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Stamets

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30s. Gay. Star Trek lover.


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Stamets,
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You’re not stupid. This federation thing is confusing to everyone when they first encounter it. Still confusing to a lot of us months later.

Don’t blame yourself buddy. We all gotta learn somehow

Stamets,
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It requires incredibly specific tech, a ship that has been designed for it, and generic engineering which is outlawed by starfleet. It is also insanely classified and had black badges posted on board.

Whether it’s a prequel or not is kinda irrelevant. Secrets are secrets.

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All the points I was about to make. Thank you Sir.

Stamets, (edited )
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Schlocky action is a matter of opinion (one I vehemently disagree with) but the crew at each others throats thing is pure nonsense. That happened in the first two episodes. From then on there were occasional disagreements but that’s sort of expected. Constantly? That’s a lie.

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Traveller sends the ship at Mach Jesus with his mind? Not a problem.

Stamets pilots the ship through the Mycelial Network using his mind? PROBLEM

Stamets,
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You have no idea how easily you just activated the “Fuck you just say, bitch?” response deep within me.

Stamets,
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For the reward of instantaneous travel, I’m sure the Federation could muddle its way through amending a 100 year old law.

Not really. The Federation, humanity most of all, are aggressively against genetic engineering. On top of it the genetic engineering requires one of those specific species of tardigrade. None were found despite Starfleet having a call put out to go looking for it. Only one was found and that was on accident.

The rest of the points don’t seem all that different than the complications we see our heroes regularly encounter exploring the galaxy.

Navigation in the other Trek shows isn’t difficult. It’s pathetically simple provided you’re not going through some weird distortion or nebula that messes with a bunch of shit. Warp also doesn’t destroy all known sentient life in the galaxy. Whether the Discovery keeps using it or not is irrelevant. At the time that the Spore Drive was known, it was not feasible to make another attempt at a spore drive. They did not have any of the originating scientists, they did not have required materials, and they were prohibited by their own law.

Janeway has no reason to be miffed given that she sat on an infinite speed drive herself, which had no downside that the doctor wouldn’t have been able to cure after it took them home.

Yep. That always made zero fucking sense to me. It’s proven you can be un-salamandered and they have an inorganic being on board who wouldn’t be affected. Why the hell don’t they just Warp 10 back to the Alpha Quadrant? Or put everyone in stasis while they Warp 10 over? They’ve done it before. Janeway doesn’t get to complain about a spore drive that would have required her to rebuild the nacelles from the ground up when she was sitting on a way home with a solution and didn’t bother.

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They’ve temporally shifted the eugenics wars so they’re no longer in the 90s but post those wars? Yeah. Genetic experimentation is still insanely illegal and taboo to all living hell.

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They chose to start there. The classified tech was something from the beginning. Same with the tech on board being specific to the ship. In no way did they “write themselves into a corner”. Also Janeway is completely irrelevant but also she would have completely understood. This is the woman who destroyed the Caretaker array and has sacrified ways home in order to benefit the majority. Do you honestly think she would ever even bat an eye if she found out about that tech? She’d probably be interested because she’s a scientist but then completely understand why it was shelved.

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Discovery also had hologram communication technology that I guess was also a secret?

No, it wasn’t secret but that also wasn’t invented by Discovery. It was invented by Voyager. Flashback. The episode where Tuvok goes back onboard the Excelsior and they start talking about holographic imagers. Those imagers were created specifically to take holographic image. You cannot take a holographic image without the ability to project a hologram. Moreover, Enterprise showed the crew interacting with holographic technology them. So if you want to complain about inconsistency of holograms in canon, you cannot point the finger so easily at Discovery.

If it was just one thing, okay, but there were such numerous inconsistencies, it was like the writers and designers did not care about trek, they were writing a sci-fi show with the trek name slapped on top.

This complaint gets trotted out constantly. It’s tired and old and frankly it’s dead. There are no violations of established canon in Star Trek Discovery, as much as everyone wants to say that it is. The only examples I’ve ever come across from people, and I use the word examples quite wrongly, are the DOTs, Burnham being Spocks sister, Holographic Tech, and the klingons looks.

It simply does not violate canon.

Stamets,
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The travel time is a huge part of what makes a Star Trek episode.

It is almost never what makes part of a Star Trek episode. Not beyond “We’re far away from people for reasons”. Besides, a single ship having it and being able to be handicapped isn’t exactly something that suddenly shattered everything in Star Trek.

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I am honestly drawing a blank on any of these contradictions you’re talking about and the only examples I’ve ever heard I have listed above. Have any?

This is coming off snarky but it’s not meant to be. I just genuinely cannot think of any. People say this constantly but no one has ever provided me examples…

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I swear to god if Thomas Riker wasn’t riddled with severe mental health issues at that point he’d have jumped on his own dick.

Picard: What the fuck?

Both Rikers, pointing at each other: Can I fuck?

Stamets,
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It’s 100% accurate, that’s the insane thing. The fact it all happens so fucking casually too blows my damn mind. I might be misremembering it a bit but it really did feel like Gramps casually was like “Oh yeah by the way, here’s a remote control so you can control the bomb in your chest. Kill yourself and fix everything.”

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I wish. Alas I am broke. No pie here. Just sadness and failed attempts to get my cat to cuddle with me for warmth.

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