The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion."
Are ... are they trying to say CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to people who didn't ask for them? What does this statement mean? Maybe what they meant was something like: "We do not believe women have a basic right to control their body, whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who does want them, since the majority do not.
Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿
I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.
They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.
There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”
I understand, that's why I was trying to translate their statement into reality-based words. I thought you were defending their position based on your response.
ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page.
I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.
whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."
I can’t take an article where catholics are accusing others of ideological colonization seriously. I hate cringy atheists as much as the next guy but these morons genuinely need to fuck off already. Thank god I don’t live in NA anymore, seems it’s all just going downhill.
Because it’s the California Catholics I’m going to assume it’s part of the larger trend of Latine folks saying that queer culture and feminism and other social causes in Latine communities is a result of “gringo colonialism”
Some of these psychos go from zero to death threats with so much as a mention of that blasted X, which Latine queer communities came up with first!
There’s some poor latine enbie with a flair for math stuffs living in a permanent state of traumatized horror because of these machismo lunatics.
The “religious” version of the edgy atheist is the satanic temple, who since the overturning of Roe has made abortion one of their sacred sacraments. They’re good at muddying up the laws regarding religious freedoms that some states only want to offer to christians.
As far as I can tell, they don’t really believe in Satan and are open about that. It seems that they just use the idea of Satan to point out the hypocrisy in Christian politics when they say they’re for religious freedoms.
I’m sorry, what? A pregnant woman can’t leave the state without husband’s permission? Also, what happens if she’s a single mum, or she’s not married? Or a widow or husband is deployed… I mean… what?
Other commenter was being sarcastic. But it’s the road they appear to be heading.
At the moment if a pregnant woman leaves the state they may suspect it’s for abortion purposes. Neighbours can even report if they think someone may have aborted.
In The Handmaid’s Tale, right before Gilead takes over the US, women have to have their husbands sign off on their birth control refills. Then they all get fired from their jobs and all their money in the bank gets transferred to their husbands.
I know it’s a tired cliche to keep bringing up the Handmaid’s Tale, but it just doesn’t seem that far out there anymore. Especially the part where everyone just goes along with the changes and learns to live with them. Margaret Atwood based everything in the book off of real events in wold history. So there’s that.
The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is “engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion.”
“Denying the legitimate interest of other states to protect unborn children and public health is a dangerous precedent,” the association wrote in a letter to lawmakers earlier this year.
The absolute fucking gall of christians, holy shit…
I was born into Christianity and took religious classes in school. They never talked about the weapon blessings. I learned about it on the campaign of anno 1404. I looked it up and was shocked. Conveniently avoided that huh?
I can never fully decide whether I think they’re proud of their hypocrisy and cruelty, or whether they’re just too stupid to see it. They’re such shitty people that both are distinct possibilities.
And anyway, wtf is “ideological colonization”? The language these far right crazies keep coming up with keeps getting more and more like that fake legalese that sovereign citizens use to try to sound smart.
since when did these religious nutjobs want to “protect” anyone? Guns, and car accidents are major killers of kids, when I see some action there from these liars I’ll believe they’re just honest dumb people who think zygotes are people. Until then these crocodile christians can shove it.
I would think that if they are sent by USPS then the states would not be able to legally intercept them. USPS is not responsible for enforcing state laws and there are some pretty serious laws protecting the privacy and integrity of your parcels and mail.
This is a good reminder of both why they take you out of the cockpit forever if you so much as hint that you may have any sort of mental/emotional issue, and why we need better processes in place to solve the problems that lead pilots to that breaking point.
It shouldn’t have gotten to the point where one wobbly Jenga brick in the stack kept 83+ people from dying that day.
I especially liked that they raised point like the fact that despite the fact that men earn more on average and make up more of the top CEO/Board Members spots, that those things don’t help the bottom segment of boys who are left behind in school and left unsupported.
Their program to try and pull those teens back into post secondary is helpful and I’d be excited to see their long term impacts
John Oliver did a great show on chocolate around Halloween time. It showed just how much child labor goes into producing chocolate for the world, when almost no one really spends any time thinking about where it comes from.
The CNN clip in that video, is even better: the reporter gives the guys a bar of chocolate, and they go all “ohh, it tastes so great!”. Then he asks them if they’ll give any to the children, to which the guy answer “they can have the wrappers”… at which point the reporter produces out a second bar saying “don’t worry, give them this”… still, I don’t recall the kids getting any.
I enjoyed the part with the other journalist where he was on the phone with someone who hung up when the reporter pointed out that kids could stop working if their parents made more money. Insane that he was defending that practice.
So these children are driven to work due to poverty right? So isn’t the answer to try to address that rather than to say “stop using cocoa harvested by child labor?” Like I’m totally pro-non-child-labor-cocoa, but wouldn’t the kids just get other jobs then?
their parents also work harvesting cocoa. The reason they are poor despite being working a lot is that they are not paid enough for their work… by Mars (or Nestle, Mondelez, etc)
That is why I’m buying chocolate made in Africa, rather than chocolate made from beans from Africa. That way the value is generated there and not here.
It’s not about child abuse, it’s about not making enough money so they need their children to help out. If they get a fair salary, they don’t need to exploit their kids for labor.
Yes, and this is a vestige of the destabilization of African nations by white colonial powers to have and sell enslaved people. What boggles my mind is that paying a living wage to workers would increase the price of Mars chocolate slightly if at all (corporate profits could eat the difference) but the people with the power to make those decisions are like “nope! We could get even more profits by paying less for raw materials!” so they seek and/or create even more disenfranchised workers. Doesn’t get more disenfranchised than a 5 year old that has to go to work to help the family make ends meet, but I’m sure the corporate overlords are cooking something up as we speak.
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