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DBT, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation

I’m really interested in why apple was so much against it before but are for it now. Maybe there’s an obvious reason, maybe not.

But I’m too tired to google this and dive further in.

saltesc,

When I worked at Apple, much of the repairing wasn’t modular. Simply device replacement at a high fixed cost. They’d then cannibalize the surrendered devices for parts or repair them cheap, then make them replacement devices for the next person to come in. It made huge money.

AProfessional,

It’s actually a very soft bill, it has no requirements to make hardware that is actually pro-consumer.

UltraMagnus0001,

the tools will probably cost as much as the device and the replacement parts will be locked, requiring Apple s expensive tools

0110010001100010,
@0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

Which is likely why they switched to supporting it. It was this or more strict requirements in the future.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s disheartening but I figured it had to be something like that. Ultimately then the danger will be thinking “great, now right to repair is fixed”, plus Apple gets to claim they were altruistic. Ugh.

donescobar,

We fixed right to repair in 2023 just like we fixed racism by electing Obama in 2008

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Can’t wait to see how you fix your healthcare system.

bronzle,

Duh, ObamaCare, what more could we ask for?

dditty,

Apple won’t be forced to change their current business practice if soldering everything to the logic board, security chips disabling devices after repairs unless unlocked with their proprietary software, etc, so it won’t affect their monopolizing of the Apple repair market. They’ll just have to offer logic boards for sale with a one pg PDF showing how to replace the board, and maybe they’ll make the security software fix more available (which would still be huge). But 99% of their users likely wouldn’t do it themselves anyway.

Either way, this is still a huge step in the right direction though!

lobut,

Apple was against it because if you have parts, you can build counterfit iPhones and stuff (read about that rationale years ago, take it with a grain of salt). Also, the repair market is quite lucrative forcing customers to buy new devices than actually fixing them. They were doing this with iPods way back in the day with irreplaceable batteries or batteries so pricey, “you may as well buy a new one”.

No idea why they changed their tune. I could only imagine their revenue streams have leaned more into software now but I’m just an idiot online, what do I know.

zurohki,

If it’s made from all genuine parts from the manufacturer, is it really a counterfeit device?

Franzia,
Raisin8659,
@Raisin8659@monyet.cc avatar

Try asking Bing. It gives multiple possible answers with references. Still have to check the references anyway because sometimes the references don’t support the statements.

sunbrrnslapper, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation

Does this mean that the ice cream machines at McDonald’s will be working? 😉

Seriously though, this is great news.

WtfEvenIsExistence,

Right to repair doesn’t mean Mcdonalds actually care about fixing it. Their food normally take like shit anyways and orders are wrong all the time. Doubt they care about maintaining a machine.

dannoffs,
@dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think I saw somewhere that their machines are always broken because they’re locked into a contract with a specific service company that sucks but that might just be McPropoganda

sunbrrnslapper,

Oh, I know. I was just being silly. But my hope springs eternal.

glittalogik,
@glittalogik@kbin.social avatar
Dups, to upliftingnews in California Lawmakers Unanimously Pass Right to Repair Legislation
@Dups@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s great

BustinJiber, to upliftingnews in Apple Formally Endorses Right to Repair Legislation After Spending Millions Fighting It

Wait, is that how you suppose to open these phones now? With some suction cups?

Chozo,

Yep, most phones these days come apart by using a heat gun to loosen up the adhesive, then you slice through the adhesive with a plastic blade, and then some strong suction cups to pull the screen/back off. Which means that you need to reapply the adhesive when you put it back together again.

It's a colossal, time-consuming pain in the ass. Especially if you don't know where the cables are that connect the screen to the board, as you can slice through them and be left with another part to replace.

MeanEYE, to upliftingnews in Apple Formally Endorses Right to Repair Legislation After Spending Millions Fighting It
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

This is just PR. Apple fights something silently then when it’s apparent they will lose they go “We endorse this”… and braindead fans will go “see Apple invented right to repair”. Then the rest gets numb trying to explain to them how Apple just says thing and rarely does anything to benefit users but naah…

TheGreenGolem,

“We innovated USB-C into our phones because we listen to our customers.”

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly that. But no one asks a question “why at 2.0 speeds or why now and not 5 years ago”. Naaah, that requires mental gymnastics of a sparrow.

regalia, to upliftingnews in Apple Formally Endorses Right to Repair Legislation After Spending Millions Fighting It

I wouldn’t call this uplifting. They’re doing so I’m bad faith as this almost entirely is focused on them.

salton,

They will find a way to make it as inconvenient and uneconomical as possible while publishing how environmentally conscious they are.

iHUNTcriminals, to upliftingnews in Apple Formally Endorses Right to Repair Legislation After Spending Millions Fighting It

Which means it’s bullshit.

Bitrot,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Apple released a self repair storefront, soon afterwards comes legislation that perfectly mirrors the way they operate their program. AFAIK Apple is still free to keep people from using old parts off eBay and such.

Martineski,
@Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.net avatar

Also you can’t stock parts from what I remember. You need to get the consumer first and only then you can order the parts when the official repair stores have their stock ready to make the 3rd part stores less attractive because of the slowness.

Chais, to upliftingnews in Apple Formally Endorses Right to Repair Legislation After Spending Millions Fighting It
@Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

Judge them by their actions, not their words. youtu.be/r0Hwb5xvBn8

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