Even though the malicious compliance of this and the rest is fantastic, this is not really harming Reddit management much. It's harming through decreasing the signal to noise ratio of the data, that's for sure. However, usage of the environment shows increase. This is still serving their purpose.
That is kind of true, but you need to consider the alternative: Reddit was going to remove the mods and install some more obedient ones, so it’s basically “making the sub public” or “making the sub public but shittier”. Furthermore, in the long run this will cause people to get bored so they’ll engage less, and either stop using Reddit or look for an alternative sub, which fragments subs even more and males Reddit shittier in general.
Reddit is trying to clean house and go public. They've proven they'll get rid of mods already so it shouldn't be about mods playing nice to avoid being replaced (there's a good chance that's going to start happening regardless sooner or later). I'd say it's better to get the point across that reddit has a shit policies, a shit CEO, and is removing mods.
I understand that you see it as obey or be removed, but it's going to another shittier alternative next time if reddit gets it's way this time.
Reddit is already spinning it as a 6% drop that lasted less than 48 hours. They don't care what a sub is doing, as long as it's active it will be helping them in the long run.
I'd love to see a mass migration away from reddit and I think the most disruption possible should be in order. A mass walkout of mods and a some spam would do much greater damage than memes.
It's obviously complicated. I still think this "meming the issue" approach is temporary, but I don't know what whill make it stop. I do agree that the best way to say "fuck you spez" is to write it somewhere on Reddit and then leave, but I can sympathize with the mods who care depply for something they have spent so much time nurturing and shaping with zero economic benefits, who can't just let go right away. If it were me, I'd also be so pissed I'd rather destroy what I created than give it intact to someone else. Kind of toxic, but it's human behavior. Christ, I've been using Apollo for so long that I felt personally attacked by POS spez's words even though I'm just another user of the app, I can't fathom what Christian feels right now.
We'll see in a few days/weeks what comes out of this, and how the protest will evolve. For now, I'm enjoying this giant "fuck you" people are screaming at Reddit.
The goal should be to find a way to destroy the subreddit without getting removed as mods. Which should focus on killing user engagement through draconian mod rules. Like an automod that bans everyone that comments.
People laugh at the John Oliver thing for a few days, but the joke will get stale, that's when they need to stick to their guns and keep running it into the ground. I'd also suggest limiting posts to once an hour or something like that. Mods need to focus on making Reddit boring.
Auto banning people who post is an amazing idea. I'm sure you'll get people posting just to get banned after a point but some of the most popular subs will become rule following shit posts within hours. People who love the board won't post anything because they don't want to get banned and people who don't care flood with spam, or the board just dies. But it's still open, you can still post, what's the problem? Just add a few super vague rules and cite a random one lol.
I'm enjoying this aspect of the push back against reddit management. Ironically there was a great niche subreddit actually dedicated to vacuumcleaners and suggesting the best ones
I wish some of these subs would stand their ground and make the admin replace them. That would cause the admin seven bigger headaches down the line, because a lot of the mods they impose would likely not be as good, not be as committed, and would be less strict in moderation, leading to a big pain for advertisers who suddenly would see lots of content next to their ads that is very not good.
Greetings, fellow vacuum enthusiasts and members of r/WellThatSucks! Today, we have an incredible tale to share with you, one that will shed light on the origins of our subreddit and the reason behind our new rule changes. So gather 'round and prepare to embark on a whimsical journey through the story of Mr. Wells.
The Legend of Mr. Wells, the Vacuum Whisperer
Picture this: in a small, picturesque town named Suckville, nestled deep in the heart of a state called Cleanylvania, there lived a man named Mr. Wells. Now, Mr. Wells was no ordinary citizen. He had a knack for selling vacuum cleaners like no one else in the land.
With his charisma, knowledge, and passion for suction power, Mr. Wells was a force to be reckoned with in the vacuum cleaner industry. He could convince even the most skeptical customers that they absolutely needed the latest model of vacuum cleaner to keep their homes pristine. But little did he know that his life was about to take a fateful turn.
The Birth of "Well, That Sucks!"
One fateful day, as Mr. Wells was demonstrating a cutting-edge vacuum cleaner to a potential customer, disaster struck. The vacuum malfunctioned, spewing dust and debris all over the room. Mr. Wells, with a wry smile on his face, muttered the now-legendary phrase, "Well, that sucks!" Little did he realize that this seemingly mundane moment would change his life forever.
Inspired by this comedic mishap, Mr. Wells set out on a quest to create a community where people could share their own vacuum cleaner woes and mishaps. Thus, the subreddit r/WellThatSucks was born. It became a safe haven for people to commiserate, laugh, and find solace in the shared struggles of dealing with vacuum cleaners.
