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prole,

Second the Gödel Escher Bach recommendation. Don’t really hear about that one these days.

prole,

Right. And it necessarily follows from that that all humans are therefore immoral. And if that’s the case, there is no longer any utility to the term “immoral.” It becomes a pointless exercise.

prole,

Not most people. Literally every person. Or maybe you could give me an example of a person that wouldn’t be considered immoral by your metric?

prole,

I haven’t. I’m currently at work and can’t watch. I was mostly pointing out that it becomes a pointless exercise when you realize that every human on the planet is considered immoral

prole,

Ok, but buying a cell phone isn’t the only potentially immoral choice made by people regularly, it’s just one example. Modern life is a minefield with this stuff, and I’m incapable of imagining a person in modern society who is capable of avoiding every single one of these pitfalls. Hell, it could probably be argued that even existing on this dying planet could be considered immoral or unethical. Again, maybe I’m wrong and you could think of one. Maybe some ascetic living on the street in India?

Also, I don’t really agree that awareness is even relevant. You can do immoral things without being aware that the thing you’re doing could be considered immoral. The thing itself is still immoral.

Which was kind of my point; that it’s impossible to avoid in a modern, interconnected world. I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.

prole,

That’s an incredibly pessimistic way to view the world… I think it’s more accurate to say that people have the capacity for both good and evil. I’m not sure that you can say that “most everyone you know” are immoral or evil. That’s quite the claim.

Though we would also have to explore what “immoral,” and “evil” actually mean. Am I immoral for purchasing and using a cell phone made with materials that were obtained through means that destroy lives and damage ecosystems?

The modern world is far too complex and interconnected for people to avoid doing things that could be considered immoral or unethical.

prole,

Dunno why this comment is being downvoted. Y’all must have some shit VPNs

prole, (edited )

Give it time. At this rate, we’re heading directly back to the days of “women don’t can’t wear pants”.

prole,

Yeah, no shit?

prole,

Yes and they are hypocrites.

It’s amazing the mental gymnastics Christians will do to justify their hateful beliefs.

prole,

It’s pretty close to the beginning, which is kind of telling… maybe try actually reading your holy book. You may be surprised what you find.

prole,

If you don’t believe that Jesus died and rose again for your sins, then you’re not a Christian by definition.

Also, those are not “obscure” stories. They’re the basis of all Abrahamic religions, including Christianity. In fact, the only reason there even is a NT is because they wanted to write about the “prophecies” from the OT “coming true.” You can’t have one without the other.

And, once again, Jesus is God. God did really fucked up things in the old testament, that means Jesus did really fucked up things. In the NT he supported those fucked up things that he did, and his existence itself is allegedly a fulfillment of OT prophecy. That’s why they killed him! Assuming he ever existed in the first place.

Not trying to be a dick, but as someone who was raised in an evangelical church, I know the Bible inside and out. People who pick and choose, or pretend they can be Christian and still think being gay is ok, piss me off because it’s a direct contradiction of what you claim to believe.

People like you legitimize a barbaric religion that is (once again) destroying the fabric of our society. Be honest with yourself and come to terms with the fact that your religion condones slavery, and killing people for being homosexual.

prole, (edited )

You need to look again, because it absolutely does. Or do you think, “if a man lies with another man,” was just talking about best buds sleeping in the same bed.

edit: I guess people are too lazy to look themselves for something that’s already common knowledge…

But it’s Leviticus 20:13.

And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

prole,

Ok, just pointing out that your beliefs are not consistent with your holy book.

By what criteria are you able to justify ignoring parts of the book and not others? Is it not the inerrant word of God? Didn’t Jesus say that he didn’t come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it? He made it very clear that you can’t just throw away the OT.

You seem to have good values, just don’t see the reason any kind of unscientific claims about the supernatural need to be a part of it. Just unnecessary baggage.

prole,

I’m well aware of the apologetics. Whatever mental gymnastics you have to do, friend. Maybe one day you’ll be free of the constant cognitive dissonance. It’s a huge relief.

prole,

Leviticus 20:13 is very clear. What makes you think you can just ignore that part?

prole,

What was hateful about what I said?

We’ve got Christians on the verge of genocide in the name of your God, but I’m “hateful” for pointing out that they’re just following their holy book?

prole,

The Bible contains quite a bit of hating others… God is a real piece of shit in the old testament. What did Job do to deserve what he got? Why did he tell Abraham to kill his own son for a goof? The book literally justifies slavery.

According to the book, Jesus is God, so…

prole,

In case you didn’t see the other replies, Leviticus 20:13:

And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Seems pretty black and white to me.

prole,

How is that contradictory? I didn’t say all Christians are hypocrites, just the ones that pick and choose what verses are convenient for them. Westboro Baptist seems to adhere pretty closely.

Christianity itself is a hateful ideology. Many people pick some of those hateful things when they walk past on the buffett line. Those people are both hateful and hypocritical.

I’m saying to either do it the way it says you have to do it, or stop wasting your time.

After all, God did say not to be lukewarm Christians, and if you are, he will “spew you from his mouth”

I'm currently downloading a show that is on a service to which I subscribe

I have a Galaxy Tab S7 and for a trip to Spain I downloaded some stuff to watch on the flight. When I got on the plane none of the stuff downloaded on Disney+ would play. Maybe an issue with downloading to the SD card? I don’t know, but regardless Disney offers SD card as a download destination so they should make sure it is...

prole, (edited )

Close to your 4k blu rays? Because regular blu ray discs they play on regular blu ray players don’t do 4k.

If you’re comparing to regular blu rays, you’re not comparing to 4k.

Edit: what a strange reaction to this comment… I imagine the average American would not know that they need a different DVD player for 4k DVDs.

Was just trying to be helpful by clarifying. Guess I’ll just go fuck myself.

Edit 2: is it really that hard to understand my point? Dude said that his 4k streaming looks way better than blu ray. No specification of 4k blu ray, so I just wanted to clarify for those reading the thread, that yes, 4k streaming will look better than a regular blu ray 100% of the time. No shit.

Maybe instead of being a dick with your responses, you could have just clarified your original comment to be clear that you were comparing apples to apples (4k stream to 4k blu ray). It would have taken two characters added to your original comment (“4k”), yet instead you chose to be an asshole.

And no, it’s not obvious to a lot of people.

prole,

I don’t know that they are though…

prole,

That’s amateur stuff. You gotta get into dips.

This is all I eat - dips for dinner.

prole,

Every day. I just get up at this point.

In 1969, Mr. Rogers testified before U.S. Congress to get funding for public broadcasting. Senator John Pastore is initially abrasive but is won over by Mr. Rogers' warmth and kindness. (www.youtube.com)

This 7-min video is worth the watch. You can see Mr. Rogers’ authenticity and the effect it has on the senator. The man was a national treasure.

prole, (edited )

Nowadays, he’d just get shouted down by the likes of Jim Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Greene about being “woke” for telling kids they’re special. Probably wouldn’t have even let him finish his statement.

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