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billbasher, to privacy in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data

Now will there be any sort of accountability? PII is pretty regulated in some places

far_university1990,

Get it to recite pieces of a few books, then let publishers shred them.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Accountability? For tech giants? AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

Chozo,

I'd have to imagine that this PII was made publicly-available in order for GPT to have scraped it.

Touching_Grass,

large amounts of privately identifiable information (PII)

Yea the wording is kind of ambiguous. Are they saying it’s a private phone number or the number of a ted and sons plumbing and heating

Solumbran,

Publicly available does not mean free to use.

Touching_Grass,

Think it does

RenardDesMers,
@RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml avatar

According to EU law, PII should be accessible, modifiable and deletable by the targeted persons. I don’t think ChatGPT would allow me to delete information about me found in their training data.

Touching_Grass, (edited )

ban all European IPS from using these applications

But again, is this your information as in its random individuals or is this really some company roster listing CEOs it grabbed off some third party website that none of us are actually on and its being passed off as if its regular folks information

Catoblepas,

“Just ban everyone from places with legal protections” is a hilarious solution to a PII-spitting machine, thanks for the laugh.

Touching_Grass, (edited )

You’re pretentiously laughing at region locking. That’s been around for a while. You can’t untrain these AI. This PII which has always been publicly available and seems to be an issue only now is not something they can pull out and retrain. So if its that big an issue, region lock them. Fuck em. But again this doesn’t sound like Joe blow has information available. It seems more like websites that are scraping company details which these ai then scrape.

Catoblepas,

Lol.

Chozo,

It also doesn't mean it inherently isn't free to use, either. The article doesn't say whether or not the PII in question was intended to be private or public.

Davel23,

I could leave my car with the keys in the ignition in the bad part of town. It's still not legal to steal it.

Chozo,

Again, the article doesn't say whether or not the data was intended to be public. People post their contact info online on purpose sometimes, you know. Businesses and shit. Which seems most likely to be what's happened, given that the example has a fax number.

Dran_Arcana,

If someone had some theoretical device that could x-ray, 3d image, and 3d print an exact replica of your car though, that would be legal. That’s a closer analogy.

It’s not illegal to reverse-engineer and reproduce for personal use. It is questionably legal though to sell the reproduction. However, if the car were open-source or otherwise not copyrighted/patented it probably would be legal to sell the reproduction.

TSG_Asmodeus,
Dran_Arcana,

I absolutely would

j4k3,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Irrelevant! Your car is uploading you!

Turun,

I’m curious how accurate the PII is. I can generate strings of text and numbers and say that it’s a person’s name and phone number. But that doesn’t mean it’s PII. LLMs like to hallucinate a lot.

casmael,

Well now I have to pii again - hopefully that’s not regulated where I live (in my house)

possiblylinux127, to privacy in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data

Now that’s interesting

t3rmit3, to feminism in Advertisers Don’t Want Sites Like Jezebel to Exist

I actually loved Jezebel, because it was maybe the only news site I encountered (as a dude not particularly in the know), that actually talked about women’s issues like my wife does.

People got very upset that they were opinionated, but that’s the whole point; why would you expect anything else on a site literally named Jezebel?

millie, to feminism in Advertisers Don’t Want Sites Like Jezebel to Exist

I definitely see some of the concerns that they have with this GARM stuff, but I also don’t particularly feel like I’ve seen much under the umbrella of the Gawker media group in general that I’d classify as “high-quality journalism”. There are decent articles here and there, but the standard for what qualifies to be published has always struck me as not particularly high.

I get that there’s a place for aggressive journalism, sometimes it’s exactly what’s called for. But Gawker always kind of felt like it was just aggressive for its own sake in order to attract eyeballs. Not to say that they never shed light on anything important, but a lot of the time it seemed like they were tilting at windmills just trying to keep that energy up.

Advertising really doesn’t seem like a great long-term solution for journalism’s funding, though. Nobody really wants ads, and people are increasingly able to just not interact with them. At the same time, nobody wants a paywall either.