Rule Changes - Embracing Our Roots
With the rich history of Mr. Wells and the origins of r/WellThatSucks in mind, we've decided to make some exciting rule changes that will take our subreddit back to its vacuum-centric roots.
Rule 1: All Posts Must Be About Vacuum Cleaners
Effective immediately, we are refocusing our subreddit exclusively on the topic of vacuum cleaners. From stories of triumph over dirt and dust to unfortunate vacuuming accidents, we want to see and hear it all. Let's transform r/WellThatSucks into the ultimate hub for vacuum cleaner enthusiasts and those who appreciate the trials and tribulations of keeping their spaces clean.
Rule 2: All Comments Must Be "Wellthatsucks"
To pay homage to the iconic phrase that sparked our subreddit's creation, we're introducing a fun twist to our comment section. Starting now, every comment you make on r/WellThatSucks must consist solely of the phrase "Wellthatsucks." Let this phrase be the language that unites us, showcasing our solidarity in the face of vacuum cleaner challenges.
We believe that these rule changes will not only honor the legacy of Mr. Wells but also create a unique and engaging community experience that embraces the humor and frustration inherent in vacuum cleaner mishaps.
Join Us in the Vacuum Cleaner Revolution!
We hope you'll join us on this whimsical journey through the vacuum cleaner-filled world of r/WellThatSucks. Share your stories, photos, videos, and questions about all things vacuum cleaner-related. And remember, whether you're sharing your experiences, offering advice, or simply reacting to a post, the phrase "Wellthatsucks" will be our language of choice.
Reddit execs don't care when people post like this. They aren't browsing the sub, all they see is user engagement is back up and that's a win. They can sell that to advertisers as a win. If you showed them the page they'd think it's weird but they probably wouldn't know it have ever been any different.
The only win to be had with the sub re-opening is to post nothing at all.
Yeah but that's not what they're doing. They're doing a contrarian circlejerk that'll get boring after a few days or until the next thing happens with the steam platform that they all want to talk about. There's already a highly upvoted post there about the UI update.
Did the mods actually make any kind of decree like that, though? It sounds like they're just doing an easily ignored automod message on every post and letting the users do as they will. The post i mentioned has 7k upvotes right now and its a been up for at least one full day. https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/14bww9f/about_this_weeks_update/
The best way for the Reddit community to fight back is to leave to another community. In order for that to happen the Fediverse options have to keep growing and improving, like they are, so that people leaving feel comfortable knowing they have a good option. Reddit will be dead in 6 months.
I agree, although it can't hurt to also accelerate that process by making it unbearable for scabs and normies to use the site. It also helps by setting a precedent for any future centralized social sites (like squabbles) who may try to profit off their users or go to war with the internet. Maybe it might even make them open to the idea of federation (probably not but at the very least it'll make them leery of doing stuff like Reddit, unless they're just blatantly stupid like Huffman is).
I don't understand the rationale behind admins compelling mods to reopen the subreddits. Aren't subreddits meant to be created and managed by the Reddit community? Shouldn't it be the community's decision to either close it or continue running them?
It seems more like they just want to give mods the illusion that they can make executive decisions about the subs they run so that they'll work for free to Reddit's benefit.
A few days ago, Reddit said that they "supported communities' decision to go private" (or something like that). Now that communities actually did it, they're backtracking.
Subreddits being controlled by the mod and community is just reddit's public face. Behind closed doors, the reddit admins see themselves as the masters.
At least until the spambot onslaught begins and they start to find it incredibly difficult if not impossible to keep up with the endless flow of spam due to their lack of assistance tools and beneficial third party apps.
Subreddits being controlled by the mods and community is just reddit's public face. Behind closed doors, the reddit admins see themselves as the masters.
The rationale is: profit. Ultimately reddit relies on users for content, and they're hoping if the remove the organisers of the strike (the mods) and replace them with scabs, that the users will stop striking.
Epic sub bouta get pretty poetic. Wonder if we can pull it off with other subs. Trees being about trees, Rimjob Steve being about a man named Steve who makes vehicle rims, Piracy with actual pirates, Cats vs tech being about cats actively destroying pieces of technology etc
As if marijuanaenthusiasts is filled with enthusiasts and not just stoners. There's a big difference between a gourmand and somebody who just loves eating
It's actually amusing. It's a sub for capturing genuine, or thoughtful, or informative replies from people with nearly pornographic names, like RimJobSteve.
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