I mean really? How many unsubstantiated claims do you want to make, and must I really call them out?
A “mass murderer”, really, can you provide evidence other than IamRight weblinks? No you cannot, a legitimate criticism would be that he turned a blind eye to war crimes, he was not a mass murderer. That’s nothing more than hyperbola.
He was “A Jew but hated his own people”. Wow okay, yeah sure, that’s so egregious it doesn’t require rebuttal.
In any case, where did I state that I rejected criticism? I simply pointed out that Lemmy got a hardon today for dogpiling on this subject and there is no discourse, there is only group think.
You will surely get some upvotes and reinforce your view that you are right while yelling into the echo chamber with your fingers firmly pressed into your ears. 👏
I mean the fact your post was as cliche as a 16 year old could muster and still attempt to take a high ground on an intellectual premise is arrogance of the highest accord.
No I’m not, I literally outlined in my initial post that there are critics of Kissenger.
I’m outlining that the subject is a dogpile of people engaging in group think where the only valid opinion is “he badman” and there is no honest discourse.
Oh of course it is, unless you want to claim it isn’t. I already addressed this with my “hurr durr Nobel Peace Prize irrelevant because globalisation bad”.
I don’t think I’m unique at all, in fact I know I’m not. Humans are pretty predictable because of the fact we are not unique.
However your assertion that I’m contrarian because I’m not supporting the dogpile, is simply an assertion that my position is anti popular in it’s goal. And further you are assuming that the group think going on right now is the popular opinion amongst general society.
And while I would not be so bold to claim that “all of the media” is on this dogpile, I would ask if that is more a reflection of the media you choose to embrace, rather than the sentiment of general society.
Finally I’m not going to fall for the trick of claiming I’m some flakey fence sitter because I “failed to choose a side”, because I never claimed to be on Kissinger’s. I just don’t like this dogpile, it seems disingenuous to me. So someone needs to call it out.
I pointed out the huge amount of group think going on with this subject right now because the only opinions being expressed, and certainly the only being supported in this circle are those whom advocate to portray Kissenger as the devil.
I already said I’m not a fan of Kissenger and I disagree with pretty much all of his policies, but that opinion notwithstanding, the level of vitriol going on at the moment is nothing more than dogpiling using populist pandering and someone should at least call it out.
In the past few hours the feed has been full of this crap.
The irony of telling someone to “go outside and get a hobby” for posting online while conversely doing the same thing, coupled with the cliche of claiming “you’re a troll” because they have an opinion you disagree with.
Well done for double scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Can I expect more of your cutting wit in future replies? 🙄
And that is my point. Show me in my post where I praised the man?
I didn’t. I called out you lot for bandwagoning and group think. and you clearly are.
Because now you are making claims about my post which clearly do not exist.
I clearly directed this to the flood of “ding dong the wicked witch is dead” posters who know nothing about his achievements or what was LEVELLED AGAINST HIM BY IS CRITICS.
I clearly stated that he had critics. But you lot only saw that I was not jumping on the bash him bandwagon and then concluded that I’m a supporter because it went against status quo. That is the fucking definition of group think.
Personally I am not a fan of his politics or him as a person.
But for fuck sake, you lot are acting like he was the devil.
Yes they can, hence why this unabashed vitriol is clearly just Lemmy group think.
Because while you may not agree with the fact he is closely associated with the Republicans. He did get a Nobel Peace Prize.
And while I never praised the man, the fact I called out people for bandwagoning, only for the responses to be more bandwagoning and the attempt to frame what I posted as support for the man clearly shows the level of blind indoctrination of “this bad, this good” group think going on here.
Also he was a staunch anti communist. Probably the real reason for the outpouring of hatred.