just merges it.

It’s super easy to contribute to Nixpkgs in a meaningful manner :)

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You don’t.

No, seriously. Let the distros package your software; they know how to do that best.

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Clear case of DOTA.

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