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intensely_human,

Exactly. Someone demonstrated an “AI that can turn on your lights” and then had a script checking for output like {turnOnLights} and translating that to API calls

intensely_human,

Go tell a kalahari bushman to click a button, or log into your amazon account, or send an email, or literally anything you don’t place in front of him as an option.

Is your whole point just that it would be GAI if it weren’t for those darned shackles, but it’s not AGI because we give it restrictions on sending POST requests?

intensely_human, (edited )

What would a “real AGI” be able to do that an LLM cannot?

edit: again, the smartest men in the room loudly proclaiming their smartness, until someone asks them the simplest possible question about what they’re claiming

intensely_human,

Besides the detail that even Kalahari Bushmen have mobile phones now, primitive humans (or our ancestors) weren’t stupid

Oh you bastard. You actually tried to reframe my words into exactly the opposite of what I was saying.

I did not use a Kalahari Bushman as an example of a stupid person. I used a Kalahari Bushman as an example of a general intelligence as smart as you or I, who can’t press buttons or buy things on Amazon for reasons of access not capability.

I need to cool down before I read the rest of your comment. Not cool dude, trying to twist what I said into some kind of racist thing. Not cool.

intensely_human,

Sam sung something for Al I heard

intensely_human,

Of course we have “real” AI. We can literally be surprised while talking to these things.

People who claim it’s not general AI consistently, 100% of the time, fail to answer this question: what can a human mind do that these cannot?

In precise terms. You say “a human mind can understand” then I need a precise technical definition of “understand”. Because the people making this claim that “it’s not general AI” are always trying to wave their own flag of technical expertise. So, in technical terms, what can a general AI do, that an LLM cannot?

intensely_human,

How’s the argument go?

intensely_human,

Honestly it probably was a far more meaningful and fun life. Terrifying too, but super meaningful. The environment your brain evolved for. No old age horseshit, just a painful moment of death followed by your family mourning you. But no pictures or nothing, and everyone’s tripping on shrooms so you’re still there in spirit form. I’m joking as a reflex but I’m serious here. It was probably a better life overall. Seeing a worm and thinking of it as food, having no problem eating that little bastard because your stomach’s gnawing at ya. That’s life boy. Just raw dogging for all the jungle to see why the hell not. It’s prehistory baby. Anything goes.

intensely_human,

Which ones are those? What?

intensely_human,

Sorry I am trying to make a point. I think it would be better probably. Except for all the misery. The good parts would be super good. The non-awful parts would be super good.

intensely_human,

Exactly. That kind of thinking doesn’t work when you realize the “cancer” is producing situations like:

Higher life expectancies, less war, better quality of life

Do you disagree with those statements? Do you need to see evidence before you’ll believe them?

Or do you acknowledge the statements, but disagree that they justify the “cancer” of our current economic system?

What are the best steps to reduce the wealth of billionaires?

There are a myriad of news articles here on Lemmy that display the abhorrent influence billionaires have on our society (especially the US, where I reside). I consistently read comments where the posters appear hopeless and despondent of the situation, while others jokingly refer to the guillotine....

intensely_human,

Not sure which resources you’re referring to that would be at their limit such that poor people can’t get any richer.

Also no, all the times the economic system has been built around optimizing distribution, production has dropped to almost zero. Under redistribution schemes, the poor tend to die horribly.

intensely_human,

I mean if it’s not you and I are gonna be rich

intensely_human,

You people need to get your lives in order.

Says the guy with garbage in his room

intensely_human,

Found the serial killer

intensely_human,

Take it to a whole new fucking level dude: subscriptions socks delivery.

intensely_human,

[alarms screaming, red lights pulsing all over the bridge]

“Thirty seconds to impact!”

“Captain, if we don’t begin laundry now we won’t have time to fold. We could lose the entire load”

“Acknowledged, Lieutenant Worf”

“Shall I order Engineering to begin loading the machines?”

“Twenty seconds to impact!”

“Negative. Data are you still hailing them?”

“No response, sir”

“Worf. Detergent”

Yes, sir” [his hands fly across the controls] “Pod is loaded”

“Commence laundry on my mark”

“Ten seconds to impact!”

“Awaiting your order sir”

“Hold, Lieutenant”

Sir …”

“…”

“Five seconds!”

“now”

intensely_human,

Meditation practice helps with this kind of thing.

intensely_human,

Well, normal ass-kissing is the cheek. A true brown-noser, though, takes it too far.

intensely_human,

The ramifications are that the USA would lose its position as world hegemonic power.

But that’s happening anyway. I’ve heard Ray Dalio’s argument about China being the next country up in a big cycle of hegemony, and it makes a lot of sense.

The basics are that in a period of upheaval, the US currency will devalue making the US’s ability to project power weaker, creating a reduction in the monopolarity of military power, and an eruption of military violence. It will begin as proxy wars and end up as fighting between the old and new hegemon. The new hegemon’s currency will take over as the most trusted currency of international trade.

There’s a lot more detail to the whole thing, but that’s somewhat of the gist.

The US took over the hegemon role from Britain, which won it from Spain, which took it from Denmark, if I’m remembering this right. Each of those transfers of world hegemony involved that same collection of connected events:

  • old power has global military dominance
  • their currency becomes international standard
  • projected power is costly
  • somehow hyperinflation happens
  • reducing purchasing power and ability to maintain the global military presence
  • they pull back to save resources
  • new hegemon gathers influence in un-covered places
  • fighting breaks out as result of more symmetric power distribution
  • it morphs into old hegemon vs new
  • new hegemon wins
  • triggering change in dominant currency
  • fueling their expansion from “new hegemon” to “the hegemon, duh”

We all grew up in the “The US, duh” era. When that was the answer to which country was top dog, which country would adjudicate in global questions, which country’s citizenship you want your kids to have to be safe and successful, etc.

By the end of our lives (I’m speaking from age 41, so y’all’s experience varies on this), by the end of my generation’s lives, we’ll probably be in the early part of the “China, duh” part.

But we’ll have a few decades where it’s the “Well actually, it’s China now” era. Where China’s on top, not only economically but morally and culturally, as a trusted world authority and the government the aliens meet with in the sci fi movies. But that it’s noticeably new.

Just like there was basically the “Britain, duh” phase, where anyone on earth would use “The King of England” any time they wanted to conversationally refer to the most powerful man in the world. It was just known.

intensely_human,

It’s so sad you’ve had to go through life only knowing those fifteen words

intensely_human,

well it’s been that way forever and people like it, so let’s leave it”.

It’s not that weird. If you can have a state of affairs people like with zero effort, in a sense you’ve tapped into infinite utility.

intensely_human,

Rings … of rope? Buried for five hundred years and still fine?

Prehistoric jewelry reveals 9 distinct cultures across Stone Age Europe (www.livescience.com)

Tens of thousands of years ago, prehistoric humans in Europe adorned themselves with such a wide variety of beads that researchers have classified nine distinct cultural groups across the continent based on their location and distinctive styles....

intensely_human,

Would our current planet be considered one culture? What denotes the boundary of a culture? Do cultures ever split or do they only merge?

intensely_human,

How are there so many far side comics I’ve never seen? Are these being AI generated? I had all the far side books. I had multiple copies of some of them.

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