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TheLurker, to lemmyshitpost in A good deal of IT work, too

Oh great, now we need to take it down from Big Ben and de-magnetise it. 🤦‍♂️

TheLurker, to asklemmy in Do you have a mantra that keeps you going through tough times?

I have one for you.

“You gotta pay your bills and it can get worse.”

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Well he was instrumental in ending the Vietnam War. He and his family fled the Nazis in 1938, then he joined the us army to fight them in 1943.

His views on defeating communism meant he also advocated for some fucked up shit. And most of his work in policy is why I’m not a fan of him.

But it’s not a binary thing. He is not the devil. Not even close to some of the people in power today.

My point has and continues to be that there is no discourse going on right now. There is just a dogpile.

I didn’t want to argue about the virtues of Kissenger, or lack. I wanted to point out the large amount of group think people are going into on THE SUBJECT.

TheLurker, to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

I mean really? How many unsubstantiated claims do you want to make, and must I really call them out?

A “mass murderer”, really, can you provide evidence other than IamRight weblinks? No you cannot, a legitimate criticism would be that he turned a blind eye to war crimes, he was not a mass murderer. That’s nothing more than hyperbola.

He was “A Jew but hated his own people”. Wow okay, yeah sure, that’s so egregious it doesn’t require rebuttal.

In any case, where did I state that I rejected criticism? I simply pointed out that Lemmy got a hardon today for dogpiling on this subject and there is no discourse, there is only group think.

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Well then please elaborate. No need to be coy about it, you seem rather confident. Unless of course you are not.

So to reiterate, name the country.

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Yes they can, hence why this unabashed vitriol is clearly just Lemmy group think.

Because while you may not agree with the fact he is closely associated with the Republicans. He did get a Nobel Peace Prize.

And while I never praised the man, the fact I called out people for bandwagoning, only for the responses to be more bandwagoning and the attempt to frame what I posted as support for the man clearly shows the level of blind indoctrination of “this bad, this good” group think going on here.

Also he was a staunch anti communist. Probably the real reason for the outpouring of hatred.

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Wow you listened to someone else’s opinion for 6 hours and provided an IamRight weblink.

You are clearly an expert.

I bet your “research” doesn’t mention his Nobel Peace Prize for helping to end America’s involvement in the Vietnam war.

See I can cherry pick facts as well.

But let me guess, your counter argument is “hurr durr globalisation propaganda”, right?

TheLurker, to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

Try to understand, that is a high voltage laser containment system. Simply turning it off would be like dropping a bomb on the city.

TheLurker, to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Yeah I’m sure he fled his country at 16 then chose to fight against the Nazis 4 years later because he was focused on “political power”. That’s fucking ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated

And again, IamRight links are bullshit. Show me published papers or edu links.

I have links that say the world leaders are Reptile Aliens. researchgate.net/…/240595423_The_Reptoid_Hypothes…

TheLurker, to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

So you didn’t rebuff my point. Only continued your line that the Nobel Peace Prize is irrelevant.

But I noticed you didn’t comment on the irrelevancy of those examples I gave you.

So tell me, why are these awards to Narges Mohammadi irrelevant? Why is it irrelevant to Nelson Mandela?

Don’t post more IamRight links about Kissenger. We established that this was a controversial award. We established that he is controversial.

I agreed.

Tell me why the award is irrelevant? Because your position is now hinging on the fact it is. This was your point was it not?

TheLurker, to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

Unlike yourself I don’t need to take other people’s words and regurgitate them. Nor do I need cheap parlour tricks like inserting what I wish to argue against as the premise of my argument.

That was kind of the point. Sorry it was too nuanced for you.

Let me simply.

You are adding no value to this discussion because your comments are irrelevant and superficial.

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

I never claimed that discourse doesn’t require rebuttal, in fact invite it. Honest debate is important.

Now I’m not saying this directly to you, but most of the replies I’m getting are not that. And most of the posts and threads about this subject are not that. It’s an echo chamber.

I just don’t want more irrelevant “lol you stupid” responses because they are pointless.

Now I’m probably going to piss you off here. But I don’t put a lot of stock in random .com and .net type links.

If they are .edu or at least well reviewed wiki article then I’ll consider them. Because I can also find links that support any argument and claim any “truth”.

As an example, the world is run by Reptile Aliens. researchgate.net/…/240595423_The_Reptoid_Hypothes…

TheLurker, to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

You are correct there. They were big words wasted on a small mind.

My apologies.

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

You literally just started the Nobel Peace Prize is irrelevant, without qualification.

And now you want to claim I’m not “answering anything”.

I have made my best effort to answer replies. But why should I do more than what you are doing?

So please, as a Swede, somehow giving you special knowledge of the subject, explain why the Nobel Peace prize is irrelevant? I mean it started in Norway, so not even in your country. 🙄

I mean was it irrelevant when the Red Cross won it twice? What about when it was won by Bertha von Suttner? What about Kofi Annan? Or Narges Mohammadi?

Or is it maybe that it is only irrelevant when it doesn’t support your position?

TheLurker, (edited ) to upliftingnews in Henry Kissinger, America’s Most Notorious War Criminal, Dies At 100

What a powerful counterpoint. I mean clearly because you do not agree I’m a bootlicker.

After all your echo chamber developed point of view is clearly correct.

I mean how could it not be? You didn’t come up with it yourself. You just looked at what everyone was saying and made a juvenile response to try and feel connected to the group.

Should we talk more about your need to feel like you have relevance in the group or are we done?

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