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In Canada, the Ministry of Health pays colleges to teach kids COBOL and JCL. It’s a steady job, pension, good bennies. I know a handful of people who went that route, rather than the riskier private sector.
Once you get into it you’ll wonder how you ever programmed without “divisions”! I mean honestly, just declaring variables anywhere? Who needs that. Give me a nice, defined data division any day 😌
I know some Java folks, but my sampling is biased because I meet them where I work - places that predominantly use the younger languages. Actually, I happen to know that the MoH in particular (and probably lots of other institutions) wrap their COBOL/JCL in a lot of Java, so that most devs never need to dive into the “real backend” if they want to just stay at the Java level.
Java people seem like family people. But from what I’ve observed, their job doesn’t seem any different. You can work in javascript, or python, and still insist on clocking out at 16, 1700. But I only work at startups or seat of your pants kinds of places, so I know about what I hear. 🤷
Okay that is getting up in years. I was about there when I started to get more aggressive with the salary I was asking. You could probably start on the developer I -> developer II -> senior developer career path.
Do you look at other jobs much? Do much networking? Talk to other devs about their salary? Even just grabbing a lunch with some workmates from time to time can help get you in the right mindset of recognising your worth.
Programmers are sensitive enough. All you have to do is raise your voice slightly, and they’ll think you’re yelling. You could probably make one cry just by saying their patch isn’t good, without having to resort to aggressive language.*
I don’t know the whole history, but this seems highly unnecessary, and typical Linus. Didn’t he resolve to be better a few years ago?
Maybe fair in a typical setting, but getting iffy around programmers, especially kernel maintainers. I’m convinced linux and foss in general would not exist without the autism spectrum, and who knows maybe even borderline personality disorders
It might, but it definitely hasn’t. I work in some fresh blood on the weekends, when I feel up to taking a chance. Actually, I’ve got a date to go see Dream Scenario (Nic Cage 🥰) just this week.
Miatakes were made (lemmy.world)
Not mocking cobol devs but yall are severely underpaid for keeping fintech alive (lemmy.world)
Lies! Deception! (lemmy.world)
Save thousands (lemmy.world)
Linus does not fuck around (lemmy.one)
An oldie, but a goodie
Try it (lemmy.world)
Back in my day (lemmy.zip)
Angry bald man (lemmy.world)
Laundry day (lemmy.world)
Do you understand pain? Death? Leave this place before she finds you (i.imgur.com)
A still from the TNG episode “Masks” picturing Lt cmdr Data wearing a sunburst mask of Masaka. Text reads “Mariah is Waking”