Government funding, maybe? Some big public foundation? We certainly need something to prop journalism up financially or it’s just going to keep getting worse.

lisko, to feminism in Advertisers Don’t Want Sites Like Jezebel to Exist
@lisko@sopuli.xyz avatar

I don’t even think readers wanted it to exist

sculd, to feminism in Advertisers Don’t Want Sites Like Jezebel to Exist

The outsized influence of ad money in society is getting worse day by day

RickRussell_CA,

How do you pay for journalism?

bermuda,

Honestly I’m fine paying a subscription if the content is good. There’s one local news source that’s free that I’d be happy to pay a reasonable amount to view.

sandriver,

There are plenty of small independent publications and online journalism outlets that survive off donation drives, subscription patrons, and volunteer citizen journalists. There are even totally independent citizen journalists that report on community sources. Unfortunately, honest journalism is something that society currently has a limited carrying capacity for, but that capacity is not zero.

Vendul, to privacyguides in As YouTube Declares War on Ad Blockers, Google Sponsors Ad Blocking Conference

Looks like I won‘t be using anything Adguard anymore. I used their adblock DNS

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Sorry but Adguard was never safe as they were always in the pocket of business.

For Apple devices: Wipr Everything else: uBlock Origin

Two independent developers that have not sold out.

Etterra, to privacyguides in As YouTube Declares War on Ad Blockers, Google Sponsors Ad Blocking Conference

Left hand, what the hell is right hand doing?

Left hand: Setting up a mouse trap and baiting it with the cap to the soda bottle I just opened.

reflex, (edited ) to privacyguides in As YouTube Declares War on Ad Blockers, Google Sponsors Ad Blocking Conference
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

Well, this is just like the CIA or whatever attending Defcon. Google undoubtedly has some ulterior motive, whether it's to poach the best and brightest or to dilute the messaging, etc.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Research. Trying to kick up information on adblockers and how they function so they can kill the feature once and for all.

A 6 year old can see the contrived plan.

If devs are smart they would poison their data and use the event to troll Google. Wasting their cash.

BlackPit, to privacyguides in As YouTube Declares War on Ad Blockers, Google Sponsors Ad Blocking Conference

Google are totally into blocking ads. That was the whole catch line for selling WEI. “We’ll block all the random ads for you and keep you safe”. What they didn’t say was that they would replace the blocked ads with Google bought ads.

kakes, to privacyguides in As YouTube Declares War on Ad Blockers, Google Sponsors Ad Blocking Conference

Know thy enemy.

AI_toothbrush, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation

Its probably some watered down right to repair bill and the only reason apple supported it is so they can claim that theres already a rtr bill when someone wants a proper one.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I dunno, even Rossman was for the bill but confounded by apples support.

QuadratureSurfer,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Probably going to try to do the same thing to this bill that was done to the NY Right to Repair bill: Gavin Newsom will alter the bill slightly just before signing it that leaves a big gaping loophole for companies like Apple.

ilmagico, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation

Does the bill have any provision mandating that parts and repairs be fairly priced (with some reasonable legal definition for “fairly”)? Or is apple going to charge $2000 for a replacement iphone screen part?

Raisin8659,
@Raisin8659@monyet.cc avatar

There might be:

The bill would define the following terms: “documentation,” “electronic or appliance product,” “product,” “fair and reasonable terms,” “service dealer,” and “trade secret.”

californiaglobe.com/…/sb-244-right-to-repair/

alcamtar, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation
@alcamtar@lemmy.world avatar

Apple probably figured away to make more money this way

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

Those tools and parts are NOT going to be cheap.

ma11en,

To diagnose the fault you need a MacBook Pro Engineer Edition $10,000, Diagnostic Software $10,000 and Diagnostic Cable $10,000.

Then there’s the annual subscription to be able to buy parts , guess how much?

Lepsea,

Don’t forget the new and improved $50 Apple I Polishing Cloth 2 Pro

rmuk,

They also do a non-Pro version but it can only polish at one-tenth the speed.

pHr34kY,

Microsoft just started selling spare parts for an xbox controller.

Fixing a drifting thumbstick is 80% the cost of a new controller in parts alone. You can fix it for $5 if you go aftermarket and are happy desoldering over 10 points to remove it.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

Which, as I understand it, is kinda the point of the bills too. As in, if there is documentation and it’s reasonably easy to dis- and re-assemble, there can be a (bigger) market for spare parts.

pHr34kY,

The problem is that the thumbsticks are soldered onto the motherboard. Microsoft’s “fix” is replacing the whole motherboard, when the sticks should really be swappable.

In a Nintendo Switch, the sticks are held in by screws and connect via a ZIF connector.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

OIC, makes sense.

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar
iforgotmyinstance, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation

It’s just good business.

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